West Point Army Ranger Confronts APD Police Officer

[CowboyMcCoy]

I think I posted a few months back. A guy in our town was a designated driver stopped at a gas station on New Years morning. He witnessed cops brutalizing a woman from San Antonio and asked why they were brutalizing her. APD levied bogus charges against him. The guy, who I've met, was a West Point grad with a degree from Stanford. He just doesn't look the part (like so many other talented people in this area). Anyway, he would probably be looking at a more serious situation. But he posted an ad on Craigslist asking if anyone witnessed the incident. Indeed, someone FILMED the whole thing.

Story below.

http://www.kvue.com/home/Two-APD-officers-accused-of-abuse-during-New-Years-arrest-136709358.html

Buehler, like many others nowadays is media-savy. So he's been working hard to educate the public about the situation. Here, he confronts our police chief, Art Acevedo--a reject from LA.

http://digitaltexan.net/2012/austin...-art-acevedo-video/article26887/#.T0KtanP5acd

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Honestly, I saw nothing in either video which makes me think that the police crossed the line. Maybe the news story on there edited it or something. I dunno.

 

[JustDezIt]

Honestly, I saw nothing in either video which makes me think that the police crossed the line. Maybe the news story on there edited it or something. I dunno.

if the guy didnt spit in the cops face, then the video shows him being assaulted by a police officer for trying to document his wrongdoings. If you touch a cop its assault, so the same should go for them. They aren' allowed to just grab people because they are doin something they don't like. It is his right to document a civil servant doing his job in a public place.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Honestly, I saw nothing in either video which makes me think that the police crossed the line. Maybe the news story on there edited it or something. I dunno.

They charged him for assaulting an officer when he did nothing. He faces 2-10 years in prison. I doubt he'll sniff a day of it. The 2nd video was more of a call out than anything. At least he knows how to use the media.

 

[DasTex]

This is just another case of someone pushing police past their limits. Police, as a whole have a verystressful job. Then you get these people "it's my right, what are you going to do", and sometimes it pushes them beyond their limits.

This case:

You have a girl getting arrested for allegedly being drunk. She was not cooperating with the police, she is freaking out about getting arrested and starts to scream. This guys decides to start taking photos. The police ask him to stop, he gives the "it's my right speech" and who knows what else. It likely upset the officer - he's just like anyone else when it comes to being a human. Then the rest occurs...

Did he spit in his face? Who knows.

Did he resist going to the ground when the officer was trying to take him there? Sure looks like it.

Basically the guy could have stayed back, took whatever photos he wanted and made sure nothing happened to this poor "drunk" girl - who gives a wonder story in another part of this story. Then nothing happens, and this is a non-story. Instead, he gets right up in the action, taking his photos and making likely comments to the officer when he is asked to stop.

Now as far as jail time, there is no way he's going to jail. That's just to stir up news.

People need to respect police officers and majority of this officer abuse won't happen. Pretty simple to me.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

This is just another case of someone pushing police past their limits. Police, as a whole have a verystressful job. Then you get these people "it's my right, what are you going to do", and sometimes it pushes them beyond their limits.

This case:

You have a girl getting arrested for allegedly being drunk. She was not cooperating with the police, she is freaking out about getting arrested and starts to scream. This guys decides to start taking photos. The police ask him to stop, he gives the "it's my right speech" and who knows what else. It likely upset the officer - he's just like anyone else when it comes to being a human. Then the rest occurs...

Did he spit in his face? Who knows.

Did he resist going to the ground when the officer was trying to take him there? Sure looks like it.

Basically the guy could have stayed back, took whatever photos he wanted and made sure nothing happened to this poor "drunk" girl - who gives a wonder story in another part of this story. Then nothing happens, and this is a non-story. Instead, he gets right up in the action, taking his photos and making likely comments to the officer when he is asked to stop.

Now as far as jail time, there is no way he's going to jail. That's just to stir up news.

People need to respect police officers and majority of this officer abuse won't happen. Pretty simple to me.

They didn't have a reason to take him down and they never told him he was under arrest, to my understanding. Also, it is his right. Police abusing/manhandling women isn't the way to go about your job. Do that and it takes a man to stand up to the officer who is doing the manhandling. If nothing else, we should know that it's our right to film and take photos of what the police do.

That's my take on it. The cops were/are out of line here. They should be fired and never see another police force again, in my opinion.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

They charged him for assaulting an officer when he did nothing. He faces 2-10 years in prison. I doubt he'll sniff a day of it. The 2nd video was more of a call out than anything. At least he knows how to use the media.

allegedly did nothing

the video doesn't show if spit or not.

Fuzz are probably at fault but the soldier is probably not as innocent as he is making himself out to be.

 

[Bigdog]

They charged him for assaulting an officer when he did nothing. He faces 2-10 years in prison. I doubt he'll sniff a day of it. The 2nd video was more of a call out than anything. At least he knows how to use the media.

If he did spit in the officer face or any where on the body, it can be consider an assault. I highly doubt that he did this considering his background as it is one of the ultimate disrespect one can do to another. He has every right to question the tactics of the police and what I saw in the video he did not do anything wrong and it doesn't look like he was interfering with them.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

allegedly did nothing

the video doesn't show if spit or not.

Fuzz are probably at fault but the soldier is probably not as innocent as he is making himself out to be.

You know, I've talked to this guy. One thing I believe, he did not spit in anyone's face. He's got a wired demeanor. He's sort of jerky when he talks and he's not the sort of guy who would spit in a cops face. If he spit in the cops face, it could be seen at a later date.

I do believe the fuzz are at fault. They were from the beginning. It looks like the guy was trying to be a good samaritan. That's what he's trained to do, protect people. The police, manhandling that woman while handcuffed, didn't want their picture taken.

So they falsified a story thinking no one would ever turn up the video--where we know one thing: an assault on a police officer never took place.

At least nothing I can see. If that happens to be the case, I'll eat my words. But digital enhancement, et cetera, could be something the state could use to prove its case.

The dude has a nitwit of a lawyer, I think. He's sort of a high strung type and I think he's gotten lucky a bit in his career. But nevertheless, I think Buehler walks a free man.

 

[DasTex]

They didn't have a reason to take him down and they never told him he was under arrest, to my understanding. Also, it is his right. Police abusing/manhandling women isn't the way to go about your job. Do that and it takes a man to stand up to the officer who is doing the manhandling. If nothing else, we should know that it's our right to film and take photos of what the police do.

That's my take on it. The cops were/are out of line here. They should be fired and never see another police force again, in my opinion.

The girl wouldn't get out of her car. What are they suppose to do?

 

[vta]

People need to stop playing the voice of conscience game with police. Interfering with their job then playing the victim afterward is nothing more than incitement and aggravating any situation. Where it would simply have ended up with a drunk driver getting penalized as she should have been, this guy is looking to have two men lose their jobs. Nonsense.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

If he did spit in the officer face or any where on the body, it can be consider an assault. I highly doubt that he did this considering his background as it is one of the ultimate disrespect one can do to another. He has every right to question the tactics of the police and what I saw in the video he did not do anything wrong and it doesn't look like he was interfering with them.

This is true. He's proud to be part of the military and to me it looked like he was doing what he's trained to do. He also did not seem drunk. The cops gave him a breathalizer and later said it was broken...

I wonder why they said that.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

People need to stop playing the voice of conscience game with police. Interfering with their job then playing the victim afterward is nothing more than incitement and aggravating any situation. Where it would simply have ended up with a drunk driver getting penalized as she should have been, this guy is looking to have two men lose their jobs. Nonsense.

How many Aggies does it take to brutalize a drunken, handcuffed woman?

 

[DasTex]

This is true. He's proud to be part of the military and to me it looked like he was doing what he's trained to do. He also did not seem drunk. The cops gave him a breathalizer and later said it was broken...

I wonder why they said that.

Being trained to do? I'm sorry, but this isn't war and this poor drunk girl wasn't getting abused.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

The girl wouldn't get out of her car. What are they suppose to do?

Once she's cuffed, call for back up and pick her up in a humane way. Not like some animal. So if she doesn't get out of her car, they can assault her.

I don't get that line of thinking.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Being trained to do? I'm sorry, but this isn't war and this poor drunk girl wasn't getting abused.

What is it they call it in the police and/or military, protect (and serve)?

He was only doing his duty as a soldier and a citizen, imo.

 

[DasTex]

Once she's cuffed, call for back up and pick her up in a humane way. Not like some animal. So if she doesn't get out of her car, they can assault her.

I don't get that line of thinking.

This girl was not getting assaulted. Now if you want to use the word "assaulted", in the lightest sense possible - then sure. She was cuffed, was not cooperating with the police, likely kicking and screaming as they were trying to humanly pick her up.....give me a break

Have you ever tried to pick someone up in a "humane way" that was kicking and screaming - girl, guy,- whomever? It's not going to happen majority of the time.

 

[gmoney112]

Welcome to 2012 where your "rights" are a figment of your own imagination. Your future and well-being is entirely in the hands of a cop with a high school diploma who couldn't get paid to utilize any sort of "career" and more than likely has anger management issues. Sleep well, comrade.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Welcome to 2012 where your "rights" are a figment of your own imagination. Your future and well-being is entirely in the hands of a cop with a high school diploma who couldn't get paid to utilize any sort of "career" and more than likely has anger management issues. Sleep well, comrade.

This would be a nice closing argument, actually. :laugh2:

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

This girl was not getting assaulted. Now if you want to use the word "assaulted", in the lightest sense possible - then sure. She was cuffed, was not cooperating with the police, likely kicking and screaming as they were trying to humanly pick her up.....give me a break

Have you ever tried to pick someone up in a "humane way" that was kicking and screaming - girl, guy,- whomever? It's not going to happen majority of the time.

I'm sorry, I'm talking about training. And the police use the same definition. Meaning if it causes pain, it's assault. Yet they get away with it. I've seen people hog-tied and thrown on their face. It's just not something we should be so accepting of in our society, imo.