We might take a RB before some wish

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I kind of talked about this a tad in another thread.

However we might wind up taking an Ajayi or Coleman at 27 if both Gordon and Gurley are gone.

Sure most of us think those two are later first round or mostly second round backs but there is the possibility that they go ahead and take one of those two so they don't run the risk of losing one later.

Years ago in a draft there was a RB that almost everyone liked and said there was NO WAY he would fall to us in the draft. Well low and behold he did fall to us in the draft. Everyone was cheering because we needed a RB and he was the best one by a good deal. We just knew he was ours...That running back was Steven Jackson.

Instead we traded down and word is we were going to take one of the Joneses Kevin or Julius...Kevin went before our pick and we went with Julius. Now word is we passed because Bill did not like upright runners and though Jackson was one and people at valley ranch said that bill did not want to deal with the Postons (jackson's agents).

Either way we passed on the RB we should have taken and went with a lesser one that initially looked like he had something to him but quickly went out of favor while Jackson went on to have many good years.

A few years later we were again looking for a RB in the draft.

We took a couple of Defensive players in the first to help Bill change to a 3-4 defense with Ware and Spears.

In the second round we took LB Burnett when we could have had Frank Gore.

In the third round we traded down to the fourth and took Marion Barber III. Barber had some good years, got over paid by the cowboys and that was a mistake. We could have had Frank Gore.


A few years later

Many wanted Mendenhall...some wanted Chris Johnson after an electric combine/pro day performance.

We passed on both and took a part time back in Felix Jones.

Felix again flashed like Julius did at first and like Julius wound up being nothing of note. Chris Johnson had a few exceptional years including the 2k year. Mendenhall wound up being a bust as well.

Now this second example really is not a great point, as we had the choice and did not trade down but took a different back first...but I thought I would throw it in there to illustrate another of our RB woes when it comes to the draft.

2011 We pretty much got the best back In Murray and we got him in the third. This example does not help my argument. lol.


So although we could wait and get a RB later..maybe it is in our best interest to good one of the ones we really want instead of risking the wait and they not be there later.

Just something to consider if we take a RB in the first not named Gordon or Gurley.
 

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I don't care how hard Cowboyszone tries to spin it if we pick him butJay Ajayi is not a first round talent.
 

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I am not opposed to a RB with either the first or second round pick. As long as the pick is perceived value at that spot. So yes, if we stay at 27 adn Gurley or Gordon are there and we take them, that's value at that pick.

But Ajayi at 27? That smells like a reach to me.
 

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I don't care how hard Cowboyszone tries to spin it if we pick him butJay Ajayi is not a first round talent.

Neither was Fredbeard...but we took him and he sure has panned out for us.
 

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2008 was similar in that it showed an apparently deep class that went into the 2nd or 3rd round with RB talent.

We all know that we maybe picked the absolute worst back out of the top 7-8 backs that year. But besides that, we could have either traded down to the upper 2nd (and gotten Rice, Forte, or Charles) with little risk of missing out or we could have just taken Jamaal Charles with our 2nd round pick.

In that sense, it's similar to this year. If a RB you love at 27 is already gone, the is absolutely zero reason to take one at 27. trade down or just let one come to you in the 2nd or 3rd round.
 

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Neither was Fredbeard...but we took him and he sure has panned out for us.
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Still, they did at least trade down from 18 to get both Freddy AND TWill with our pick. So they upgraded that pick a good deal with a trade down....and with the little to no risk of not getting Freddy at 31.
 

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Still, they did at least trade down from 18 to get both Freddy AND TWill with our pick. So they upgraded that pick a good deal with a trade down....and with the little to no risk of not getting Freddy at 31.

27...is only a few picks away from 31.

However I think if they can trade down, they will.

We just have to hope that a good WR is there or some good OL, or possibly that one TE that has a first round grade that other teams are willing to trade up for.

I doubt there will be other positions that teams would be trading up for because if there were...we would probably take them lol.
 

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Yes they could take a back earlier than their projected draft value.

But I hope they don't.

And I don't think they will.
 

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I fully expect Gurley and Gordon to be gone and Dallas could find themselves in a position where they have to take one of the other RBs if a trade down is not possible. They are sitting at a bad place in the draft where the top talent should be gone and the second tier talent won't be around with their second round pick. Decisions, decisions.....
 

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I think there are some good option for the Cowboys depending on how players fall. Dallas can always move out of the 1st and get the extra 2nd, there should also be some very good CB at the Cowboys pick at 27. As for RB unless Gurley or Gordon is on the board I think Dallas will look to another position and still be able to address the RB position. There will be a lot of speculations about what a lot of teams may do in rd 1 of the draft but that is all it is, until they lay their cards down. No one is giving away what they will do.
 

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27...is only a few picks away from 31.

However I think if they can trade down, they will.

We just have to hope that a good WR is there or some good OL, or possibly that one TE that has a first round grade that other teams are willing to trade up for.

I doubt there will be other positions that teams would be trading up for because if there were...we would probably take them lol.

I agree.

BTW dropping from just 27 to 31 = an extra 4th and 5th rounder. Trade downs in the first have a ton of value even for a few slots.....as you know.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
 

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I think there are some good option for the Cowboys depending on how players fall. Dallas can always move out of the 1st and get the extra 2nd, there should also be some very good CB at the Cowboys pick at 27. As for RB unless Gurley or Gordon is on the board I think Dallas will look to another position and still be able to address the RB position. There will be a lot of speculations about what a lot of teams may do in rd 1 of the draft but that is all it is, until they lay their cards down. No one is giving away what they will do.

That's the way I see it.

If a choice RB isn't there at #27, they could very well select a CB.
 

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That's the way I see it.

If a choice RB isn't there at #27, they could very well select a CB.

It will be interesting to see how players fall in this draft but no matter Dallas should have some very good options out there. If there is a big run on DL players then that means a lot of the top CB should be there
 

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I kind of talked about this a tad in another thread.

However we might wind up taking an Ajayi or Coleman at 27 if both Gordon and Gurley are gone.

Sure most of us think those two are later first round or mostly second round backs but there is the possibility that they go ahead and take one of those two so they don't run the risk of losing one later.

Years ago in a draft there was a RB that almost everyone liked and said there was NO WAY he would fall to us in the draft. Well low and behold he did fall to us in the draft. Everyone was cheering because we needed a RB and he was the best one by a good deal. We just knew he was ours...That running back was Steven Jackson.

Instead we traded down and word is we were going to take one of the Joneses Kevin or Julius...Kevin went before our pick and we went with Julius. Now word is we passed because Bill did not like upright runners and though Jackson was one and people at valley ranch said that bill did not want to deal with the Postons (jackson's agents).

Either way we passed on the RB we should have taken and went with a lesser one that initially looked like he had something to him but quickly went out of favor while Jackson went on to have many good years.

A few years later we were again looking for a RB in the draft.

We took a couple of Defensive players in the first to help Bill change to a 3-4 defense with Ware and Spears.

In the second round we took LB Burnett when we could have had Frank Gore.

In the third round we traded down to the fourth and took Marion Barber III. Barber had some good years, got over paid by the cowboys and that was a mistake. We could have had Frank Gore.


A few years later

Many wanted Mendenhall...some wanted Chris Johnson after an electric combine/pro day performance.

We passed on both and took a part time back in Felix Jones.

Felix again flashed like Julius did at first and like Julius wound up being nothing of note. Chris Johnson had a few exceptional years including the 2k year. Mendenhall wound up being a bust as well.

Now this second example really is not a great point, as we had the choice and did not trade down but took a different back first...but I thought I would throw it in there to illustrate another of our RB woes when it comes to the draft.

2011 We pretty much got the best back In Murray and we got him in the third. This example does not help my argument. lol.


So although we could wait and get a RB later..maybe it is in our best interest to good one of the ones we really want instead of risking the wait and they not be there later.

Just something to consider if we take a RB in the first not named Gordon or Gurley.

#27 has to be first round talent or trade down - select CB/Marcus Peters at #27, not Jay Train or Tevin Coleman. I will be happy with MALCOM BROWN in R5. Build a defense.
 

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I kind of talked about this a tad in another thread.

However we might wind up taking an Ajayi or Coleman at 27 if both Gordon and Gurley are gone.

I think it will depend on our draft board. A couple of years ago, we wanted an offensive lineman but didn't have any valued where we were drafting so we traded down to a spot where we essentially felt we could get one at value. One went before we picked (I believe it was Pugh), which left us with Frederick.

If Gurley or Gordon go before we pick, I could easily see us trying to trade down into the early second if that is where we have a couple of other backs rated. If we have them rated around where we pick in the first, then I have no problem with Dallas taking one there because the Cowboys need to trust their process. Of course, like with Frederick, it's possible they will pass up a much higher-rated player to do it and have a lot of fans talking about how they blew it, which is always a possibility.
 

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As we have seen from the leaked draft board the cowboys rank players in tiers,it would be hard to believe that a RB will be on the top of tier 2 ,its more likely a CB like Jones.
 

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Any first round back not named "Gurley" would be a mistake in my book.

EXACTLY - NO RB other than Todd Gurley at #27. Even Melvin Gordon I would trade down into early Rd2 and pick up another pick in early R3 or R4 that could be used to select a RB.
 
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