Weeden Speaks

[Stash]

Probably not. Garrett has his "famous" process and if & when a big pin punctures that balloon, he's done.
Coaching is not and has not been a strength in Dallas due to the owner running things. Without
good coaching, you get myopic results and the sure "trainwreck" of disappointed hopes.

It's just going to be so tough getting him out of all of the Jones family photos. Photoshop maybe?

 

[Longboysfan]

So unless the coaches trust you implicitly, you can't freelance at all and are stuck with what's called. That does not bode well for our future at all. It's going to take quite awhile for them to put that much trust in any rookie QB we might draft. Thus, no matter how good that QB might become, he is going to look like trash running the plays that are called. Great.

So when Romo stepped in he was stuck with the Bledsoe offense.
OR
Did the coaches make quick adjustments for the Romo style.
OR
Did Romo freelance.

 

[LittleD]

It's just going to be so tough getting him out of all of the Jones family photos. Photoshop maybe?

Garrett might be a pretty good organizational GM if Jerry would ever cede some control to him but, Garrett is not a real HC and doesn't
have near the background, experience & training to handle the job. We all know that Garrett is just another Jerry "puppet" who
is parading as a HC as the years keep piling up in loserville.

 

[Doc50]

Brandon Weeden: I thought Jerry Jones' comments about me were uncalled for; 'I wanted it to work out so bad'

By SportsDayDFW.com Contact SportsDayDFW.com on Twitter: @SportsDayDFW
Former Cowboys backup quarterback Brandon Weeden joined the Ben & Skin Show on 105.3 The Fan KRLD-FM on Monday. Here are some highlights.

On if the Cowboys offense is too Romo-friendly:

"I don't really think so. Obviously Tony has the ability to change plays, get into whatever play he's comfortable with, and he's got a great system that he goes by and he's great at it. I think more than anything is just putting the gameplan together. I hadn't really played many games with Scott Linehan. It's got to be hard for him, it's got to be hard for the offensive staff to put together a plan with a backup quarterback for one, but you haven't really called plays with. The things that Tony did, as a backup guy you can't really go out there and kind of emulate it and do the same things. He has full freedom at the line of scrimmage, those kind of things, and he's been in this system for a long time. As comfortable as I was in it, I just didn't really have those freedoms to freelance like he does."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...jerry-jones-comments-uncalled-wanted-work-bad

Well, it did work out so bad.

 

[CATCH17]

Same could be said for all teams and their QB.

Denver lost Manning for several weeks.. How did they get to the Superbowl?


Lots of teams seemed ok with their backups. We could only win 1 game with all 3 of ours.

 

[CATCH17]

That "freelance" is what allows Romo to dictate to the defense. I remember when Romo watched the D jump in and out of 8 in the box, attempt to change the play while running out of play clock and finally just had to go----------the Defense was dictating to Him. It was tough hearing Kill Kill Kill play after play.

This is where Garretts "indiv players have to win their one-on-one" forces it to become only a Romo (all pro QB) friendly offense--with the ability to freelance and put the indiv players in position to succeed..................without it, it drops down to such a simple offense player on the opposing D are calling out the play flow ahead of the snap.
.

On top of that we don't mix up the playcalling on certain downs and distances.

 

[Stash]

Garrett might be a pretty good organizational GM if Jerry would ever cede some control to him but, Garrett is not a real HC and doesn't
have near the background, experience & training to handle the job. We all know that Garrett is just another Jerry "puppet" who
is parading as a HC as the years keep piling up in loserville.

I've long since tired of trying to find where Jason Garrett does fit. The Cowboys have tried to juggle things with him since they first made the mistake of hiring him as offensive coordinator. He couldn't handle that, so they gave part of the responsibility to Tony Sparano. Then they wanted to bring in Dan Reeves to help. Then they gave duties to Bill Callahan. Then they brought in Linehan. And then Garrett was going to 'focus on the defense'.

There comes a point when you have to ask yourself - "what exactly does the guy bring to the table?" And other than quoting football axioms made by actual good coaches and preaching about doing the right things, I see little that indicates that he, himself, is or will ever be, a good head coach, or anything else.

 

[Stash]

Denver lost Manning for several weeks.. How did they get to the Superbowl?


Lots of teams seemed ok with their backups. We could only win 1 game with all 3 of ours.

And even that was a boneheaded gift from Desean Jackson.

 

[Alexander]

Then they wanted to bring in Dan Reeves to help..

"They" didn't want Dan Reeves to help. Wade Phillips wanted him and Garrett cried to Jones and it was over.

 

[CATCH17]

But Jerry was shocked we didn't have more success with backups...

Im shocked as well.. No way should we have gone 1-11. I would've bet anything we could've gone 2 or 3 games under .500 without Romo.

 

[CATCH17]

I've long since tired of trying to find where Jason Garrett does fit. The Cowboys have tried to juggle things with him since they first made the mistake of hiring him as offensive coordinator. He couldn't handle that, so they gave part of the responsibility to Tony Sparano. Then they wanted to bring in Dan Reeves to help. Then they gave duties to Bill Callahan. Then they brought in Linehan. And then Garrett was going to 'focus on the defense'.

There comes a point when you have to ask yourself - "what exactly does the guy bring to the table?" And other than quoting football axioms made by actual good coaches and preaching about doing the right things, I see little that indicates that he, himself, is or will ever be, a good head coach, or anything else.

They get hypnotized by how intelligent and articulate he sounds. I'm guilty of that too at times with him.

Then Sunday always happens and I see a coaching staff that offers nothing schematically and completely gives the finger to the chess side of football.

 

[Stash]

"They" didn't want Dan Reeves to help. Wade Phillips wanted him and Garrett cried to Jones and it was over.

Right. That's what I meant, but I guess I didn't word it correctly. But when the head coach sees the issue and wants to do something about it, that says something. Even a guy who wasn't a particularly good head coach who would always 'go along to get along'. And it shows the depth of the dysfunction when Garrett can cry to Jones and have it stopped.

Maybe that's why Garrett can never complain if a player now gets preferential treatment by going to Jerry? Because he's been there, done that.

 

[Stash]

They get hypnotized by how intelligent and articulate he sounds. I'm guilty of that too at times with him.

Then Sunday always happens and I see a coaching staff that offers nothing schematically and completely gives the finger to the chess side of football.

I saw through that a long time ago. I can quote great coaches all day long too. Doesn't make me a good coach either.

Garrett out coaches no one.

 

[Idgit]

Not sure why this became another stupid bash-Garrett thread, but it's a shame, because it's a good topic.

Weeden's right. It was bad form for Jerry to take those shots at him. And I'm sure he was trying with everything he had to win. He just wasn't good enough. It happens.

And it wasn't just the QB play that did us in. The defense that couldn't get a takeaway could have stepped up and delivered multiple wins during that span, and they failed, too.

 

[CATCH17]

Not sure why this became another stupid bash-Garrett thread, but it's a shame, because it's a good topic.

Weeden's right. It was bad form for Jerry to take those shots at him. And I'm sure he was trying with everything he had to win. He just wasn't good enough. It happens.

And it wasn't just the QB play that did us in. The defense that couldn't get a takeaway could have stepped up and delivered multiple wins during that span, and they failed, too.

Because right there in the paragraph he basically says he was not put in a position to succeed.

 

[Stash]

Weeden's right. It was bad form for Jerry to take those shots at him. And I'm sure he was trying with everything he had to win. He just wasn't good enough. It happens.

He was "good enough" to manage a win with the Texans. That says something too.

And it wasn't just the QB play that did us in. The defense that couldn't get a takeaway could have stepped up and delivered multiple wins during that span, and they failed, too.

No doubt about it. That game against Atlanta immediately comes to mind. The offense seemed to be doing a fine job and then that defense just collapsed and couldn't stop anything. And setting or tying league records for fewest turnovers speaks volumes.

 

[DenCWBY]

Same could be said for all teams and their QB.

Just off the top of my head Denver comes to mind, not only with PManning this year but Tebow as well. Cincy as well. Got to reset your offense for the QB, not vice versa which was evident in our case.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Brandon Weeden: I thought Jerry Jones' comments about me were uncalled for; 'I wanted it to work out so bad'

By SportsDayDFW.com Contact SportsDayDFW.com on Twitter: @SportsDayDFW
Former Cowboys backup quarterback Brandon Weeden joined the Ben & Skin Show on 105.3 The Fan KRLD-FM on Monday. Here are some highlights.

On if the Cowboys offense is too Romo-friendly:

"I don't really think so. Obviously Tony has the ability to change plays, get into whatever play he's comfortable with, and he's got a great system that he goes by and he's great at it. I think more than anything is just putting the gameplan together. I hadn't really played many games with Scott Linehan. It's got to be hard for him, it's got to be hard for the offensive staff to put together a plan with a backup quarterback for one, but you haven't really called plays with. The things that Tony did, as a backup guy you can't really go out there and kind of emulate it and do the same things. He has full freedom at the line of scrimmage, those kind of things, and he's been in this system for a long time. As comfortable as I was in it, I just didn't really have those freedoms to freelance like he does."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...jerry-jones-comments-uncalled-wanted-work-bad

This is a nice way of bashing the offensive staff. They didnt make him feel comfortable in the system. There was a lack of communication. That's all on the staff. He has also mentioned in the past that he felt held back and they wanted him to play overly conservative. This new information all goes to that same theme. Sounds like everyone was completely unprepared for the contingency that Romo would go down for an expended period of time. It was almost as if they thought they could just play conservative with the backup QB for a few games until Romo returned. So they spend little time with the backup QB situation. Big mistake.

 

[mattjames2010]

He was "good enough" to manage a win with the Texans. That says something too.

How about a little context here?

He had 18 pass attempts in his first start with the Texans, a total of 11 passes completed. Won 16-10. Following week, Houstons defense held the Titans to 6 points. What an accomplishment.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That "freelance" is what allows Romo to dictate to the defense. I remember when Romo watched the D jump in and out of 8 in the box, attempt to change the play while running out of play clock and finally just had to go----------the Defense was dictating to Him. It was tough hearing Kill Kill Kill play after play.

This is where Garretts "indiv players have to win their one-on-one" forces it to become only a Romo (all pro QB) friendly offense--with the ability to freelance and put the indiv players in position to succeed..................without it, it drops down to such a simple offense player on the opposing D are calling out the play flow ahead of the snap.
.

Like everyone has been telling the Garrett people all along. This offense hums because of Tony Romo and Tony romo only. Nothing to do with Jason Garrett or his offensive genius or anything close to it. Its NOT Garretts offense, its Romo offense. Without Romo this coaching staff has trouble scoring TD's. With the same QB's other teams dont. It isnt rocket science.