What does "It's Garrett's Scheme" mean?

[xwalker]

I constantly see people say it's Garrett's scheme when the OC is discussed.

Linehan has been here 4 years now.

Callahan called plays for 1 year.

I really think it's the nomenclature that is Garrett's (i.e. How they name the plays).

I don't think the scheme is preventing Linehan from creating any play that he wants to implement.

Jerry's main concern with a new OC was preventing the players from having to learn new terminology for the play calls.

I don't know how much Garrett is involved in the offensive meetings. He could have a significant influence on the game plan or none. I really don't know.

My conclusion is that Garrett himself might be influencing the plays/game-plan but Garrett's scheme itself is not a limiting factor on Linehan.

 

[Alexander]

Garrett's scheme and Linehan's scheme are philosophical cousins.

 

[big dog cowboy]

What does "It's Garrett's Scheme" mean?

That's code for heaping pile of stuff.

 

[CF74]

 

[65fastback2plus2]

because it was almost identical and sucked before linehan got here as well

 

[Avery]

 

[jobberone]

When the players execute the offense is among the best in the league. My problems are with parts of it as well as the predictability. You can say so what if it does produce but I think it breaks down at times.

 

[Buzzbait]

I constantly see people say it's Garrett's scheme when the OC is discussed.

Linehan has been here 4 years now.

Callahan called plays for 1 year.

I really think it's the nomenclature that is Garrett's (i.e. How they name the plays).

I don't think the scheme is preventing Linehan from creating any play that he wants to implement.

Jerry's main concern with a new OC was preventing the players from having to learn new terminology for the play calls.

I don't know how much Garrett is involved in the offensive meetings. He could have a significant influence on the game plan or none. I really don't know.

My conclusion is that Garrett himself might be influencing the plays/game-plan but Garrett's scheme itself is not a limiting factor on Linehan.

Back when they brought Linehan in, it seemed everybody said Linehan was Garrett's choice. That means he chose someone who would fit Garrett's style of play calling, and IMO that definitely turned out to be the case. Linehan calls plays just like Garrett. Don't know if it's because of Garrett's influence or if Linehan just naturally mirrors Garrett's style, but if Garrett disagreed with Linehan's style, Linehan wouldn't have lasted long.

 

[TheDuke]

It doesn't mean anything. It's just a term people throw around. In reality the offense is a collective effort made by everyone on the offensive staff. Most don't want to hear that though. Obviously the greatest impact comes from Garrett and Linehan. The run first philosophy specifically comes from Garrett.

The problem in fixing the passing game comes down to this imo.

Either we find a QB to run the scheme the way it is supposed to be run or we find a scheme to fit the players we have. Unfortunately we don't have that with the staff currently in place. It's a bad match between scheme and personnel.

 

[jazzcat22]

Don’t worry, it will soon be blamed on Dez, and this will become an anti Dez thread....

 

[Toruk_Makto]

The team is top 10 DVOA on offense and 7th in points per drive. But yes let's blame the scheme.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Think of the Zampese style scheme like a basketball offense that doesn't quite run actual diagrammed plays (bare with me for a moment) and relies on being able to read the defense and understand the principles and adjustments that you need to make mid-play against the defense. The WCO is more like Bobby Knight. You go and run your part of the play and you don't deviate from that. And if you move the ball around enough you will finally get somebody with an open jumper.

There is more actual designed routes in a Zampese scheme than say watching a coach like Jim Boeheim who basically allows the players to just kinda run the offense and understand the principles of where they should be, how to create a shot, etc. So a lot of the Garrett scheme is based on making sight adjustments. Lots of option routes, etc. So the play call may call for a go route, but the defense may be designed as such where the WR and QB are supposed to know that they are supposed to throw a deep post.

This is perfectly fine.

What I have a problem with Garrett's scheme is many of his plays call for curls and hitches. And he loves to try and throw the fade route to Dez in the red zone which is a low percentage throw regardless of the receiver. The hitches and curls don't fool defenses, they don't provide for much YAC and they have a higher chance of being picked off or worse yet...a pick 6. Oh, and your WR gets to have the cornerback stick his foot in the ground and hit you in the back going full speed.

The bigger issues I have is more with the amount of plays we run thru for a year. We simply do not change up our plays and our personnel looks. We'll run the jet sweep and everybody knows it's either a jet sweep or a run with Elliott. It's never a pass. Last week we ran the 22 personnel with Dez as the WR and you pretty much knew they were going to use play action and throw to Dez. On 2nd down we'll go empty backfield and we know that will mean basically curls, hitches, outs and drags because the QB has to get the ball out quickly. We'll line up Dez in the slot on 3rd down and you know he's going to run a dig route over the middle.

If I have another problem with the scheme it's that we have basically made T-Will an H-Back and on so many downs we are essentially playing either 12 or 22 personnel since T-Will is there for blocking and to find the soft spot in the short zone.

So there are some things I really dislike about the scheme, but I also hate the limited amount of plays we run and how that limits what we can do with our playcalls.






YR

 

[Alexander]

When the players execute the offense is among the best in the league.

So are the majority of the offenses in the league. When a coach starts blaming failure on execution, that just tells me that they aren't willing to face facts that they are not equipped to adjust.

 

[Alexander]

Don’t worry, it will soon be blamed on Dez, and this will become an anti Dez thread....

 

[Asklesko]

That's Garrett's scheme.

 

[Jake]

Don’t worry, it will soon be blamed on Dez, and this will become an anti Dez thread....

You've done this now in multiple threads. You claim it'll become an "anti Dez" thread while being the first poster to bring Dez into it.

 

[Jake]

The team is top 10 DVOA on offense and 7th in points per drive. But yes let's blame the scheme.

Our fans tend to look to the offense to bail out the defense, probably because of years of mediocrity (or worse) on the defensive side leaving little confidence in it.

Meanwhile, we'll never get over the hump until the defense can be trusted to get 3rd down stops in the second half and hold double-digit leads at home.

 

[nycowboyfan]

 

[xwalker]

Think of the Zampese style scheme like a basketball offense that doesn't quite run actual diagrammed plays (bare with me for a moment) and relies on being able to read the defense and understand the principles and adjustments that you need to make mid-play against the defense. The WCO is more like Bobby Knight. You go and run your part of the play and you don't deviate from that. And if you move the ball around enough you will finally get somebody with an open jumper.

There is more actual designed routes in a Zampese scheme than say watching a coach like Jim Boeheim who basically allows the players to just kinda run the offense and understand the principles of where they should be, how to create a shot, etc. So a lot of the Garrett scheme is based on making sight adjustments. Lots of option routes, etc. So the play call may call for a go route, but the defense may be designed as such where the WR and QB are supposed to know that they are supposed to throw a deep post.

This is perfectly fine.

What I have a problem with Garrett's scheme is many of his plays call for curls and hitches. And he loves to try and throw the fade route to Dez in the red zone which is a low percentage throw regardless of the receiver. The hitches and curls don't fool defenses, they don't provide for much YAC and they have a higher chance of being picked off or worse yet...a pick 6. Oh, and your WR gets to have the cornerback stick his foot in the ground and hit you in the back going full speed.

The bigger issues I have is more with the amount of plays we run thru for a year. We simply do not change up our plays and our personnel looks. We'll run the jet sweep and everybody knows it's either a jet sweep or a run with Elliott. It's never a pass. Last week we ran the 22 personnel with Dez as the WR and you pretty much knew they were going to use play action and throw to Dez. On 2nd down we'll go empty backfield and we know that will mean basically curls, hitches, outs and drags because the QB has to get the ball out quickly. We'll line up Dez in the slot on 3rd down and you know he's going to run a dig route over the middle.

If I have another problem with the scheme it's that we have basically made T-Will an H-Back and on so many downs we are essentially playing either 12 or 22 personnel since T-Will is there for blocking and to find the soft spot in the short zone.

So there are some things I really dislike about the scheme, but I also hate the limited amount of plays we run and how that limits what we can do with our playcalls.

YR

Good post but that's not really Garrett's "scheme" limiting Linehan. It's just their weekly game plan and Linehan's specific calls that are limiting the offense.

Linehan could create a different game plan and could call the game differently. Yes they're tied somewhat to the sight adjustment style vs West Coast style but that's true for any variant of this style of offense.

On the sight adjustment (option routes) issue, it appears that they don't ask Dez to run those anymore or very rarely. In the Romo years Dez and Romo would read those differently and it was often very obvious. We would see Romo discussing it with Dez after the play failed. This year it appears that Dez just runs a designated route with no option. I'm not saying it's completely zero but it's close to zero.

 

[jobberone]

So are the majority of the offense in the league. When a coach starts blaming failure on execution, that just tells me that they aren't willing to face facts that they are not equipped to adjust.

The majority of the teams aren't elite including offense even if you aren't saying that but to make a point. It does say we aren't consistent when you look at scoring per game and esp looking inside more than a few games.