What approach will McCarthy use with Dak?

[Bullflop]

I think we'll see more short, quick types of passes to our RBs and slot receivers. There will be an occasional deep throw to other receivers but not with much frequency. We'll still be basically a ground control offense with younger RBs to hopefully enliven things on offense. Dak will likely be consistently encouraged to rid himself of the ball expeditiously to allow defenses less time to adjust.

 

[bigE79]

Dak was correct in his last press conference when he stated it's sink or swim for him.
This team has made proper moves so far this offseason and it's up to # 4 to bring it home or he will be sent home.
GL Dak and I really mean that!
P.S. Personally I believe a leopard doesn't change its colors and Dak will once again be the main reason we don't get the job done once again!

But he says he learns from his mistakes and will eliminate them,then throw 2 pics the next game,I don't care who calls the plays if the guy continues to choke at the worst times..the guy can't read a defense to save his life.

 

[FTWayne]

Nothing will change, a couple more runs that the quarterback can change out of. I predict we don't see much of a difference. This change for changing is just a ploy to say we made a change. I hope not

 

[bigE79]

Bro lol again if Rush was the QB the last 6 we wouldnt beat a team that can score 20 so you wouldn't be able to lose in any round because there would be no rounds.

And in the end,the so called more talented QB threw 2 stupid pics that lost us the playoff game,2 years in a row the more talented QB choked.

 

[Cowboys5217]

I think we'll see more short, quick types of passes to our RBs and slot receivers. There will be an occasional deep throw to other receivers but not with much frequency. We'll still be basically a ground control offense with younger RBs to hopefully enliven things on offense. Dak will likely be consistently encouraged to rid himself of the ball expeditiously to allow defenses less time to adjust.

This could be a problem though because Dak was most likely to throw picks on simple check downs. DBs got the book on him and are breaking on those gimme routes before Dak even finishes his throwing motion. I'm not sure that can be fixed.

 

[CowboyFrog]

And in the end,the so called more talented QB threw 2 stupid pics that lost us the playoff game,2 years in a row the more talented QB choked.

I agree, but that doesnt change who Cooper Rush is...

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I think we'll see more short, quick types of passes to our RBs and slot receivers. There will be an occasional deep throw to other receivers but not with much frequency. We'll still be basically a ground control offense with younger RBs to hopefully enliven things on offense. Dak will likely be consistently encouraged to rid himself of the ball expeditiously to allow defenses less time to adjust.

Our most BORING offense will continue at a greater pace of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..............................

 

[conner01]

Sounds exactly like how Kellen had Rush leading the offense.
Dak ain't into that.

Dak is into what Dak is told to do. Exactly the way he ran the offense early in his career, thus you had many less turnovers. We now have an even better defense so it’s even more important to play a complimentary offense. Run effectively, pass more on early downs when success is easier, move the chains and use play action for your big chunks. Chunk plays are easier when you run well and use short and safe passing game to suck the defense up, then attack deep

 

[75boyz]

Dak is into what Dak is told to do. Exactly the way he ran the offense early in his career, thus you had many less turnovers. We now have an even better defense so it’s even more important to play a complimentary offense. Run effectively, pass more on early downs when success is easier, move the chains and use play action for your big chunks. Chunk plays are easier when you run well and use short and safe passing game to suck the defense up, then attack deep

That was Linehan's philosophy too and it gave us Dak's best year. His rookie year. He's never been near as good since.
And that offense got Linehan fired.

So now,
we've come full circle back to wanting Linehan's and Dak's 2016 rookie offense.

All that's missing is 2016 Zeke, 2016 Dak, that dominant 2016 o-line and Linehan as the playcaller.

I'm sure McCarthy can copycat it though.

 

[conner01]

That was Linehan's philosophy too and it gave us Dak's best year. His rookie year. He's never been near as good since.
And that offense got Linehan fired.

So now,
we've come full circle back to wanting Linehan's and Dak's 2016 rookie offense.

All that's missing is 2016 Zeke, 2016 Dak, that dominant 2016 o-line and Linehan as the playcaller.

I'm sure McCarthy can copycat it though.

I think Moore took too many risks. If your D is bad you have to, but with a good D there’s no reason to take risks at that rate. The shorter the pass, in general the less the risk. That’s why RB’s have such high catch percentages
But if you effectively run and that’s not to say run more than pass, but have succes with the run and the short passing game you force the opponent defense to play closer which opens up play action shots down the field that aren’t as risky. It also opens up double moves that get extra seperation
Moore scheme wasn’t as bad as his playcalling to me. Rarely did you have a play designed to open up something with the next play. It was more like blindly pointing at plays and calling them. The easiest down to pass on is first down but he locked in many times to running too much on first down, and if he did pass it was almost always followed by a run. You have to keep the D guessing so they have to play both the run and pass

 

[Redline360]

MM needs to get Dak to use his legs more. Was a better quarterback. Pure pocket Dak is average at best.

 

[75boyz]

I think Moore took too many risks. If your D is bad you have to, but with a good D there’s no reason to take risks at that rate. The shorter the pass, in general the less the risk. That’s why RB’s have such high catch percentages
But if you effectively run and that’s not to say run more than pass, but have succes with the run and the short passing game you force the opponent defense to play closer which opens up play action shots down the field that aren’t as risky. It also opens up double moves that get extra seperation
Moore scheme wasn’t as bad as his playcalling to me. Rarely did you have a play designed to open up something with the next play. It was more like blindly pointing at plays and calling them. The easiest down to pass on is first down but he locked in many times to running too much on first down, and if he did pass it was almost always followed by a run. You have to keep the D guessing so they have to play both the run and pass

I'm aware of all this but am in a wait and see as to how MM will fix Dak. He is saying he will use an effective run game to control TOP and rest his defense.
This sounds good. Anything that limits Daks passing attempts is good.
It's just I have a hard time believing a coach who has coached for near 30 years in the NFL using a West Coast Offense and never having what was some dynamic and effective run game. His reputation is built on a passing offense.
Dak needs to pass less.
McCarthy's background is not run game although this is what he is telling the public because he just fired his OC for supposedly passing too much.

Something ain't jiving here.

 

[Big D]

MM has already stated he wants to be more effective and efficient in the ground game. Less points, but control the clock, cut down on sloppy turnovers, rely on the D, play complimentary football etc…

Based on that direction, here is how I expect Dak to be affected:

1. Less pass attempts per game. I think the target for his attempts will ideally fall between 20-30 attempts per game.

2. More play action pass attempts. This is both MM’s and Schottenheimer’s philosophy and Dak is most effective when the PA passing game is clicking.

3. Increase in short yardage passing game… 25-30% offensive change points to some WCO wrinkles so I expect more screens, RB routes, and quick hitting plays that serve to set up RAC and act as extensions to the running game

4. I expect a significant decrease in turnovers. Between the changes to the offense, addition of more weapons, and Dak’s focus on reducing mistakes, I think we see 7 or fewer INTs in 2023

5. Efficiency comes at a cost of production in the passing game. I’d be shocked if Dak threw for more than 4000 yards and 25 TDs next year. The focus will be on the running game and a dynamic defense

As it should be.

 

[Bullflop]

This could be a problem though because Dak was most likely to throw picks on simple check downs. DBs got the book on him and are breaking on those gimme routes before Dak even finishes his throwing motion. I'm not sure that can be fixed.

Let's give both he and McCarthy a fair shot at proving it'll work out for us and them, as well.

There will be changes; hopefully they'll make the best of it, as they try to make things work.

 

[conner01]

I'm aware of all this but am in a wait and see as to how MM will fix Dak. He is saying he will use an effective run game to control TOP and rest his defense.
This sounds good. Anything that limits Daks passing attempts is good.
It's just I have a hard time believing a coach who has coached for near 30 years in the NFL using a West Coast Offense and never having what was some dynamic and effective run game. His reputation is built on a passing offense.
Dak needs to pass less.
McCarthy's background is not run game although this is what he is telling the public because he just fired his OC for supposedly passing too much.

Something ain't jiving here.

I think MM leaned on Rodgers and threw the ball more. Maybe he’s learned the run game is the passing games best friend

 

[75boyz]

I think MM leaned on Rodgers and threw the ball more. Maybe he’s learned the run game is the passing games best friend

I guess. I hope hes at least got a clue on how to effectively run the ball. And most definitely not lean on Dak and throw the ball more.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I guess. I hope hes at least got a clue on how to effectively run the ball. And most definitely not lean on Dak and throw the ball more.

 

[silvernblu]

Will it be a calm approach with Dak, or will Mike have a sense of urgency with Dak, knowing what's on the line. His head coaching job, and Dak possibly losing out on money next season?

Being that Mike will call plays, he will have a closer relationship with him, and will have more access to him. I think Dak can/will benefit from having someone such as Mike get with him during games. What approach do you feel will best work? Do you think Dak is capable of handling this and being successful. Often times during the season, we saw Dak make a mistake, come to the sideline and nothing was said it appeared. Please give your thoughts......

Dak. Run the play that’s called. Do not change at the line. Period.