We need Jay Toia to play well

[TheMarathonContinues]

Rogers, also a seventh-rounder, and Toia are a lot alike as prospects.

Yeah but Rogers isn't a rookie. He pretty much showed what Toia's ceiling is as far as this team goes.....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He can't be worse than that Smith guy.

He for sure can lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Is he really a 7th rounder or should he have gone much higher like In the 4th like Dane had him ranked?

Dane may have had him that high but others had him as a 7th or undrafted guy.

I don't have faith in this team or front office giving him reps over Mazi or even Rogers.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yea He'd have to clearly outplay mazi and rogers to make the team

Yep.....its certainly possible that he and Rogers could battle it out but they seemed to like Rogers as well.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Wasn't Rodgers a 6th rounder?

I thought he was a 7th last year.

 

[rambo2]

Dane may have had him that high but others had him as a 7th or undrafted guy.

I don't have faith in this team or front office giving him reps over Mazi or even Rogers.

Who had him as a 7th rounder or undrafted guy?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cowboys had a late 4th/early 5th grade on him so they consider him a "steal". It's unlikely he will be big contributor this year but next year could be a different story.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jay-toia/3200544f-4920-7645-e159-c4e776b05152

Overview​

Three-year starter with the build and mentality to play nose tackle in odd or even fronts. Toia carries a girthy base and is heavy into first contact. He has the power to give good resistance against all forms of blocks that come his way but a lack of length makes him more of a space eater than a block beater. He pummels single-block protection with violent club moves for sporadic pressures but is unlikely to get home. He’ll need to improve his block recognition and fine-tune his take-on to be his best version of a two-down run defender.

Strengths​

• Brings nose tackle thickness to the field.
• Good aggression and effort level on each snap.
• Battles double-teams with a wide base and strong back leg.
• Drive power to penetrate the line versus finesse blocks.
• Opens rush edge with violent slaps and club moves.

Weaknesses​

• Average hand quickness getting into first contact.
• Lack of length allows blocks to crowd his chest.
• Could struggle with shed quickness as an NFL two-gapper.
• Unlikely to maintain gap integrity against stretch plays.
• Tethered to his starting point, limiting his production.

Thing about the Cowboys they consider everyone a steal. They thoguht Nashon Wright and Kelden Joseph were steals. So I don't know if they are liars or simply having issues with how they scout guys.

 

[rambo2]

Thing about the Cowboys they consider everyone a steal. They thoguht Nashon Wright and Kelden Joseph were steals. So I don't know if they are liars or simply having issues with how they scout guys.

How about Bland?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Who had him as a 7th rounder or undrafted guy?

Jay Toia, DT, UCLA
Height: 6-2. Weight: 342.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.
Projected Round (2025): 7-FA.
4/22/25: Toia had 25 tackles and one sack.
6/24/24: Toia was a solid defender at the point of attack for the Bruins in 2023. He totaled 28 tackles with one sack and one pass defended. The previous season he had 30 tackles. Toia is a heavy nose tackle prospect. Toia started out his collegiate career at USC before transferring to UCLA.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How about Bland?

I don't remember hearing them say "steal" with him. They said it with Carson. They said it with Diggs as well.

 

[rambo2]

BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1 had him as the 34th best DT....

34.

Jay Toia, DT, UCLA
Height: 6-2. Weight: 342.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.
Projected Round (2025): 7-FA.
4/22/25: Toia had 25 tackles and one sack.
6/24/24: Toia was a solid defender at the point of attack for the Bruins in 2023. He totaled 28 tackles with one sack and one pass defended. The previous season he had 30 tackles. Toia is a heavy nose tackle prospect. Toia started out his collegiate career at USC before transferring to UCLA.

Ban in coming?

 

[Coogiguy03]

We need him to play well. I have some hope that they will get something out of him. Dane Brugler had him ranked at 116. The Cowboys got him at 217. He should have gone somewhere in-between. Hopefully, Dane was right or close to it.

We need everyone else to play well too, glad we got this big guy I jumped for joy when the pick came in

 

[Coogiguy03]

first time we will have had that

Only to see him get easily blocked on the first play like mazi

 

[RonWashington]

I have no faith in a 7th rounder being a big part of this team or even getting the chance to. Its Mazi or bust....or Justin Rogers.

Depending on Justin Rogers who’s already been cut once and was a late rate pick himself ?

 

[thunderpimp91]

The Cowboys have guys with intriguing traits down the depth chart at DT, but we need to see a lot more out of these guys before we talk about them making an impact or even seeing the field. Guys like Toia, Akingbestote, and Rogers are just fighting to make the roster at a position where their realistically may only be 1 open spot right now.

We can talk all day about where teams had certain guys on the draft board, but either way 32 teams passed on selecting Toia until the 7th round. That doesn't mean Toia can't be an impactful player year 1, but it does mean that the odds are not in his favor.

 

[slick325]

It's a lot to ask of a 7th rounder.

I do hope he can contribute as a rotational player, but my expectations are not too lofty.

 

[pitt33]

If he is immovable it will be a plus.

Well hope he moves a little bit here and there

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Depending on Justin Rogers who’s already been cut once and was a late rate pick himself ?

Yep. Wouldn’t be the first time a guy got cut and came back to find a role here. From everything I read they like Rodgers.

 

[John813]

Even if he was taken in the 4th or 5th. It's still a bit ask for a day 3 DT to play well year 1.
If he can be in a rotation and not suck, that's a good 1st year.

 

[Acceptablename]

We need him to play well. I have some hope that they will get something out of him. Dane Brugler had him ranked at 116. The Cowboys got him at 217. He should have gone somewhere in-between. Hopefully, Dane was right or close to it.

We need him to play well. I have some hope that they will get something out of him. Dane Brugler had him ranked at 116. The Cowboys got him at 217. He should have gone somewhere in-between. Hopefully, Dane was right or close to it.

A lot of fans pet cat