What Do Accountability Mean ?

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i bet i have read a 1000 posts here from guys demanding " accountability".

what exactly do you accountabilitist want ?

you realize the players are seen by thousands of people on TV, scrutinized by 100's of media types, their every move on the field is analyzed,measured,
cussed and discussed on dozens of message boards.

if someone makes a mistake they get blamed.

what do you guys really want ?

make em run laps after practice ?
that might have worked in high school.

cut one of your starters ?
check the waiver wire and see how often that happens.

fine them for penalties and mistakes ?
how do we know if they do that or not .

how would any of you like if your job performance was broadcast nationally, written about in every newspaper....yet you think they are not accountable?

i dont deny they have played stupid, sloppy football but can we find a better buzz word ? please ??
 
I wouldn't mind trying any of those until somthing resinates. Also preach having a little pride in your craft and a desire to succeed at a team level and not just be happy with a paycheck. But that's just me, i'm a dinosaur, these young punks ain't got a clue what I mean.
 
poke;3616259 said:
i bet i have read a 1000 posts here from guys demanding " accountability".

what exactly do you accountabilitist want ?

Someone within the flippin organization, jerry on down, to quit telling themselves that they don't know what it is but they damn sure can fix it. Fix what, exactly? if you can't put a finger on it how do you kow what to fix? Stop with the pixie and fairy dust approach at every turn.


poke;3616259 said:
you realize the players are seen by thousands of people on TV, scrutinized by 100's of media types, their every move on the field is analyzed,measured,
cussed and discussed on dozens of message boards.

You don't say. Do we all realize that they make a very concerted effort to arrive where they are and that this is part of the J.O.B.? Most of them get the same experience in college WELL before they hit the money level. Don't sugar coat the obvious with ......sugar. Pretty useless line of defense for a bunch of grown men whom have done the football gig for quite some time now and we all know what's involved.

poke;3616259 said:
if someone makes a mistake they get blamed.

Who wants blame? We want the same group of guys to improve. What's so difficult to understand about that? What in the blue hell do they practice for? A daily grind to go through the motions? Seems so.


poke;3616259 said:
what do you guys really want ?

A team that has desire. Not a handful of dudes that really want the brass ring along with a staff that seems content in doing their jobs and shrugging their shoulders when their athletes don't pull it all together come Sunday.

poke;3616259 said:
make em run laps after practice ?
that might have worked in high school.


Don't trivialize the extent of grown men who can't and/or won't play every down of football like their paid to do. This ain't high school. Their paid professionals.

poke;3616259 said:
cut one of your starters ?
check the waiver wire and see how often that happens.

Flo was let go. #81 was let go. I do not advocate cutting starters and neither do you because the thought itself is ludicrous. Reeks of quitting in my book. Lets cut the dude's because we can't coach 'em up. Brilliant!

poke;3616259 said:
fine them for penalties and mistakes ?
how do we know if they do that or not .

Fine them? Pennies for todays over-paid athlete. You want complete dissention.......have Davis laugh at the organization for a 100 dollar fine. In the locker room. With all his buddies. Pretty soon the bets on who gets fined within the team will trump anything Dallas could impose. Right on!!


poke;3616259 said:
how would any of you like if your job performance was broadcast nationally, written about in every newspaper....yet you think they are not accountable?

They vast majority of poster's on this board and their job functions, performed good or bad, has alot more weight to it than being broadcst to the world. We have mouths to feed and that smashes any comparison to the world knowing you suck at what you do. True as it may be.

It sure seems it doesn't faze this group in the accountability department. You see any drastic changes in the last 3 years on the playing field that says otherwise? If it's accountability you're looking for..........I personally am still waiting for it's effect on Sundays. 130+ yards of penalties. Turnovers. Gameplanning. YOu tell me how they acheive 500+ yds of offense. 400 yds passing. 100 yds rushing. 27 points and they STILL lose a football game. I'll patiently wait a reasonable response.


poke;3616259 said:
i dont deny they have played stupid, sloppy football but can we find a better buzz word ? please ??

Here...........Content.
 
I have never used the term accountability so far as I can remember but I would like to see this team get meaner. This aw shucks folks approach from our HC shows up on the field. I want to see the funeral wreath. I want the passion of Too Tall, The meanness of Randy, I want the Nastiness of Haley, and I want the desire of Irvin. We have the talent. We just need someone to step in and light a fire under their ***. They seem to be out their collecting their pay checks. They look like a bunch of government employees at times.
 
I want this team to take the Marion Barber approach and stop talking to the media and let your action speak for itself. At the end of the day no one cares what you says, the play on the field will speak volumes.
 
DMX690;3616412 said:
I want this team to take the Marion Barber approach and stop talking to the media and let your action speak for itself. At the end of the day no one cares what you says, the play on the field will speak volumes.

If they quit talking to the media, then half the posters on this bored would be having a meltdown about... yep, accountability..if they had a bad game.

Of course, JFE would be happy, ammo for more of her articles.
 
The truth is that we really dont know. How can we as fans know the real problem with this team? We are not in the locker room. We dont know the many different dynamics and personalities involved. In fact we really wouldnt know even if we were in their. We are a passionate group of football fans. We all like to say how this person should be fired, and this guy needs to be benched, and run this play more ect. But we are just guessing and venting. Sure it make for some great back and forth between fans. But the reality is that non of us would know what to do if we actually had a chance to impact the cowboys.

We dont know how hard Dig Davis works, how much he cares about losing. We dont know his passion or commitment level. We dont know if this team has leaders in the locker room. We dont know what Romo, Witten. Ware, Ratliff, Newman, ect say to the guys. We cant know. We want to know. But we are just fans living our lives. We can get on a message board and say bench and fire people. But we dont have to live with the consequences of our actions both good and bad.

With that said. What we do know is that something isnt working. We have a team that plays undisciplined consistently. They are not a consistent team. Unless that consistency is being inconsistent. As fans who follow a team we do know this. We know 1-3 isnt good enough. We know the difference between 1-3 and 3-1 is turnovers and penalties. And we know that we have been watching the same group of underachievers for a few years now. We know that each year we hope suddenly we will start finding ways to win instead of ways to lose.

And i dont think it would be unfair at all to blame the top for this. I like Jerry. I give him credit for putting together a talented team. I give him credit for his passion. But if he wants the glory for success then he is also getting the criticism for failure. Maybe its a coaching change. Maybe its a change in philosophy. Maybe Wade was doomed when he took the job. He wasnt even allowed to pick his assistants. He was hired into a situation where he couldnt even discipline without Jerry giving the ok. I cant blame Wade. I think he has done his best. But i can see that in a league where the difference between winning and losing is a coupe of penalties and a turnover the philosophy of the team has a fatal flaw. It needs a coach that is allowed to make his feeling known. A coach that is allow to have authority. Jerry set this up. And if he fail to hire a coach like Cowher then it will be because they are too smart to coach under Jerry and this fantasy land philosophy he operates under.

If Jerry wants to coach. Then go ahead Jerry. Be the coach. But dont cut your coaches balls off and then expect the team to succeed. If you want the job then do the job. But stop making others fail because you have a system in place that refuses to let them do their jobs.
 
Hugging and kissing and chatting and butt grabbing on the field, after loss = ??


You know what funny. Some like TO, some hate TO.... but after a loss HE WAS BENT. He walked off the field ANGRY. (nah, I dont want him back, I see why he is gone)


You dont really see that with these guys.
 
poke;3616259 said:
i bet i have read a 1000 posts here from guys demanding " accountability".

what exactly do you accountabilitist want ?

you realize the players are seen by thousands of people on TV, scrutinized by 100's of media types, their every move on the field is analyzed,measured,
cussed and discussed on dozens of message boards.

if someone makes a mistake they get blamed.

what do you guys really want ?

make em run laps after practice ?
that might have worked in high school.

cut one of your starters ?
check the waiver wire and see how often that happens.

fine them for penalties and mistakes ?
how do we know if they do that or not .

how would any of you like if your job performance was broadcast nationally, written about in every newspaper....yet you think they are not accountable?

i dont deny they have played stupid, sloppy football but can we find a better buzz word ? please ??

What a burden it must be to get paid a kings ransom at the expense of being a public figure.

I just don't think I could handle being that wealthy if JFE or JJT are going to talk poorly about me.

As far as trying to hold them accountable. I think benching a guy for committing the same mistakes week-in and week-out is a start. Leonard Davis was benched and then promptly returned to his starting position.

For what reason? Holland came in and things improved. Why does Davis immediately get his spot back? Leonard said he wasn't shocked he was benched.

Give Holland the starting spot and let him either play his way out of the lineup or get beat out by Davis.

That's accountability. Discouraging piss poor performance and rewarding hard work and solid performance.

I dunno. Seems pretty simple. You make guys earn what they are given and don't hesitate to retract their earned perks if they aren't living up to the expectations set out when they earned said perks. You definitely do not reward shoddy performances.

And to answer another question. I would have made a cut this season. Alex Barron would have been toast after week 1.
 
I can tell there is no accountability because you see the same players making the same mistakes week after week.
You seem the same underachieveres trotted out there week after week.
You see an Alex Barron getting beat like a turnstyle in week one, than caught laughing it up on the sideline. He still receives a paycheck from the team.
David Beuhler can miss a dozen more fg's and he will keep his job.
Brooking looks slow and is making virtually no impact....yet he stays on the field for pretty much every snap.

I am encouraged they benched Leonard last week...hope this wasn't an isolated incident and the coaching staff has the gumption to continue to take snaps away from people who play with no pride and worse no productivity.
 

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