What are the odds of the cowboys drafting a qb in rd1.

[tomokawan]

If somehow Dart moved to the second round, I would jump up and get him. Whomever gets him, will have their future franchise QB. IMO

 

[Bullflop]

To be totally honest, I'd be shocked if we didn't use one of our 5th round picks on a QB. It'd be about the right time to draft a QB to be a backup for Dak when his next injury occurs. Wait and see!

 

[FanofJerry]

I'm surprised Deion would allow his son to play here.

Ultimately it's Shadeur's choice, but Deion has told teams that aren't the right fit to not draft his son. I guess he will refuse to play like Eli did.

 

[Reid1boys]

The odds are ZERO in the first round. We have far too many holes to fill and our first round pick has to be on the field. We have to come up with a real good player with that pick. However, I would be surprised if they don’t draft a QB at some point.

Fish keeps saying those in the building think will grier will do just fine as a backup. I think they get a QB if they think one is worth drafting. I do not see them taking one for the sake of taking one Not before 4th rd for sure.

 

[Reid1boys]

I'm surprised Deion would allow his son to play here.

Ultimately it's Shadeur's choice, but Deion has told teams that aren't the right fit to not draft his son. I guess he will refuse to play like Eli did.

Deion knows the brand. Deion signed a record deal here. Deion won a SB here. Why would he not want his kid in Dallas?

 

[dupree89]

I'm surprised Deion would allow his son to play here.

Ultimately it's Shadeur's choice, but Deion has told teams that aren't the right fit to not draft his son. I guess he will refuse to play like Eli did.

and elway too

 

[exciter]

I'm curious, what are the odds of the cowboys moving up if sanders is available at pick 8, or drafting dart at 12. To me those are the only capable qbs of starting besides cam, but he won't be available. And to be honest this is a good year to draft a qb because he can sit for a yr or 2 and learn, also when was the last time dak played a whole season without getting hurt. So Saunders or dart would be a great backup qb and insurance for when dak gets hurt.

0 in 100 trillion!

 

[zrinkill]

They are not smart enough to do that.

 

[exciter]

This FO does not value the QB position.

When was the last time we picked a QB in the first round? And did we have a starter at that time?

That should answer your question.

There is always a chance of course. Like there is a chance that an apple will fall upwards into the sky and not downwards and on Newtons head.

There’s no value in the QB position in this draft.
Ward is a bottom 2nd round talent.
Sanders a 5th
Dart a 6th
After that it’s a crapshoot of 7th to UDFA crap!
Throw a dart at a board!

 

[thunderpimp91]

Fish keeps saying those in the building think will grier will do just fine as a backup. I think they get a QB if they think one is worth drafting. I do not see them taking one for the sake of taking one Not before 4th rd for sure.

I'd be really surprised if people inside the building really thought this to be true. Grier is 30 and has struggled to even stay on practice squads his entire career. There is very little evidence to suggest that Grier is a quality backup in this league.

 

[Reid1boys]

I'd be really surprised if people inside the building really thought this to be true. Grier is 30 and has struggled to even stay on practice squads his entire career. There is very little evidence to suggest that Grier is a quality backup in this league.

and Cooper Rush was cut and not signed how many times?

 

[FanofJerry]

Deion knows the brand. Deion signed a record deal here. Deion won a SB here. Why would he not want his kid in Dallas?

Deion playing here means nothing at all.

This is about protecting Shedaur and making sure Shedaur goes to a team where Shedaur has a chance at a large second contract.

NFL teams fly through young QBs if they don't perform quickly.

Media loves to hate Dallas, media would love for Dallas' FRP QB to stink and pressure mount to try someone else.

Deion knows the brand, and knows Shedaur wont have playoff success here.

Dak is here for a while anyway

 

[ATXSRT]

Last time we drafted a QB in rd1 was Aikman.

 

[Sandyf]

I'm curious, what are the odds of the cowboys moving up if sanders is available at pick 8, or drafting dart at 12. To me those are the only capable qbs of starting besides cam, but he won't be available. And to be honest this is a good year to draft a qb because he can sit for a yr or 2 and learn, also when was the last time dak played a whole season without getting hurt. So Saunders or dart would be a great backup qb and insurance for when dak gets hurt.

Zero chance

 

[thunderpimp91]

and Cooper Rush was cut and not signed how many times?

Not many. Rush went from the Cowboys to the Giants and back to the Cowboys. Grier is on his 5th team in two seasons. Yeah stranger things have happened, but its a pretty short list of QBs that have turned into quality players after they hit 30.

 

[KJJ]

Fair point, but I think the more shocking part about the Atlanta move was they needed help in other places after getting Cousins. It's the primary argument that people are using for Dallas not to draft a QB early....they have other needs they can use that pick with. It's a very fair argument, but every few years we see teams taking the unexpected QB. Similar situation with Love/Rogers where I think everyone was sure that GB was going to take a skill player to give Rogers another weapon that year. GB even extended Rogers at $50M per year two years after drafting love.

It was a shocking move by Atlanta but Cousins was going to be 36 and was coming off a serious injury. They wanted to be prepared in the event he faltered which he did. Some were very high on Penix who was moving up draft boards. Rodgers was 38 when the Packers drafted Love and he was a later first round pick. GB needed a young QB to develop with Rodgers aging. If Sanders is still on the board at 12, it’s obvious no one thinks much of him. The Browns, Giants and Jets all need a young QB prospect.

Even the Raiders picking at number 6 aren’t real solid at QB. If all those teams are passing on Sanders, no way are the Cowboys taking him. They need a great player that’s going to help their new HC stick around for more than a couple of years. You can bet Schotty has ZERO interest taking a QB with our first and that goes for everyone else. However, I wouldn’t be totally shocked if we used a 2nd or 3rd on a QB. We do need a backup to develop. A QB who could develop into more later on.

 

[fivetwos]

Don't get me wrong Fivetwos, you're absolutely right in how you're looking at this....BUT....I will say if they were to go QB in this draft it would make the most sense to me to get one in the 1st round just because of the 5th year option. I'm very skeptical it happens, but it's probably the smartest way to go about it if this player is supposed to be the eventual replacement for Dak. It's possible they could move on from Dak in three years and still have two years of control over the new guy.

That route makes more sense to me than trading a decent pick for a guy like Joe Milton whose clock is already ticking.

Part of the thought process is that this is a weak QB class. Use a high pick now because they are forcing it means they are out on potential better options in the next draft or two.

Also the fifth year option isn’t cheap (and not an option unless it’s a first rounder), especially on a guy who has barely played if at all. The tag is expensive also. Would be nice to time things a little better and take at least a small advantage of the rookie deal. Next year? I wouldn’t argue, but since it’s their biggest player addition every year, I doubt they use a first anytime soon.

Honestly, you just don’t sign a QB to a four year deal for record money that’s structured to where you can’t get out of it until after three without significant pain, then have the next move be to find his successor immediately.

They can try to get lucky for a third time in a row for cheap, and probably will try that, but the next QB that wins here is probably drafted very high after rock bottom is hit….whenever that is.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I don’t think any QB outside of Cam Ward is good enough to be a First Rounder. But some teams will fall for the banana in the tailpipe..

 

[Jipper]

I agree with the thought process here, but if they are open to trading out of the 2nd round and back into the late 1st round why not use #12 on a QB if you like one? They can still use that late 1st round pick to go get a WR, DT, etc. That mid to late 1st round seems to be where the most value is this year.

i think they could do a lot of things to trade back in the 1st, then move up either to the top of the 2nd or very back of 1st - sounds like there is going to be a lot of teams wanting to move down at a discounted rate so they might be able to get there....and i am hearing the 2/3/4 is where the more value is, the mid to late first seems like mostly 2nd round players

 

[thunderpimp91]

It was Packers drafted Love and he was a later first round pick. GB needed a young QB to develop with Rodgers aging. If Sanders is still on the board at 12, it’s obvious no one thinks much of him. The Browns, Giants and Jets all need a young QB prospect.
a shocking move by Atlanta but Cousins was going to be 36 and was coming off a serious injury. They wanted to be prepared in the event he faltered which he did. Some were very high on Penix who was moving up draft boards. Rodgers was 38 when the
Even the Raiders picking at number 6 aren’t real solid at QB. If all those teams are passing on Sanders, no way are the Cowboys taking him. They need a great player that’s going to help their new HC stick around for more than a couple of years. You can bet Schotty has ZERO interest taking a QB with our first and that goes for everyone else. However, I wouldn’t be totally shocked if we used a 2nd or 3rd on a QB. We do need a backup to develop. A QB who could develop into more later on.

And to an extent I would agree with you. I think its very unlikely the Cowboys go QB early, but I wouldn't completely rule it out either. Stranger things have happened, plus Dak is 32 and coming off a season ending injury. Really he only has one full season since 2020. Its possible that QB2 is viewed as an elevated need, and they would have an opportunity to groom the next guy at the same time. Again its not what I would predict to happen, but I wouldn't be completely caught off guard if it did happen either.