What happened to the run game?

[kskboys]

If you think about it, the only time this Jerry run team has won is when the running game hid the problems. Weak D? No problem keep them off the field for as much as you can. If a D is undermanned, limit their exposure, and has the added effect of keeping them fresher.

So, what happened to the run game? Injuries, absolutely. However, we have another problem. We prefer dancers on the OL to bulls. What's the problem? Our backups tend to be understrength. Because of this preference. Remember when we kept trying to cut ol' Montrae Holland? Did our best to replace him because he wasn't much at blocking at the 2nd level. (That means getting off the LOS and blocking LB's and such). So, we replaced him. And then brought him back. Why? Because we kept bringing in our dancers. And say what you want about Montrae, wasn't anyone moving him off the LOS!!!! He was a stalwart on the line. We were better w/ him than w/ one of our dancers.

Our starters are both. Dancers and bulls. Martin, Tyron, Collins, and used to be Fredsy. Those guys could both dominate the LOS and get out and block LB's. You mostly have to go to the first round to get those types, though. Maybe McGovern and co. will get there, but as of right now, looks to me like we're losing the battle at the LOS.

W/o domination from the OL, we simply can't win. The team has once again been derailed w/o having a dominant running game to lean on. Because there's simply too many holes.

 

[ShiningStar]

the culture of this franchise is nothing more than a swamp, and thats being kind.

JJ and SJ arent leaving. they are the cause of the swamp.

 

[SoupcanSam]

If you think about it, the only time this Jerry run team has won is when the running game hid the problems. Weak D? No problem keep them off the field for as much as you can. If a D is undermanned, limit their exposure, and has the added effect of keeping them fresher.

So, what happened to the run game? Injuries, absolutely. However, we have another problem. We prefer dancers on the OL to bulls. What's the problem? Our backups tend to be understrength. Because of this preference. Remember when we kept trying to cut ol' Montrae Holland? Did our best to replace him because he wasn't much at blocking at the 2nd level. (That means getting off the LOS and blocking LB's and such). So, we replaced him. And then brought him back. Why? Because we kept bringing in our dancers. And say what you want about Montrae, wasn't anyone moving him off the LOS!!!! He was a stalwart on the line. We were better w/ him than w/ one of our dancers.

Our starters are both. Dancers and bulls. Martin, Tyron, Collins, and used to be Fredsy. Those guys could both dominate the LOS and get out and block LB's. You mostly have to go to the first round to get those types, though. Maybe McGovern and co. will get there, but as of right now, looks to me like we're losing the battle at the LOS.

W/o domination from the OL, we simply can't win. The team has once again been derailed w/o having a dominant running game to lean on. Because there's simply too many holes.

Youd seriously need to be a fly on the wall in Jerrys camp to know wth is actually going on.

 

[Vomit]

the culture of this franchise is nothing more than a swamp, and thats being kind.

JJ and SJ arent leaving. they are the cause of the swamp.

They ARE the swamp. Fetid, putrid stink......

 

[kskboys]

Only thing that ever saves this team is a dominant running game. We simply cannot get it done w/o that.

 

[CouchCoach]

The illusion of Booger being better at drafting is one thing. Any draft analyst will tell you that OL is the best "can't miss" position in the 1st round and the Cowboys have 4 of those and pay them like it. What backs them up? Williams is the weak link, again, and McGovern is the unknown of the draft picks and then a bunch of JAGS. Looney has been the best of them but still a hard fall from Yosemite when he's 100%.

The Cowboys cannot play well missing one starting OL, take out two and have the RG nursing a bad back and the C recovering from a serious illness and you've got an offense that has to improvise. Is this that kind of offense? Add that the RB1 needs holes and is not a make'em miss style of RB and you've got a steep hill to climb.

One thing I would have experimented with was putting Pollard in on a lot more plays because he's got moves and is more elusive than Elliott.

But the real culprit in this last loss wasn't the RB or the OL, it was the drops. Can't have that with a banged up offense, players have to pick it up not drop it.

 

[CouchCoach]

Only thing that ever saves this team is a dominant running game. We simply cannot get it done w/o that.

Well, that's what it was built for so if they can't do that, they're done. This is not a passing team.

 

[John813]

Well, they(Callahan) wanted to run the ZBS. That requires quicker guys.
The 2013 and 14 drafts were with him still here.

It's a two fold issue. One, there is a shortage of good to great O-Line in the league. Backups are backups for a reason and they have holes in their game. Like you said to get that hybrid grader-finesse guy it has to be usually round 1.

Another issue IMO is that they don't game plan with the backups in mind. It's seems to me that it's the same gameplan whether it's Smith at LT or Flemming.
Facing a good RDE with Smith? Smith can do it 1-1. Same RDE with Cam? Well, good luck Cam, FIGHT.

I think right now we have Frederick who is back on the field, but who knows where his current strength/conditioning is.
Martin has a back issue. Good luck winning battles with that.
Smith has had nagging other issues and a back issue too.
Williams bulked up but still isn't a physically dominate player.

 

[charron]

If you think about it, the only time this Jerry run team has won is when the running game hid the problems. Weak D? No problem keep them off the field for as much as you can. If a D is undermanned, limit their exposure, and has the added effect of keeping them fresher.

So, what happened to the run game? Injuries, absolutely. However, we have another problem. We prefer dancers on the OL to bulls. What's the problem? Our backups tend to be understrength. Because of this preference. Remember when we kept trying to cut ol' Montrae Holland? Did our best to replace him because he wasn't much at blocking at the 2nd level. (That means getting off the LOS and blocking LB's and such). So, we replaced him. And then brought him back. Why? Because we kept bringing in our dancers. And say what you want about Montrae, wasn't anyone moving him off the LOS!!!! He was a stalwart on the line. We were better w/ him than w/ one of our dancers.

Our starters are both. Dancers and bulls. Martin, Tyron, Collins, and used to be Fredsy. Those guys could both dominate the LOS and get out and block LB's. You mostly have to go to the first round to get those types, though. Maybe McGovern and co. will get there, but as of right now, looks to me like we're losing the battle at the LOS.

W/o domination from the OL, we simply can't win. The team has once again been derailed w/o having a dominant running game to lean on. Because there's simply too many holes.

I don't think that's it at all. Look back at the last 4 games. Why the big difference in play from the 1st half to the 2nd?

In miami we allowed 6 pts then shut them out, saints we allowed 9 pts then held them to 3 in the 2nd half, Jets we allowed 21 but held them to 3 in the second, GB was the outlier here allowing 17 in both halves.

Offensively we scored 10 of 31 in miami, vs saints we scored 3 then 10, vs GB we were shut out then scored 24, and with the jets we scored 6 ealy and 16 in the 2nd.

It's as if it takes us 2 quarters to get things going on both sides of the ball. These coordinators need to make adjustments earlier in the game or come up with a better game plan to start with. We get exposed all around in the 1st half. If we start playing like we do in the 2nd half of games we wouldn't be on a 3 game losing streak.

 

[cowboyblue22]

what wrong with this team is that most fans thought they were a 10 or 12 win team and they are a 6 to 7 win team the talent is not what we think it is and the coaching is far worse its been the m o of jones cowboys now for a long time

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It's an odd numbered year.

 

[Whirlwin]

The offensive line, is pissed the franchise paid Elliott

 

[gmb1]

They ARE the swamp. Fetid, putrid stink......

We must drain the swamp.

 

[kskboys]

I don't think that's it at all. Look back at the last 4 games. Why the big difference in play from the 1st half to the 2nd?

In miami we allowed 6 pts then shut them out, saints we allowed 9 pts then held them to 3 in the 2nd half, Jets we allowed 21 but held them to 3 in the second, GB was the outlier here allowing 17 in both halves.

Offensively we scored 10 of 31 in miami, vs saints we scored 3 then 10, vs GB we were shut out then scored 24, and with the jets we scored 6 ealy and 16 in the 2nd.

It's as if it takes us 2 quarters to get things going on both sides of the ball. These coordinators need to make adjustments earlier in the game or come up with a better game plan to start with. We get exposed all around in the 1st half. If we start playing like we do in the 2nd half of games we wouldn't be on a 3 game losing streak.

Whenever we've consistently won since 2010, it was because we leaned on the running game. It's in the books. So, I'm curious, why would you disagree?

 

[Future]

If you can't win without 5 Pro-Bowl players on the offensive line, you have a coaching problem.

 

[Vomit]

If you can't win without 5 Pro-Bowl players on the offensive line, you have a coaching problem.

Perhaps. But the overall picture in 25 years of mediocrity is the “GM problem” that they have.

 

[charron]

Whenever we've consistently won since 2010, it was because we leaned on the running game. It's in the books. So, I'm curious, why would you disagree?

I'm really not sure why we can't win. I mean we're pretty damn good in the second half we're good enough to win games if we played like we do in the second half for the entire game were winning all of these games. I really don't know what the difference is I don't know if it's execution or scheme or both. I don't want to say that we don't have the personnel to do it because we are we are doing it for an entire half we just can't get out of the holes that we get in from the first half.

 

[Jake]

If you think about it, the only time this Jerry run team has won is when the running game hid the problems. Weak D? No problem keep them off the field for as much as you can. If a D is undermanned, limit their exposure, and has the added effect of keeping them fresher.

So, what happened to the run game? Injuries, absolutely. However, we have another problem. We prefer dancers on the OL to bulls. What's the problem? Our backups tend to be understrength. Because of this preference. Remember when we kept trying to cut ol' Montrae Holland? Did our best to replace him because he wasn't much at blocking at the 2nd level. (That means getting off the LOS and blocking LB's and such). So, we replaced him. And then brought him back. Why? Because we kept bringing in our dancers. And say what you want about Montrae, wasn't anyone moving him off the LOS!!!! He was a stalwart on the line. We were better w/ him than w/ one of our dancers.

Our starters are both. Dancers and bulls. Martin, Tyron, Collins, and used to be Fredsy. Those guys could both dominate the LOS and get out and block LB's. You mostly have to go to the first round to get those types, though. Maybe McGovern and co. will get there, but as of right now, looks to me like we're losing the battle at the LOS.

W/o domination from the OL, we simply can't win. The team has once again been derailed w/o having a dominant running game to lean on. Because there's simply too many holes.

 

[GMO415]

$90 million RB who isn't utilized. Absurd.

 

[CB61]

If you think about it, the only time this Jerry run team has won is when the running game hid the problems. Weak D? No problem keep them off the field for as much as you can. If a D is undermanned, limit their exposure, and has the added effect of keeping them fresher.

So, what happened to the run game? Injuries, absolutely. However, we have another problem. We prefer dancers on the OL to bulls. What's the problem? Our backups tend to be understrength. Because of this preference. Remember when we kept trying to cut ol' Montrae Holland? Did our best to replace him because he wasn't much at blocking at the 2nd level. (That means getting off the LOS and blocking LB's and such). So, we replaced him. And then brought him back. Why? Because we kept bringing in our dancers. And say what you want about Montrae, wasn't anyone moving him off the LOS!!!! He was a stalwart on the line. We were better w/ him than w/ one of our dancers.

Our starters are both. Dancers and bulls. Martin, Tyron, Collins, and used to be Fredsy. Those guys could both dominate the LOS and get out and block LB's. You mostly have to go to the first round to get those types, though. Maybe McGovern and co. will get there, but as of right now, looks to me like we're losing the battle at the LOS.

W/o domination from the OL, we simply can't win. The team has once again been derailed w/o having a dominant running game to lean on. Because there's simply too many holes.

Well that and when we do pass it looks like Prescott is back to his old tricks holding the ball way too long instead of taking off and running that last sack he took Sunday was really sad so now I'm going to call him a sad sack LOL