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Here's what we've lost to injury from last year's team-record setting passing offense.

Sam Hurd - 19 receptions, 314 yards, 1 TD
Miles Austin - 5 receptions, 76 yards

24 receptions and about 400 yards. That's 1.5 receptions per game and 24 yards.

We've added in Bennett and Jones, probably upgrades (with regards to receiving) at their positions over what we had there last year. With that, and whatever WR we opt to keep (Amendola, Lowber, Jefferson), does anyone REALLY think that our offense will be hampered or limited much by the loss of Hurd and Austin, for only a few games?

Also, hook thread is a hook. There's your morning perspective. Go have some coffee and a nice poo.
 

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You disappoint me. I thought you were better than this. How could you forget Fasano's 14 receptions, 143 yards, 1 TD and ability to fall down every time he touched the ball?
 

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Thats kind of a simplestic approach. The real danger with having your 3,4 and 5 recievers down is that you are one injury away from having Danny Amendola as your starter opposite Patrick Crayton.

If that doesn't strike fear into you, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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superpunk;2219578 said:
Here's what we've lost to injury from last year's team-record setting passing offense.

Sam Hurd - 19 receptions, 314 yards, 1 TD
Miles Austin - 5 receptions, 76 yards

24 receptions and about 400 yards. That's 1.5 receptions per game and 24 yards.

We've added in Bennett and Jones, probably upgrades (with regards to receiving) at their positions over what we had there last year. With that, and whatever WR we opt to keep (Amendola, Lowber, Jefferson), does anyone REALLY think that our offense will be hampered or limited much by the loss of Hurd and Austin, for only a few games?

Also, hook thread is a hook. There's your morning perspective. Go have some coffee and a nice poo.


Put down the beer.
 

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superpunk;2219578 said:
Here's what we've lost to injury from last year's team-record setting passing offense.

Sam Hurd - 19 receptions, 314 yards, 1 TD
Miles Austin - 5 receptions, 76 yards

24 receptions and about 400 yards. That's 1.5 receptions per game and 24 yards.

We've added in Bennett and Jones, probably upgrades (with regards to receiving) at their positions over what we had there last year. With that, and whatever WR we opt to keep (Amendola, Lowber, Jefferson), does anyone REALLY think that our offense will be hampered or limited much by the loss of Hurd and Austin, for only a few games?

Also, hook thread is a hook. There's your morning perspective. Go have some coffee and a nice poo.

I think because of the teams we are playing we could be hampered. I would think they want the ability to open it up and play up tempo on cleveland and keep those big guys either breathing hard or on the sideline.

The eagles game now scares me to death if austin, stanbach or hurd are not back. They have 3 above average corners and we currently have two legitimate nfl wr. They will take owens and witten out of the game and make us beat them running and we have never been able to do that. I mean yeah, they will use curtis, bennet, jones and witten a ton but curtis, bennet and jones make me nervous against a team like philly.

Its just unfortunate really. I wanted to see us make a track meet out of the cleveland game and I am not sure we can do that yet. Hopefully hurd can fight through whatever the severity of the injury is.

no need to panic but it does create some gameday roster and in game planning issues.
 

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CowboyWay;2219600 said:
Thats kind of a simplestic approach. The real danger with having your 3,4 and 5 recievers down is that you are one injury away from having Danny Amendola as your starter opposite Patrick Crayton.

If that doesn't strike fear into you, I don't know what to tell you.


And you'd really be any more comfortable with Austin, Hurd, or Stanback having to start opposite Crayton for a significant amount of time?

It doesn't matter if the 3rd guy is Austin, Hurd, Horn, or Clayton if the scenerio is Owens down for a significant amount of time then it's over anyway.
 

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CowboyWay;2219600 said:
Thats kind of a simplestic approach. The real danger with having your 3,4 and 5 recievers down is that you are one injury away from having Danny Amendola as your starter opposite Patrick Crayton.

If that doesn't strike fear into you, I don't know what to tell you.
Well, tell me something else, because I don't see how it's a whole lot worse than it was before. These guys aren't out for the season, and no matter what, if Owens goes down our offense is in a big hole - Hurd and Austin or not.

I don't think taking stock of reality with "what if" scenarios is a particularly fruitful way to go through life.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2219604 said:
And you'd really be any more comfortable with Austin, Hurd, or Stanback having to start opposite Crayton for a significant amount of time?

It doesn't matter if the 3rd guy is Austin, Hurd, Horn, or Clayton if the scenerio is Owens down for a significant amount of time then it's over anyway.

Granted, TO goes down, and we will be hurting, but the scenario is still scary if you say Amendola is one injury away to Patrick Crayton from starting across from TO.

Austin and Hurd are high quality depth players in this league. Not superstars, Amendola is a practice squad player who might make the team because of the injuries to the other 3 guys.
 

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superpunk;2219613 said:
Well, tell me something else, because I don't see how it's a whole lot worse than it was before. These guys aren't out for the season, and no matter what, if Owens goes down our offense is in a big hole - Hurd and Austin or not.

I don't think taking stock of reality with "what if" scenarios is a particularly fruitful way to go through life.


*nods* Exactly.
 

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CowboyWay;2219623 said:
Granted, TO goes down, and we will be hurting, but the scenario is still scary if you say Amendola is one injury away to Patrick Crayton from starting across from TO.

Austin and Hurd are high quality depth players in this league. Not superstars, Amendola is a practice squad player who might make the team because of the injuries to the other 3 guys.


I agree that in the long run you'd certainly rather put Austin or Hurd over there, which we'll be able to do that in the next couple of weeks with Austin and Hurd probably won't be far behind.

But unless you're just going to go around worrying that TO is going down, week one, to a serious injury then this panic mode is a bit to quick and early, I think.
 

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superpunk;2219613 said:
I don't think taking stock of reality with "what if" scenarios is a particularly fruitful way to go through life.

Entire rosters in the NFL are built on "what if" scenarios.
 

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theebs;2219603 said:
The eagles game now scares me to death if austin, stanbach or hurd are not back.
Huh? Stanback hasn't proven he's anymore of an NFL receiver than Jefferson or Amendola have.
 

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CowboyWay;2219631 said:
Entire rosters in the NFL are built on "what if" scenarios.
They're built on "Let's get the best players we can" scenarios.

"What if" scenarios are really just "No duh" scenarios. As in "If TO goes down and we have to start Austin/Hurd/Stanback we're in a world of trouble."

No duh.

However that line of thinking is pretty irrelevant and pointless, tbh.

This effects our 3+wide sets. If you take it to the next step and worry about what could possibly happen if Owens sprains his kidney, then you're just aggravating yourself for aggravation's sake.
 

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Double Trouble;2219638 said:
Huh? Stanback hasn't proven he's anymore of an NFL receiver than Jefferson or Amendola have.

Yes I know, but he can at least return kicks and do something because he knows the playbook and is at least a year down the road.

and for what it is worth, personally I dont think anything of stanbach. If they were to cut him saturday I wouldnt be upset at all. He doesnt look like a wr yet to me. He is another year or two away.

I dont think they will and probably shouldnt because he just needs time but if someone who could play wr was hanging around and was young enough to come in and learn, I wouldnt be mad about it.
 

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superpunk;2219646 said:
They're built on "Let's get the best players we can" scenarios.

"What if" scenarios are really just "No duh" scenarios. As in "If TO goes down and we have to start Austin/Hurd/Stanback we're in a world of trouble."

No duh.

However that line of thinking is pretty irrelevant and pointless, tbh.

This effects our 3+wide sets. If you take it to the next step and worry about what could possibly happen if Owens sprains his kidney, then you're just aggravating yourself for aggravation's sake.

There is no denying that if TO goes down we are in alot of trouble, I don't think anyone here would debate otherwise. But to put up some ridiculous stats of Hurd and Austin from last year and say "no big deal", is pretty ignorant. Austin was outstanding in the preseason before he got hurt. We are down to TO and Crayton. If you don't think there are meetings being held at this very minute in Valley Ranch about this "what if" scenario you're kidding yourself.

This very roster is chalked full of what if scenarios.
What if.....we can keep TO happy (when we first signed him)
What if.....Tony Romo can one day play in this league (when we first signed him)
What if.....we take a chance on Tank (after Ferguson went down)
What if.....we can sign pacman and keep him on the straight and narrow (after pathetic corner play last year by Reeves and N. Jones)
 

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CowboyWay;2219666 said:
There is no denying that if TO goes down we are in alot of trouble, I don't think anyone here would debate otherwise. But to put up some ridiculous stats of Hurd and Austin from last year and say "no big deal", is pretty ignorant. Austin was outstanding in the preseason before he got hurt. We are down to TO and Crayton. If you don't think there are meetings being held at this very minute in Valley Ranch about this "what if" scenario you're kidding yourself.

It's their job to adjust and plan for the future. I'm sure they realize just as much as I do that there is simply no point in worrying about what might possibly someday just maybe happen to Owens, particularly when they know both backups will be back in a few weeks.

Excercise in futility. If people are just dying to have something to wring their hands over, though, I guess this is nearly as good as the fact that our starting LG is injured.

This very roster is chalked full of what if scenarios.
What if.....we can keep TO happy (when we first signed him)
What if.....Tony Romo can one day play in this league (when we first signed him)
What if.....we take a chance on Tank (after Ferguson went down)
What if.....we can sign pacman and keep him on the straight and narrow (after pathetic corner play last year by Reeves and N. Jones)
I guess I should have clarified what if injury scenarios, or other things that are completely out of anyone's control. I figured that was implied.
 

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Hurd and Austins #'s last year are not a good indication of their potential impact this year.
 
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