What happened to Todd France being fired?

[plymkr]

Jerry Maguire vibes here.

You had me at hello

 

[CouchCoach]

Typically, the agents don't have rights to the clients in cases such as this. So I'm guessing that Dak elected to stay with France. France is a pain in the backside. Nobody likes dealing with him but hey, if the player is going to pick that guy, they know exactly who and what they are picking. It says a lot about the player as well IMO.

Actually, they do if they brought them into the firm. Ad agencies and law firms operate the same way when someone splits. It is not unusual because of the relationship with the client is usually the person leaving.

It's not as much about the employee as it is the client. They're not going to do well keeping a client that wants to go with the employee/partner.

 

[CouchCoach]

It was and still is funny to see posters blaming the agent like he's holding Prescott hostage. "It's all Todd's fault"!!

Have you ever seen any QB with 5 years in with the endorsement deals Prescott has?

France wasn't fired from CAA, they split, which is not unusual in that business. Some here predicted Prescott would fire him because he didn't get the deal done. He didn't get the deal done because Prescott didn't want the deal. That "I was going to sign but the deadline, you know, that deadline that Stephen said makes deals, ran out and my paint ball tournament ran a little long". That was a cover to make Prescott look better to the fans and it worked. However, those paying attention at the lack of a signing can connect the dots.

If I am a star athlete, I get France and send the message, I got Attila the Agent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It was and still is funny to see posters blaming the agent like he's holding Prescott hostage. "It's all Todd's fault"!!

Have you ever seen any QB with 5 years in with the endorsement deals Prescott has?

France wasn't fired from CAA, they split, which is not unusual in that business. Some here predicted Prescott would fire him because he didn't get the deal done. He didn't get the deal done because Prescott didn't want the deal. That "I was going to sign but the deadline, you know, that deadline that Stephen said makes deals, ran out and my paint ball tournament ran a little long". That was a cover to make Prescott look better to the fans and it worked. However, those paying attention at the lack of a signing can connect the dots.

If I am a star athlete, I get France and send the message, I got Attila the Agent.

I too am shocked at the blame France gets. It’s hilarious. He works for Dak not the other way around.

 

[Bullflop]

Regardless of what the media and those on this website say, the Prescott contract negotiations will be settled behind the scenes. The sooner we accept it and just sit back, waiting for the results, the better off we'll be. We're spectators in this matter and will continue to be 'til it's over. Let's just relax.

 

[Qcard]

It was and still is funny to see posters blaming the agent like he's holding Prescott hostage. "It's all Todd's fault"!!

Have you ever seen any QB with 5 years in with the endorsement deals Prescott has?

France wasn't fired from CAA, they split, which is not unusual in that business. Some here predicted Prescott would fire him because he didn't get the deal done. He didn't get the deal done because Prescott didn't want the deal. That "I was going to sign but the deadline, you know, that deadline that Stephen said makes deals, ran out and my paint ball tournament ran a little long". That was a cover to make Prescott look better to the fans and it worked. However, those paying attention at the lack of a signing can connect the dots.

If I am a star athlete, I get France and send the message, I got Attila the Agent.

This is not the case....I hope

I think most sensible fans know that Prescott turning down a deal based on the best advice from Todd France (The new Steinberg) is a great sign albeit not for the Cowboys.

I don't understand how "fans" can fault Prescott for doing what's in his family's best interest.

IMO, Prescott has Zero leverage after injury, it's a risk Prescott took playing on the Franchise Tag. He should do what Lawrence and Zeke did force the issue with hold out and threats of surgery.

I don't think Prescott will play on the Franchise Tag. Dakota Rayne Prescott will sit out till long term deal is done. Showing up at the Facility to rehab is just par for the course. I hope I AM WRONG.

 

[remdak]

I too am shocked at the blame France gets. It’s hilarious. He works for Dak not the other way around.

Yeah, its not like Dak is sitting at home saying "I would sign for $30MM/yr but Todd won't let me". France is just doing his job. If he just rolled over for owners, he would not get any new clients. If Dak wants to lower his asking price, he can do it if he wants (I am not saying he should or shouldn't) . DLaw finally stepped in to get his deal done in the end. That doesn't mean Dak will go this way as well.

 

[John813]

Yeah, its not like Dak is sitting at home saying "I would sign for $30MM/yr but Todd won't let me". France is just doing his job. If he just rolled over for owners, he would not get any new clients. If Dak wants to lower his asking price, he can do it if he wants (I am not saying he should or shouldn't) . DLaw finally stepped in to get his deal done in the end. That doesn't mean Dak will go this way as well.

Last year Dak had more important issues going on than wondering every day on how his contract negotiations were going. So, I'll be curious on as we move closer to when the tag will need to be applied on how fast they will try to get a deal done.
IMO both sides want to "stay in Dallas" but it's the term holding this up. SJ has shown he will try to hold as long as possible to "win" a deal and France is no different in that regard.

 

[CouchCoach]

This is not the case....I hope

I think most sensible fans know that Prescott turning down a deal based on the best advice from Todd France (The new Steinberg) is a great sign albeit not for the Cowboys.

I don't understand how "fans" can fault Prescott for doing what's in his family's best interest.

IMO, Prescott has Zero leverage after injury, it's a risk Prescott took playing on the Franchise Tag. He should do what Lawrence and Zeke did force the issue with hold out and threats of surgery.

I don't think Prescott will play on the Franchise Tag. Dakota Rayne Prescott will sit out till long term deal is done. Showing up at the Facility to rehab is just par for the course. I hope I AM WRONG.

I would be floored if they tagged him and he signed it before the draft. I think France might play more hardball if they tag him.

If they don't take a QB in this draft with a QB unsigned on the tag, the message is pretty clear, France/Prescott will get what they want.

The question is do they use that 1st pick on a QB with other more critical needs; however, if they got a good one, could be really interesting and a trade opportunity.

Ya know, I can't hammer the Joneses on this Prescott deal, QB's are going to be an ever increasingly expensive problem. Their problem is the Lawrence, Elliott and Cooper deals. Those fat contracts force them to be aces in the draft and they're not close to that.

 

[Qcard]

I would be floored if they tagged him and he signed it before the draft. I think France might play more hardball if they tag him.

If they don't take a QB in this draft with a QB unsigned on the tag, the message is pretty clear, France/Prescott will get what they want.

The question is do they use that 1st pick on a QB with other more critical needs; however, if they got a good one, could be really interesting and a trade opportunity.

Ya know, I can't hammer the Joneses on this Prescott deal, QB's are going to be an ever increasingly expensive problem. They're problem is the Lawrence, Elliott and Cooper deals. Those fat contracts force them to be aces in the draft and they're not close to that.

Agreed 1000%. I expect no give on either side.

I don't care what the critical needs are, without a QB NFL teams are nothing. If a QB worthy of 10th Overall pick is available it is a No brainer that the Cowboys have to take the QB. In fact based on the Rams and Eagles flipping QBs in spite of Cap hell for a run, I am in fair of drafting a QB in top 100 picks even if Prescott signs long term deal.

Savvy GMs are proving Cap Hell is a myth

 

[jaythecowboy]

You never read an official firing of France. It's your fault for believing all the liars out there.

I didn't say I believed it. I was calling out the people who said he got fired last year.

 

[CouchCoach]

Agreed 1000%. I expect no give on either side.

I don't care what the critical needs are, without a QB NFL teams are nothing. If a QB worthy of 10th Overall pick is available it is a No brainer that the Cowboys have to take the QB. In fact based on the Rams and Eagles flipping QBs in spite of Cap hell for a run, I am in fair of drafting a QB in top 100 picks even if Prescott signs long term deal.

Savvy GMs are proving Cap Hell is a myth

Pick your QB before you need him is the GB way. Pisses off the QB1 but they're all about the team. Favre wouldn't even acknowledge Rodgers presence in his first year.

PHL tried a little bit of that but I don't see the same results. Hurts is a good guy, not a great NFL QB.

As of right now, I would say the front office of the Cowboys is smarter than PHL and LAR, they both gave their brides new rings and then decided they were too ugly to keep around.

 

[CouchCoach]

You never read an official firing of France. It's your fault for believing all the liars out there.

Liars? They might have been talking about the CAA/France split or predicting that Prescott would fire him but I don't think they were lying.

 

[JoeKing]

Liars? They might have been talking about the CAA/France split or predicting that Prescott would fire him but I don't think they were lying.

If someone is saying France got fired, yet he's still Dak's agent then in my book, that someone is a liar.

 

[JoeKing]

I didn't say I believed it. I was calling out the people who said he got fired last year.

You indicated you were under the impression he got fired last year. It seems petty of you to be calling out people who said he got fired last year when we are 3 months into this year, but hey, if that's how you operate, you do you.

 

[CouchCoach]

If someone is saying France got fired, yet he's still Dak's agent then in my book, that someone is a liar.

What if they were referring to the CAA split?

 

[JoeKing]

What if they were referring to the CAA split?

That's not what I'm calling people a liar about so if they were talking about the CAA split then that not applicable.

 

[Qcard]

Pick your QB before you need him is the GB way. Pisses off the QB1 but they're all about the team. Favre wouldn't even acknowledge Rodgers presence in his first year.

PHL tried a little bit of that but I don't see the same results. Hurts is a good guy, not a great NFL QB.

As of right now, I would say the front office of the Cowboys is smarter than PHL and LAR, they both gave their brides new rings and then decided they were too ugly to keep around.

What Favre did was stupid to include the Jets and Vikings fiasco, though Favre being the a good guy, has in ways apologized for those things.

If a rookie QB affects your QB1 psyche, then good riddance. I have no patience for week minded QB1s. QB1s mind set is to help your team win and always put out good tape.

Any QB1 looking over there should or not confident enough to help a young player or professional enough to compete is NOT a QB1 any more...

 

[atlantacowboy]

Everyone was saying France got fired last year for mishandling Dak's contract negotiations. So why is he still negotiating now?

He botched Dak's 2019 contact negotiation and had his client play for 400k that year. He basically rolled the dice with his clients health and financial welfare. That doesn't play well at a good agency like CAA. So they "parted ways". The baffling part is that Dak stuck with Todd whose done nothing for him.

 

[Jarv]

It's a business now more so than ever, takes the fun out of the game.