What are our biggest needs?

[conner01]

OL. We may or may not draft one in round one, but I’m not confident in our depth nor that McGovern or Steele are the answer.

We could use a tackle, guard or center
You literally could find a way to use any good oline player you get
Steele I think will be solid at RT but we don’t have a swing tackle so a tackle could work
MCGovern is not the answer at guard so a guard would work
We could upgrade center and that would work
Oline is generally the safest position to draft also
I wouldn’t be shocked if 24 was a oline guy and I wouldn’t be shocked if we double dipped on the oline with top 3 round picks
This team is better when they can run the football and our WR talent is going down so more pass protection gives guys more time to get open

 

[Captain-Crash]

elite offensive line, elite running backs, elite wide receivers and tight ends, elite defensive line, linebackers, cornerbacks, elite safeties, elite kickers, and elite special team players. nothing much ask jimmy johnson.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

For those that follow more closely than me, what are the biggest needs (and pls no comments like starting QB, starting RB, those we are what we are good or bad) - thx

I assume...

Offense:
Starting LG and depth
Swing tackle/depth
TE and WR depth. (Assuming here they believe Lamb is a #1)

Defense:
Staring left DE (unless they think fowler is it, I assume they will use Parsons like last year)
1T (Every year it seems or am I missing someone)?
Starting LB/Depth (Will Jabril Cox be a starter?, LVE?)
S (Kearse? Are they planning Hooker and Wilson)?

Thx again

a real GM....get one and all of the above is fixed.

 

[john van brocklin]

For those that follow more closely than me, what are the biggest needs (and pls no comments like starting QB, starting RB, those we are what we are good or bad) - thx

I assume...

Offense:
Starting LG and depth
Swing tackle/depth
TE and WR depth. (Assuming here they believe Lamb is a #1)

Defense:
Staring left DE (unless they think fowler is it, I assume they will use Parsons like last year)
1T (Every year it seems or am I missing someone)?
Starting LB/Depth (Will Jabril Cox be a starter?, LVE?)
S (Kearse? Are they planning Hooker and Wilson)?

Thx again

Need to replace Gregory with a quality pass rusher and Left Guard.

 

[john van brocklin]

Gm

 

[john van brocklin]

GM

 

[Tussinman]

Round 1 either a center or LG that will start day 1

Round 2 linebacker that will immediately start

Round 3 OT and DE has alot of depth this draft so maybe one of those (might be limited this year but plan on a large role in 2023).

 

[vlad]

On offense I will say O line is tops. Even before losing Williams and releasing Collins, the O line needed some work.

On defense I would say LB. Especially is they are going to have Parsons getting after the QB more.

Can't really argue with any of the positions you mentioned. Just my opinions.

Thanks man. LB did seem like a weak spot for sure, and if you are moving parsons around, and without kearse and Neal at the moment.

really going Cox can step in

 

[Captain-Crash]

Thanks man. LB did seem like a weak spot for sure, and if you are moving parsons around, and without kearse and Neal at the moment.

really going Cox can step in

yep, hopefully, Cox has been doing a lot of studying film while rehabbing.

 

[vlad]

There are no absolute must have positions other than maybe LG and Kicker/Punter.
- The only projected starter that was a true fail last season was McGovern at LG.

They need to add a couple of elite impact players regardless of position.

Obviously several projected starters could be upgraded from OK to really good, but almost all of them are at least serviceable starters.

Starters
DLaw
Gallimore
Odighi with Bohanna play on some run downs
Fowler/Armstrong
Micah Parsons
LVE & Jabril Cox (They normally only play 2 LBs with one of them being Parsons)
Hooker
Wilson
Diggs
Brown
Joseph & Lewis

LT Tyron
LG McGovern
OC Biadasz
RG Martin
RT Steele
TE Schultz
WR Lamb
WR Gallup
WR the free agent signing
RB Pollard & Fat Boy

Thx for the reply. Will be curious where those impact players will come from, if they do.

I assume Washington will be WR3.

 

[vlad]

You came to the right man. Right you are, govnor.

1. O lineman
2. O lineman
3. Backup QB
4. Most massive run stuffer in the draft/FA
5. WR
6. LB opposite Micah or LB to relieve Micah if he does DE duty
7. CB
8. Safety
9. RB
10. HC

There you have it, old boy. The Supreme Truth.

That’s a lot! But here we are lol

 

[vlad]

For someone who stated "For those that follow more closely than me" - you listed the four positions on both offense and defense most CZers are concerned about -- along with detailed observations on 6 of those 8 spots.

Those seem pretty obvious, I mean like someone mentioned center, I didn’t of. I don’t really know if lb is in the roster. I don’t particularly consider lamb a wr1.

man this forum is tough.

 

[vlad]

LG
LB
S
Speedy WR
Swing Tackle
Center competition

I don’t really have a handle on how serviceable our center is, but I do like the thought of speed where we can all over

 

[vlad]

Not sure now but I will know it when I see it.

In the draft they need DL, OL, TE, WR, LB and secondary and P and PK. Don't need a long snapper.

Yeah fair, lol, long snapper covered!

 

[cheyennes]

OL/DL

 

[quickccc]

Sometimes I like to look at the roster from the perspective of 'what if all projects starters remain 100% healthy for the season'.
- Under that scenario, pick 1 position on offense and 1 on defense to add an elite player from the draft.

Envision the 2021 roster with:
- Equivalent of a prime years Witten at TE.
- Equivalent of a prime years Earl Thomas at FS.

If I could add 1 more it would be a prime years Travis Frederick.
- They could manage with anybody playing LG if aligned between Frederick and a healthy Tyron Smith.

Fowler has similar pass rush ability to Gregory but Gregory is a far superior run defender.
- They can mange with Armstrong on run downs and Fowler on passing downs.
- Parsons pass rush ability adding in makes that much more palatable.
- Depth is an issue if DLaw has more injury issues, but if everybody is reasonably healthy, there OK at DE.

At WR Gallup and Lamb are legit quality starters but they need to draft and develop another elite WR because they're hard to obtain otherwise.

Fans always clamor for a 330+ NT type but in the modern era the 2-down run defenders just don't play a high percentage of snaps unless their very elite players.
- Washington's DT pair (without the mental meltdowns) are the example of modern era DTs that are stout against the run but that can also rush the passer.
- Jonathan Allen (6-3, 300) and Daron Payne (6-3, 320).
- Are there any DT over 330 other than Vita Vea that play more than 50% of snaps?
- Danny Shelton only exceeded 50% once in his 7 year career.
- Note: To anyone looking at site like ProFootballReference, the snap percentage are based on games played.
- i.e. If a player only plays 1 game in a season, but played 90% of the snaps in that game, then they'll be listed at 90% for that year.

Thanks for sharing..

- I don’t think (hope not) we are done yet at DE per NFL draft, ..and of course that's according to value of our draft board, if we do that will have to be very likely 1st rd, as pass rushers go off board very quickly, and it becomes even more compromised and difficult at No # 24 overall.
I’m entrusting in McClay to draft by value and not to Taco Charlton reach again.
That equivalent to CeeDee Lamb over Chassion Le’ Von (Jax)

- i get the vibe that Dlaw is gonna get hurt and there isn’t a Gregory opposite, and Parsons is not an every down DE. Fowler seems more as a bridge player to
someone else, someone new. i have my doubts about Z-Smith coming here per dollar price.

- Pierre Paul ? If he can agree to a price and role, and no medical issues, i have no qualms about him coming here if Quinn& McClay convinced.
How much was shoulder issue, how much is decline would remain to be seen.

 

[quickccc]

Sometimes I like to look at the roster from the perspective of 'what if all projects starters remain 100% healthy for the season'.
- Under that scenario, pick 1 position on offense and 1 on defense to add an elite player from the draft.

Envision the 2021 roster with:
- Equivalent of a prime years Witten at TE.
- Equivalent of a prime years Earl Thomas at FS.

If I could add 1 more it would be a prime years Travis Frederick.
- They could manage with anybody playing LG if aligned between Frederick and a healthy Tyron Smith.

Fowler has similar pass rush ability to Gregory but Gregory is a far superior run defender.
- They can mange with Armstrong on run downs and Fowler on passing downs.
- Parsons pass rush ability adding in makes that much more palatable.
- Depth is an issue if DLaw has more injury issues, but if everybody is reasonably healthy, there OK at DE.

At WR Gallup and Lamb are legit quality starters but they need to draft and develop another elite WR because they're hard to obtain otherwise.

Fans always clamor for a 330+ NT type but in the modern era the 2-down run defenders just don't play a high percentage of snaps unless their very elite players.
- Washington's DT pair (without the mental meltdowns) are the example of modern era DTs that are stout against the run but that can also rush the passer.
- Jonathan Allen (6-3, 300) and Daron Payne (6-3, 320).
- Are there any DT over 330 other than Vita Vea that play more than 50% of snaps?
- Danny Shelton only exceeded 50% once in his 7 year career.
- Note: To anyone looking at site like ProFootballReference, the snap percentage are based on games played.
- i.e. If a player only plays 1 game in a season, but played 90% of the snaps in that game, then they'll be listed at 90% for that year.

- You made mentioned of Washington DT Allen-Payne (no not the New Jack city actor) ,..but those were also both former No.1 picks.
And Payne is that 320+ pounder.

- Bucs have mammoth Vita but Suh is around 315-320 area and Gholston is only 280
- Ravens employ 340 lb Brandon Williams..

- Rams had Ashawn Robinson (330+) and Niners have 320+ lbs Javon Kinlaw in the middle

- Saints have ranked among top run defense last 2 years, but they don't have a 320-330 girthers,
i think it's gonna be instances with player personnel, that's more about playing bigger, stronger and tougher than what size suggests.

- Regardless of weight, girth, under 300 lbs or amount of snaps, scheme, ...my question would be - Do those DL guys stop the run, when they are in there ?

 

[xwalker]

- You made mentioned of Washington DT Allen-Payne (no not the New Jack city actor) ,..but those were also both former No.1 picks.
And Payne is that 320+ pounder.

- Bucs have mammoth Vita but Suh is around 315-320 area and Gholston is only 280
- Ravens employ 340 lb Brandon Williams..

- Rams had Ashawn Robinson (330+) and Niners have 320+ lbs Javon Kinlaw in the middle

- Saints have ranked among top run defense last 2 years, but they don't have a 320-330 girthers,
i think it's gonna be instances with player personnel, that's more about playing bigger, stronger and tougher than what size suggests.

- Regardless of weight, girth, under 300 lbs or amount of snaps, scheme, ...my question would be - Do those DL guys stop the run, when they are in there ?

I mentioned that Vita Vea was one of very few to play more than 50% of snaps.

A'Shawn Robinson played 44% of snaps.

Brandon Williams average 53% in the 13 game he played but that's below 50% of the total possible snaps for the season.

Run stoppers can be signed in free agency for very reasonable contracts.

Malcom Brown (6-2, 320) is a starter for the Saints and played on a 3-year, 15M contract.

Danny Shelton played on a 1-year, 1M contract in 2021.

Jonathan Allen and Daron Payne played 70% and 76% of snaps in 2021.
- Allen had 9 sacks and Payne had 4.5 sacks.

 

[KJJ]

Quarterback

 

[Bigrandrn]

New GM