We need an Oline coach badly...

[hockix]

Who do you think BP should get as a Oline coach?
We need one badly.

We need to improve the hole line or we won't have any offense next year.

A lot of people say that it is all because Adams got hurt.
But Adams didn't play that great, we just didn't have any backup for him.
Our Oline is degrading for years now since it seems the young players are not improving or busts.

We need to get at least one in FA, draft some and find an Oline coach to teach them how to play.

Do you guys have any idea who we could get for the job?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Who do you think BP should get as a Oline coach?
We need one badly.

We need to improve the hole line or we won't have any offense next year.

A lot of people say that it is all because Adams got hurt.
But Adams didn't play that great, we just didn't have any backup for him.
Our Oline is degrading for years now since it seems the young players are not improving or busts.

We need to get at least one in FA, draft some and find an Oline coach to teach them how to play.

Do you guys have any idea who we could get for the job?

I don't see how it could happen but I'd love to get Hudson Hauck (sp?) back.

 

[hockix]

I don't see how it could happen but I'd love to get Hudson Hauck (sp?) back.

That would be great but I also doubt it.

 

[cowboy4life]

What about Larry Briethol( I know I didn't spell it right) from the Packers? He was let go by the new coach, Mike McCarthy. This year notwithstanding, the Packers offensive line has consistently been one of the best over the last five years. We need to snatch this guy up.

 

[junk]

I kind of thought we might see Bill Muir, but apparently, he resigned with Tampa.

Though he wouldn't provide specifics on the deals, Gruden said Monday that offensive line coach Bill Muir and special teams coach Richard Bisaccia have signed contract extensions that will keep them with the Bucs through 2006.

http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGB01X7P9IE.html

I'd take Beightol as well. I really am not impressed with Sparano.

 

[cowboy4life]

I kind of thought we might see Bill Muir, but apparently, he resigned with Tampa.



http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGB01X7P9IE.html

I'd take Beightol as well. I really am not impressed with Sparano.

Nor am I. Beightol would be an upgrade definitely. I think however, that we will see a lot of changes in this offensive line this offseason.

 

[hockix]

What about Larry Briethol( I know I didn't spell it right) from the Packers? He was let go by the new coach, Mike McCarthy. This year notwithstanding, the Packers offensive line has consistently been one of the best over the last five years. We need to snatch this guy up.

I agree, Briethol would be an upgrade.
We can say what ever we want on the players and want to improve the line by gettings some in FA and draft.

But veterans and new guys have to learn with the time and I didn't see any improvement this years and even years past.

It is as much on the coach abilities to teach them than it is on the players abilities...

I'm also not very high on Sparano.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Two words....Mike Tice.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Something tells me that Sporano is staying. He's a hand-picked Parcells guy with only one year experience coaching the OL. Because of that I think Parrcells will cut him some slack. That seems to be the case already since the only thinkgs Parcells has pointed to for the OL woes are injuries to starters and poor play by backups; note that Sporano's coaching has never been associated with the lack of production by the backups.

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[sago1]

So according to Parcells, the poor OL play was result of injuries to starters & poor play from backups. Accept loss of Adams hurt & maybe Riveria's back injury affected his play this year, so what about Johnson & even Allen's play. The reality is that, even when Adams was playing, the OL wasn't opening any running lanes for us. Was it all Pettiti's fault? Doubt that. Like many have said, this OL has progressively gotten worse as each season passes.

Hopefully, we sign a new center & at least a good starting RT. We also need add another OT (time think about replacing Adams soon) as a backup should either starter get hurt; don't want rely on Pettiti/Colombo/Tucker if either starter goes down for season. We should also improve OG backups should Allen/Riveria get hurt & also put ourselves in position replace Allen/Riveria in 07.

FYI: Was reading Raphel Vela's blog where it mentionsed how well OT Tom Ashworth played for Pats against Broncos; pointed out only way Broncos could get pressure against Brady was to blitz--Bronco DL never touched Brady. Suggested Cowboys look at him cause he probably FA; Pats already have 3 good OTs in front of him. Ashworth was UFA signed by 49ers in 02 but picked up by Pats in 03. Started started 20+ games at RT for them until injuried earlier in year, but after missing 3 games returned to lineup but moved to LT cause of injuries at that position. Pats apparently have another stret-FA playing for them who unearthed in 02 by GM Scott Pioli (that's Parcells son-in-law). Wonder how much it would help team if we had a real GM who could evaluate talent; course Pioli is considered 1 of best in business. Anyway, Vela's thinks Ashworth won't cost a lot cause he only weights about 315-325# and is 6-4/5.

 

[aikemirv]

Well, I have a way for BP to save face, keep Sparono, and still improve our Oline.

Since Peyton will probably be leaving, and we do not have an official OC we can hire Beighthol to be the OC and he can help out with the Oline also. He was the OC in San Diego back in 1989.

BP does not want a true OC in here anyway and this would fit.

 

[hockix]

Well, I have a way for BP to save face, keep Sparono, and still improve our Oline.

Since Peyton will probably be leaving, and we do not have an official OC we can hire Beighthol to be the OC and he can help out with the Oline also. He was the OC in San Diego back in 1989.

BP does not want a true OC in here anyway and this would fit.

Not a bad idea, but I wonder if Beighthol (sp?) would like work with BP.

 

[Eskimo]

Not a bad idea, but I wonder if Beighthol (sp?) would like work with BP.

I doubt many people want to work with BP at this stage of his career. This may be part of the problem he is having rebuilding this team. The rumours over the past two years are that he drives the assistants nuts and is miserable to be around.

 

[hockix]

I doubt many people want to work with BP at this stage of his career. This may be part of the problem he is having rebuilding this team. The rumours over the past two years are that he drives the assistants nuts and is miserable to be around.

You are not encouraging you know...:

BP really thinks he has a nose to find good Olineman and grow them.
But I don't believe that.

Do you imagine that Allen was our best lineman and the fact he will be
at the probowl is a pure joke.

Even if we get some good lineman in the draft, it takes two to three years to learn the position at the NFL level. It is not like a RB who can play right away. Allen and Riviera don't even have 2 years left at a decent level for the price. And Adams has lots of talent but can't seem to be able to kick himself to play every sunday at his best.

There is a lot of work there... I'm really anxious to see what they will do in the offseason.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Guard is harder to play than Tackle, and it's harder to play on the left side than the right. So I was thinking...Would it be wise to move Larry Allen to RT? That may help him elevate his play since he's at an easier position. That would solve the RT problem, and it would also open up the left guard spot for Peterman to move into...and we can bring in a free agent to compete with him there. Thoughts....???

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[Eskimo]

You are not encouraging you know...:

I can't help it. I'm not a "BP-hater" but I'm not a rose-coloured glasses guy either. A HOF caliber coach really should have built a better set of assistants after 3 years here. Payton seems to be highly coveted but I'm not sure why. Zimmer also seems to get some looks but I've been underwhelmed by his defenses since he got the DC job.

BP really thinks he has a nose to find good Olineman and grow them.
But I don't believe that.

BP says you get 3 years to evaluate a player and that at some point a vet has to show he can still go out and do the job. He should really hold up the mirror towards himself with regards to the OL because he has invested heavily here only to fall flat on his face in 3 consecutive seasons. I have zero confidence in him rebuilding the OL until he brings in a top-notch OL coach who'll sort out the group of misfits he has assembled here - it's a damn shambles. There really is no excuse for it.

Even if we get some good lineman in the draft, it takes two to three years to learn the position at the NFL level. It is not like a RB who can play right away. Allen and Riviera don't even have 2 years left at a decent level for the price. And Adams has lots of talent but can't seem to be able to kick himself to play every sunday at his best.

There is a lot of work there... I'm really anxious to see what they will do in the offseason.

The only thing that even gives us a glimmer of hope is that Sprano may just be a really, really bad OL coach. It seemed as though every player on the OL had a bad year which argues coaching may be a major issue. If it is more due to a lack of talent, it will take a long time to for the situation to get better as we are burdened by a few bad contracts and have already invested heavily with draft picks only to get no results.