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What are the Cowboys exactly?
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An emotional Bill Parcells stood in front of the media on Nov. 23, 2007 after the Cowboys beat Carolina, 24-20, to improve to 8-3 and tie them with Philadelphia, Carolina and St. Louis for the best record in the NFC.

"You can't call them losers anymore," Parcells said. "They're something else now. I'm happy for them. This was by far the best win I've had in Dallas. I'm proud of them."

Parcells didn't necessarily call the Cowboys winners after that game either, but he thought that was a pivotal moment for that team's growth.

On Monday, Wade Phillips said he was convinced the Cowboys would bounce back because, "I think we have a winning team. If you have a bunch of winners, I think you're going to bounce back from losses."

After a few questions CBS11's Steve Dennis had an interesting interaction with Phillips. Click on the link for the back-and-forth


Dennis: I'm sorry, you said you have a team of winners. How do you know that, what have they won?

Phillips: "Well they've won eight games, they've lost four. That's where we are. I don't think we have a team of losers."

Dennis: But I mean the question around here is this particular group of guys, the core group, hasn't won anything.

Phillips: "We haven't, no. We haven't lost anything either."

Dennis: But you're willing to call them winners?

Phillips: "I think they're winners. They've won eight games already. You wouldn't call 8-4 a winning team? I don't know why you wouldn't."

Dennis: Well, if the regular season is what you're interested in, sure.

Phillips: "Well the regular season will get you to the postseason. That's how you get there. You play all 16 games, whatever your record is gets you there or doesn't. Right now we've played 12."
 

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Quarterback Coach;3127122 said:
Jerry has what he wanted and now I want to go punch something.

thats very true, all goes back to jerry jones;
 

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Well I for one have to agree with WP here. You are what you are used to say BP and our record shows we're 8-4 and on 1st place in our division. If the season ended today we'd be in the playoffs. I don't think the team has quit or that now that december is here we're gonna roll over and play dead. The Chargers and The Saints are beatable. Even the Commanders (if the had a semi-good kicker) could've beaten the Saints yesterday. It's tough to win on the road specially New York. So now let's focus on the Chargers at home where we have a 4-1 record so far this year.
 

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I would really love to see JJ just once sit in on one of the these Coaches Conf calls with the local media. He definitely would not take the crap that Steve Dennis was attempting to dish out re "winners". Jerry would have gone for the guys jugular...

Gotta feel for Wade some, I really hope we are able to pull this through.
 

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rags747;3127205 said:
I would really love to see JJ just once sit in on one of the these Coaches Conf calls with the local media. He definitely would not take the crap that Steve Dennis was attempting to dish out re "winners". Jerry would have gone for the guys jugular...

Gotta feel for Wade some, I really hope we are able to pull this through.

not to me, to me wade is a whus;

even one player said today in a text that the sos same old stuff after wade talked and bus ride back from loss to new york

i dont mind wade as the defensive coordinator, but cant stand him as a head coach; He just isnt a winner!

The problem, as it always has been with Phillips, is that December and January escape him as if he were trying to grab a cold wind with his hands. Tack on the loss to the Giants and Phillips is now 3-7 in December and January since inheriting a supremely talented team from Bill Parcells in 2007. That includes a playoff loss to the Giants two seasons ago and four consecutive road losses.

That trend was the same in Phillips’ previous head-coaching stops in Denver (two years) and Buffalo (three). At those two places, Phillips was a combined 35-25 before December, 10-12 afterward. That includes two previous playoff losses in Buffalo, most notably the Music City Miracle loss when Phillips inexplicably started backup quarterback Rob Johnson(notes) instead of Doug Flutie.

It’s as if Phillips is like a great starting pitcher in the closing years of a career, when six or seven innings is as much as he can muster before turning the game over to the pen. Sadly, you can’t call in Mike Shanahan or Bill Cowher the way the Yankees used to have Mariano Rivera finish up for Roger Clemens.

Phillips is what he is, an amiable man who happens to be the classic coaching tweener. He’s a great defensive coordinator, so good that it shouldn’t be that big a step to successful head coach. And for the most part, Phillips is a good head coach. At least for 10 months a year.
 

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And who wants to bet that the Big Mouth is one T Newman. Lets face it, he has never lived up to his draft slot and now he sees and hears that he is no longer the best cb on the team. Always was a chipper...
 

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Parcells wasn't coaching this team in the fall of 2007, or am I missing something completely here?
 

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casmith07;3127279 said:
Parcells wasn't coaching this team in the fall of 2007, or am I missing something completely here?

dont know what question your asking or to whom casmith?
 

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An emotional Bill Parcells stood in front of the media on Nov. 23, 2007 after the Cowboys beat Carolina, 24-20, to improve to 8-3 and tie them with Philadelphia, Carolina and St. Louis for the best record in the NFC.


now ive got you, was a typo error

16 December 24, 2005 Carolina Panthers W 24-20 Bank of America Stadium Recap
 

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casmith07;3127279 said:
Parcells wasn't coaching this team in the fall of 2007, or am I missing something completely here?

no he wasn't. that's a typo.
 

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cowboyjoe;3127312 said:
An emotional Bill Parcells stood in front of the media on Nov. 23, 2007 after the Cowboys beat Carolina, 24-20, to improve to 8-3 and tie them with Philadelphia, Carolina and St. Louis for the best record in the NFC.


now ive got you, was a typo error

16 December 24, 2005 Carolina Panthers W 24-20 Bank of America Stadium Recap
The aforementioned Carolina game was in 2003 (not 2007; not 2005):
see: http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sharedc...ecordbook/yearbyyear/2003/112403panthers.html

Parcells after the game:
"This was a tremendous win for us. You can't call them losers anymore," Parcells said of his players. "They're something else now. I'm happy for them. This was by far the best win I've had in Dallas. I'm proud of them."

BTW--the game was in Dallas too.
 

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I bet Singletary would call his players winners if they were 8-4 :)

Wade knows we havent won anything and if we faill to make the playoffs and succeed.....he knows the season was a failure....

He doesnt have to tell the media that.....and I bet the players know that these up comming games are important and that they havent won anything.


Once again.....saying his players are winners is just being blown out of propotion.....

Lets just beat the players down......looking around that seems to work really well around the league.:rolleyes:
 

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cowboyjoe;3127214 said:
not to me, to me wade is a whus;
I'll probably be sorry for asking, but what the hell is a whus?
 

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Mash;3127621 said:
I bet Singletary would call his players winners if they were 8-4 :)

Wade knows we havent won anything and if we faill to make the playoffs and succeed.....he knows the season was a failure....

He doesnt have to tell the media that.....and I bet the players know that these up comming games are important and that they havent won anything.


Once again.....saying his players are winners is just being blown out of propotion.....

Lets just beat the players down......looking around that seems to work really well around the league.:rolleyes:
I just do not know how the Dallas media get away with the crap they write/report on a continuous basis. They're a bunch of hypocrites, the whole lot of them. They claim to want honest answers , and so forth, but they won't be honest and come out and say what their real agenda is, and that is to get WP fired. Oh, the chances of him getting fired are pretty great, and I sure won't be sorry to see him go, but for the media to continually show a complete lack of respect for WP irritates me to no end. He's not a great HC by any stretch, but he's a hell of a lot better at coaching than they are writing/reporting.
Dallas media: KISS MY ***!
Rant over.
 
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