What Happened to Kellen Moore? Informative Articles Detailing What Many Of Us Saw

817Gill

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Got curious and wanted to do some googling on how Moore is perceived now and how the league views his schematics. As a guy who was basically destined for a HC opportunity, he seems to be teetering on the edge of career OC to offensive assistant. Maybe even having to hop down to the college ranks.

He certainly has some updating to do schematically, and being young I don’t see why he can’t. Regardless, his fall in reputation and praise is at the very least extremely interesting. Here are some articles as well as a link to the Chargers forum where a 144 page Kellen Moore thread is ongoing, starting from his hiring to now. It’s eery how similar some of these complaints are.

One being his scheme is too complex to play fast and he lacks the desire to adjust it. Forces the QB to hold onto the ball too long and receivers to make too many decisions downfield (Dak’s INT’s explained in my opinion).

“How Chargers’ Kellen Moore-designed run game went from Week 1 excitement to league worst” (Article from site we can’t post)

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/new...hing-failures-of-kellen-moore-this-year-rks97

https://www.lafbnetwork.com/los-angeles-chargers-offense-broken/

https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2...gs-kellen-moore-justin-herbert-austin-ekeler/

https://www.thepowderblues.com/foru...0-welcome-oc-kellen-moore/page143#post1586348 (forum thread)

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Because he was a Jerry Boy.....part of the good 'ole boys club.....thats the only reason he was here......remember..jerry wants to be part of ......'the fun' but only when they are winning....cant fire himself when they are losing....
 

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Got curious and wanted to do some googling on how Moore is perceived now and how the league views his schematics. As a guy who was basically destined for a HC opportunity, he seems to be teetering on the edge of career OC to offensive assistant. Maybe even having to hop down to the college ranks.

He certainly has some updating to do schematically, and being young I don’t see why he can’t. Regardless, his fall in reputation and praise is at the very least extremely interesting. Here are some articles as well as a link to the Chargers forum where a 144 page Kellen Moore thread is ongoing, starting from his hiring to now. It’s eery how similar some of these complaints are.

One being his scheme is too complex to play fast and he lacks the desire to adjust it. Forces the QB to hold onto the ball too long and receivers to make too many decisions downfield (Dak’s INT’s explained in my opinion).

“How Chargers’ Kellen Moore-designed run game went from Week 1 excitement to league worst” (Article from site we can’t post)

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/new...hing-failures-of-kellen-moore-this-year-rks97

https://www.lafbnetwork.com/los-angeles-chargers-offense-broken/

https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2...gs-kellen-moore-justin-herbert-austin-ekeler/

https://www.thepowderblues.com/foru...0-welcome-oc-kellen-moore/page143#post1586348 (forum thread)

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That was Garrets problem too.

Romo seemed to look better in broken or improvised plays than designed plays.

And we always blamed the OLine, but they faced an impossible task.
 

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To be fair, Ekeler is the key to that offense. Had a good Game 1 then hurt his knee and missed a month and has come back gimpy and slow.
 

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Got curious and wanted to do some googling on how Moore is perceived now and how the league views his schematics. As a guy who was basically destined for a HC opportunity, he seems to be teetering on the edge of career OC to offensive assistant. Maybe even having to hop down to the college ranks.

He certainly has some updating to do schematically, and being young I don’t see why he can’t. Regardless, his fall in reputation and praise is at the very least extremely interesting. Here are some articles as well as a link to the Chargers forum where a 144 page Kellen Moore thread is ongoing, starting from his hiring to now. It’s eery how similar some of these complaints are.

One being his scheme is too complex to play fast and he lacks the desire to adjust it. Forces the QB to hold onto the ball too long and receivers to make too many decisions downfield (Dak’s INT’s explained in my opinion).

“How Chargers’ Kellen Moore-designed run game went from Week 1 excitement to league worst” (Article from site we can’t post)

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/new...hing-failures-of-kellen-moore-this-year-rks97

https://www.lafbnetwork.com/los-angeles-chargers-offense-broken/

https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2...gs-kellen-moore-justin-herbert-austin-ekeler/

https://www.thepowderblues.com/foru...0-welcome-oc-kellen-moore/page143#post1586348 (forum thread)

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same complaints we had. routes take too long. some route combinations are too simplistic. and WRs have to make decisions on routes mid route, and QB has to make same read. leads to errant throws and interceptions.

his play calling makes no sense at times
 

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Got curious and wanted to do some googling on how Moore is perceived now and how the league views his schematics. As a guy who was basically destined for a HC opportunity, he seems to be teetering on the edge of career OC to offensive assistant. Maybe even having to hop down to the college ranks.

He certainly has some updating to do schematically, and being young I don’t see why he can’t. Regardless, his fall in reputation and praise is at the very least extremely interesting. Here are some articles as well as a link to the Chargers forum where a 144 page Kellen Moore thread is ongoing, starting from his hiring to now. It’s eery how similar some of these complaints are.

One being his scheme is too complex to play fast and he lacks the desire to adjust it. Forces the QB to hold onto the ball too long and receivers to make too many decisions downfield (Dak’s INT’s explained in my opinion).

“How Chargers’ Kellen Moore-designed run game went from Week 1 excitement to league worst” (Article from site we can’t post)

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/new...hing-failures-of-kellen-moore-this-year-rks97

https://www.lafbnetwork.com/los-angeles-chargers-offense-broken/

https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2...gs-kellen-moore-justin-herbert-austin-ekeler/

https://www.thepowderblues.com/foru...0-welcome-oc-kellen-moore/page143#post1586348 (forum thread)

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I think the biggest problem is that Kellen created some kind of fantasy wish fulfillment offense for himself. As in, he designed the dream offense that would have worked for him at quarterback instead of a system that works for other people.
 

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Moore's offense obviously isn't without its merits. The statistics on it here in Dallas were good. IMO, its strengths in attacking downfield and having WR's adjust their routes to the coverage were also its weaknesses. Against a team with a weak pass rush, the QB can comfortably sit in the pocket and wait for the plays to develop, read the defense and hit the guy. Teams with stronger pass rushes or disguising their coverage put pressure on both the QB and WR. This creates opportunities for mistakes which would eventually happen.

This dichotomy is why (IMO) the team would light up the scoreboard against weaker defenses but then struggle disproportionately against better defenses.

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MM's offense is better suited to go against good defenses. The ball gets out quicker and the reads are simpler.
 

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Their whole WR corps getting hurt didn't help, and neither did drafting the wrong WR in the first round.

The system works, it's just a lot more talent-dependent than others.
 

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Being pushed up the ranks so early and undeserving and then on top of that having Garrett as your "mentor" I feel really did Kellen in. But great riddance either way lol
I think this is the biggest part of it. He's got the talent for it, but it came too soon and never got the experience coaching that he needed.
 

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Ekeler was their top RB and a threat in the pass game. But you got jokes
Was? As in last year under Joe Lombardi? How the heck could he be the center of Moore’s offense when Moore was in Dallas lol?

It’s not a joke but it does make you look funny for being so off-base.
 

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Was? As in last year under Joe Lombardi? How the heck could he be the center of Moore’s offense when Moore was in Dallas lol?

It’s not a joke but it does make you look funny for being so off-base.
This is tiring..you're so dense. My exact words was "key to that offense". Meaning the Chargers. Do you think Moore arrived in the offseason and said we're not gonna use him? Agsin as I pointed out he was featured in Game 1 this year with MOORE then got hurt, missed 4 games, and hasnt been the same since.

It was a simple point in the context of "to be fair". But you can't handle context, nuance nor objectivity. You just wanna rant.
 

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This is tiring..you're so dense. My exact words was "key to that offense". Meaning the Chargers. Do you think Moore arrived in the offseason and said we're not gonna use him? Agsin as I pointed out he was featured in Game 1 this year with MOORE then got hurt, missed 4 games, and hasnt been the same since.

It was a simple point in the context of "to be fair". But you can't handle context, nuance nor objectivity. You just wanna rant.
You can’t even make that statement if you have seen Moore’s offense. Ekeler has played multiple games this year and has not been the focal point he was before. That is the actual facts you can reference to see what “key” he is.

Kellen doesn’t have a pass heavy RB scheme which is what Ekeler thrived at last season under dink and dunk Lombardi. It’s not that serious but Ekeler was never going to be a focal point of any Kellen Moore ran offense unless he thrived at A gap handoffs. That’s why his backup has been more productive.
 

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One of those posts from the bottom most link made me laugh. That Dak is the frontrunner for MVP the year after Moore departs. I'm sure it isn't funny to Moore. But that along with the Chargers collapse isn't making his future any brighter.
 

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One of those posts from the bottom most link made me laugh. That Dak is the frontrunner for MVP the year after Moore departs. I'm sure it isn't funny to Moore. But that along with the Chargers collapse isn't making his future any brighter.
Maybe Moore taught Dak what NOT to do and thinking it over during the off-season he realized that
 
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