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JJ and MBIII combined had very comparable numbers to some of the elite backs in the league. Who cares who or how many backs are carrying the rock as long as the production's there. Also, if an elite back (LJ for instance) were to go down, the team would be pretty much screwed. Teams utilizing 2 backs would be much better prepared if they were to face the same situation.

I'm not saying one's necessarily better than the other, but as long as the production's there, who cares.
 

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redfog;1417884 said:
JJ is a joke and i stand by my word.
A joke? I could live with above average or even average RB, but a Joke? :rolleyes:

Again, what RB would you want the Cowboys to draft?
 

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redfog;1417865 said:
Funny how you brought up LT, the Chargers was a joke when he first came into the league and now look at them, again great RB and defense. Last year was a fluke for them, in my opinion they were the best team in the NFL last season. By the way, Addai was a star for the Colts last year, Addai and Rhodes were a great 1 2 punch thats why the Colts won the SB.
Comparative stats for each duo from the 2006 regular season:

JJ/MBIII: 402 rushes, 1738 yards, 4.32 ypc, 18 TDs, 1 Fumble Lost

Addai/Rhodes: 413 rushes, 1722 yards, 4.17 ypc, 12 TDs, 5 Fumbles Lost

Explain to me again how Indy has "a great 1 2 punch" and Dallas doesn't.
 

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Roughneck;1417893 said:
Comparative stats for each duo from the 2006 regular season:

JJ/MBIII: 402 rushes, 1738 yards, 4.32 ypc, 18 TDs, 1 Fumble Lost

Addai/Rhodes: 413 rushes, 1722 yards, 4.17 ypc, 12 TDs, 5 Fumbles Lost

Explain to me again how Indy has "a great 1 2 punch" and Dallas doesn't.

that was a burn
 

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redfog;1417828 said:
We all know Julius Jones isnt the answer and MB3 already proved he cant carry the rock the whole game. A great team needs an elite RB, which is the most important factor on a team. A good running team with a good defense = playoffs or even Superbowl. Let's trade JJ and hopefully we can pick up a better RB in the draft. MB3 is a good change of pace back thats it.


A GREAT RB = nothing... it is the team as a whole. Look at San Diego + Great RB = nothing. Our 1-2 punch deserves a shot behind our new O-line and new coaches. One more year I say.
 

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redfog;1417828 said:
We all know Julius Jones isnt the answer and MB3 already proved he cant carry the rock the whole game. A great team needs an elite RB, which is the most important factor on a team. A good running team with a good defense = playoffs or even Superbowl. Let's trade JJ and hopefully we can pick up a better RB in the draft. MB3 is a good change of pace back thats it.


dont blame JuJo... Blame BP who decided to put wallers in place of mualers on the OL!!! JuJo is a slaser who cannot create or break tackles!


JuJo will get 1 more year from Jerry!!!
 

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redfog;1417884 said:
we'll see how idiotic this is when i dig it back up next season, quit sippin the Kool Aid, you people are in denial. JJ is a joke and i stand by my word.

yeah. he looked like a real joke in Seattle the last time he played. such a joke that he put us in a spot to win.

you need to quit thinking that every back is going to put up #s like LT or LJ
 

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dbair1967;1417859 said:
Smith had 1157yds and averaged 4.0 yds per carry...

I think most people would agree Tomlinson and L Johnson are two of the very best RB's (if not the best) in the league...how many championships have they won? who was the Colts great RB last yr? Niners great RB in 1981? Commanders 1987? Giants 1990? Packers 1996? Tampa Bay 2002? Pats 2003?

need I say more?

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Julius cannot handle the load. After two years of injury and one year of going into the tank after 150 carries you would think that people would get the picture. You can try to delude yourself into thinking that somehow an Oline or coaching are going to all of a sudden make him durable but it isnt going to happen. He is still going to get hit and as time goes by hes just going to be less durable. Hes gone after next year anyway.

Marshawn Lynch and Barber with Jones as the backup would be a dream come true. The only positions where we could draft in the first round and get significant immediate production would be at CB, S, or RB. OL, DL, LB need depth and everything else is taken care of.

With Jones you hvae a big question mark but with Lynch in the fold all of a sudden that ? goes away. Drink all the kooaid you want but if you think our RBs are just fine need only wait on Julius' latest injury.
 

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Roughneck;1417893 said:
Comparative stats for each duo from the 2006 regular season:

JJ/MBIII: 402 rushes, 1738 yards, 4.32 ypc, 18 TDs, 1 Fumble Lost

Addai/Rhodes: 413 rushes, 1722 yards, 4.17 ypc, 12 TDs, 5 Fumbles Lost

Explain to me again how Indy has "a great 1 2 punch" and Dallas doesn't.
That's all I need to see. Thanks for putting this ridiculous thread to bed.

Ownage, pure and simple.
 

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I think alot of JJ's prblems was Parcells philosophy of running the ball to a gap whether there was a hole there or not. That's why it seemed he was running into the back of his blockers. Hopefully things will change with a change in philosophy.

If not we can grab a back in next year's draft, but I think JJ will be fine.
 

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austintodallas;1417989 said:
That's all I need to see. Thanks for putting this ridiculous thread to bed.

Ownage, pure and simple.

We were 13th in yardage and YPC. You can call that ownage all you want. ill call it mediocre. Factor in how opponent safeties were always 15 or more yards deep due to our wideouts and i start calling 13th in YPC crap.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1418031 said:
We were 13th in yardage and YPC. You can call that ownage all you want. ill call it mediocre. Factor in how opponent safeties were always 15 or more yards deep due to our wideouts and i start calling 13th in YPC crap.

Exactly. Just let them sip all them Kool Aid and think our RB situation is fine and dandy. The fact that teams never stack the box against the Cowboys because of Glenn and Owens and JJ still only avg a pathetic 4.1 YPC, that's just great right?

If you people havent notice, JJ cant break a tackle to save his life, he is soft face it.
 

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redfog;1418101 said:
Exactly. Just let them sip all them Kool Aid and think our RB situation is fine and dandy. The fact that teams never stack the box against the Cowboys because of Glenn and Owens and JJ still only avg a pathetic 4.1 YPC, that's just great right?

If you people havent notice, JJ cant break a tackle to save his life, he is soft face it.

4.1 yards per carry put him as the 26th in the league in that statistic. Again i guess youre satified with mediocrity but you give Jones the ball more than 15 times in a game or more that 150 times in aseason he is not a good tailback.

Barber was at 4.8 yards per carry and that was despite going against goal line defenses at least 4 times a game. Same coaching staff, same offensive line and i dont necessarily think Barber is all that great either.
 

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Tiki Barber, Shaun Alexander - didnt they take like umm i dunno 3 years to hit the big time and really get IT?
I vote give JJ another year and see what happens if he really hasnt got IT then draft a RB next year and start again, because RB can be effective immediately if not lights out on the first day theres no need to rush to get rid of one of our premium picks from the last few years.
 

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Roughneck;1417893 said:
Comparative stats for each duo from the 2006 regular season:

JJ/MBIII: 402 rushes, 1738 yards, 4.32 ypc, 18 TDs, 1 Fumble Lost

Addai/Rhodes: 413 rushes, 1722 yards, 4.17 ypc, 12 TDs, 5 Fumbles Lost

Explain to me again how Indy has "a great 1 2 punch" and Dallas doesn't.

This stupid thread should have been closed right after this.

Why fix something if it isn't broke? You said in your first post that "hopefully" we can get an upgrade in the draft... Unless there is an obvious upgrade at RB available in a trade (which there isn't) why throw away Julius for an unknown in the draft?
 

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adamc91115;1418132 said:
This stupid thread should have been closed right after this.

Why fix something if it isn't broke? You said in your first post that "hopefully" we can get an upgrade in the draft... Unless there is an obvious upgrade at RB available in a trade (which there isn't) why throw away Julius for an unknown in the draft?

this has already been responded to.

statistically our YPC and yards were 13th. I normally consider people that dont want to upgrade mediocrity losers.
 

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ENGCowboy;1418131 said:
Tiki Barber, Shaun Alexander - didnt they take like umm i dunno 3 years to hit the big time and really get IT?
I vote give JJ another year and see what happens if he really hasnt got IT then draft a RB next year and start again, because RB can be effective immediately if not lights out on the first day theres no need to rush to get rid of one of our premium picks from the last few years.

barber just wasnt given a shot and alexander took three years to go from a being a good back to mvp. and anyway despite exceptions to the rule normally past performance is the best indicator of future performance.
 

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Mr Cowboy;1418001 said:
I think alot of JJ's prblems was Parcells philosophy of running the ball to a gap whether there was a hole there or not. That's why it seemed he was running into the back of his blockers. Hopefully things will change with a change in philosophy.

If not we can grab a back in next year's draft, but I think JJ will be fine.
I love it when Cowboys fans who ALWAYS arugue that Barry Sanders wasn't as good as Emmitt because he would dance around looking for a hole instead of just hitting the gaps want JJ to do exactly that.
 

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redfog;1417828 said:
We all know Julius Jones isnt the answer and MB3 already proved he cant carry the rock the whole game. A great team needs an elite RB, which is the most important factor on a team. A good running team with a good defense = playoffs or even Superbowl. Let's trade JJ and hopefully we can pick up a better RB in the draft. MB3 is a good change of pace back thats it.

I always thought the QB was the most important player....
 
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