Week 1 vs Jets Notes/Prediction

Don Corleone;4088034 said:
Yes, all UDFA quarterbacks have that luxury while poor little first round draft picks get the millions and have to start on day 1. UDFA with the luxury of sitting back and watching? How about the stress of knowing you could be cut on any given day? You call that a luxury???

When your at the bottom of the roster you get virtually no reps at all.

So for sure it was no luxury. Jets had hard knocks last year; they should realize this fact.
 
jimmyxx7;4088011 said:
But why was he a UDFA in the first place? Because he wasn't that good. He needed the developmental time. Now to his credit, he's become a very good quarterback since he went undrafted in 2003, but please don't compare the stats of a guy who sat and watched for two-and-a-half years with those of a guy who had to play right away. It's not even remotely fair.

This is not a debatable point. It's been proved a hundred times over: quarterbacks who can sit and watch for a year or two tend to have drastically better NFL debuts than those that are forced to start right away.

He's very good. Elite? Probably not but certainly top 10. He's in the 7-10 slots.

Yes it has worked and not worked. Just depends on the player and the coaching staff. Especially for drafted QBs that the coaching staff puts in quality time working with the QB. How much are they going to work with an UDFA 3rd string QB? You are kidding yourself if you think Romo and Sanchez received the same amount of quality coaching their first two years.

Romo took over the second half of game 7 in his 3rd season. Going by your logic Sanchez will have enough experience to put up similar numbers in 7 weeks. We will see if he makes the big jump. They certainly given him enough at the skill positions and OL.
 
kmd24;4088023 said:
It wasn't that he wasn't good. He was a 3x All-American, the player of the year (Walter Payton award winner) in Div I-AA his senior year. He reportedly had the highest velocity among quarterbacks at the combine. He's always had a lightning fast release.

Sure he had a lot to learn, but he wasn't a fifth overall pick from a national championship contender featuring 11 players drafted in the 2009 NFL draft.

Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, and Matt Ryan all started as rookies, and all compare much more favorably to Romo than Sanchez. Sanchez just isn't very good.
Stafford has played in 13 games, and has a completion % of 54. 19-21 tds/ints..

Bradford is wildly inconsistent...especially the last few games.

Sanchez gets bashed, because he had some very atrocious games, but people ignore when he actually does something well, because they love to go back to the awful performances. He doesn't put up stellar stats, but can pull a game out of his rear end.
 
kmd24;4088023 said:
It wasn't that he wasn't good. He was a 3x All-American, the player of the year (Walter Payton award winner) in Div I-AA his senior year.

Yeah, while playing against a bunch of future accountants and plumbers. If anyone thought he was any good, he'd have been drafted.

He reportedly had the highest velocity among quarterbacks at the combine. He's always had a lightning fast release.
And still, no one drafted him. What does that tell you?

Sure he had a lot to learn, but he wasn't a fifth overall pick from a national championship contender featuring 11 players drafted in the 2009 NFL draft.
Point is, Mark Sanchez was a lot closer to being able to start an NFL game at 22 than was Tony Romo. That's why Romo sat on the bench behind mediocre quarterbacks like Testaverde and Bledsoe.

Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, and Matt Ryan all started as rookies, and all compare much more favorably to Romo than Sanchez. Sanchez just isn't very good.
Stafford was as bad as Sanchez as a rookie; Bradford had a YPA under 6.0. Ryan had a very good rookie year that, in terms of playmaking, he really hasn't been able to replicate.
 
PTonyN;4088039 said:
Stafford has played in 13 games, and has a completion % of 54. 19-21 tds/ints..

Bradford is wildly inconsistent...especially the last few games.

Sanchez gets bashed, because he had some very atrocious games, but people ignore when he actually does something well, because they love to go back to the awful performances. He doesn't put up stellar stats, but can pull a game out of his rear end.

Sanchez 54% 29 TD - 33 Int's with Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Dustin Keller as options and a beast offensive line.
 
RastaRocket;4088046 said:
Sanchez 54% 29 TD - 33 Int's with Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Dustin Keller as options and a beast offensive line.
he has had awful games. cannot deny that. every qb does. stats dont always tell the story though.
 
jimmyxx7;4088043 said:
Yeah, while playing against a bunch of future accountants and plumbers. If anyone thought he was any good, he'd have been drafted.

Miles Austin, Tony Romo.

Whats your point?
 
RastaRocket;4088046 said:
Sanchez 54% 29 TD - 33 Int's with Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Dustin Keller as options and a beast offensive line.
He's only been in the league two years and has guided the Jets to the AFCCG both times. He improved his TD / INT ratio last year and I expect further improvement this year.
 
jimmyxx7;4088043 said:
And still, no one drafted him. What does that tell you?.

It tells me that talent evaluation at the QB position is difficult and not an exact science.

By the way, Romo didn't actually participate in the combine like most QBs do. He was assigned to throw the ball to prospective WRs. It was a token invite to do something at the combine, not to participate as a draftable QB prospect.
 
PTonyN;4088039 said:
Stafford has played in 13 games, and has a completion % of 54. 19-21 tds/ints..

Bradford is wildly inconsistent...especially the last few games.

Sanchez gets bashed, because he had some very atrocious games, but people ignore when he actually does something well, because they love to go back to the awful performances. He doesn't put up stellar stats, but can pull a game out of his rear end.

That is what many on the Jets board are doing with Romo. Ironic no?
 
Jets2878;4088053 said:
He's only been in the league two years and has guided the Jets to the AFCCG both times. He improved his TD / INT ratio last year and I expect further improvement this year.

I would say he more hindered them from the super bowl. Defense guided the Jets that far.
 
viman96;4088055 said:
That is what many on the Jets board are doing with Romo. Ironic no?
they are idiots than, if they dont think Romo is good. Also Romo has taken so much abuse..I'm sure he is ready to go insane this year.
 
RastaRocket;4088046 said:
Sanchez 54% 29 TD - 33 Int's with Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Dustin Keller as options and a beast offensive line.

Right, and Aikman had 56.6% 11 TD-18 INT in 1990 with Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek, and a HOF coach.

Point?
 
jimmyxx7;4088059 said:
Right, and Aikman had 56.6% 11 TD-18 INT in 1990 with Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek, and a HOF coach.

Point?

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92, 93, 95

Good luck Marky Mark.
 
Jets2878;4088053 said:
He's only been in the league two years and has guided the Jets to the AFCCG both times. He improved his TD / INT ratio last year and I expect further improvement this year.

Well you certainly hope so, with his draft status, number of starts, and amount of money invested in the guy.
 
I will say this about Sanchez. I like his play in the 4th qtr. He has the mental toughness to not quit which I really like.
 
PTonyN;4088058 said:
they are idiots than, if they dont think Romo is good. Also Romo has taken so much abuse..I'm sure he is ready to go insane this year.

The abuse comes with the star on the helmet. He wouldn't get it if he played for the Bills for all these years. The QB of the Dallas Cowboys always has the spotlight, whether he has talent or not. It is the nature of the position.

People that bag on Romo only watch highlight reels. I myself love the game, and don't mind spending an afternoon or evening watching Mark Sanchez play QB for the Jets. I don't form opinions on what others tell me. Seems most fans do though. In reality, most of the talking heads don't really know much, and I've probably been watching and studying the game longer than they have.
 
jimmyxx7;4088067 said:
Nice non-response.

I mean, if he is the next Aikman then I'm happy for you guys. Best of luck to Sanchez. He's gonna need it lmao.
 
jimmyxx7;4088043 said:
And still, no one drafted him. What does that tell you?
It tells me that drafting is not an exact science because there are intangible things that cannot be measured like heart and football intelligence. Pray, what does it tell you?
 

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