What if Bobby lights it up next year?

[DaBoys4Life]

This is true.

But, if you break it down like this:

Skill positions are just that, skill.

You don't need to go to LSU or Oklahoma to know that it takes the right combination of agility, power, and elusiveness to get away from a guy. You can't teach a running back speed, elusiveness, or agility. You can't teach a defensive back instincts.

The draft is a faulty measuring stick because logic would dictate that players from bigger schools would be better players. Since that clearly isn't the case, this brand of logic is fallible. Especially when you're seeing more players that don't come from powerhouses making larger impacts than their powerhouse counterparts. A few comparisons include:

Randy Moss over Torry Holt
Tony Romo over Carson Palmer
DeMarcus Ware over Shawne Merriman

Smaller schools can generate as much gifted athletes than the bigger ones. It's just that the bigger ones get more exposure.

That's why you're seeing all of these small time players having a chip on their shoulder.

Ray Lewis > DWare
Peyton Manning > Romo
Reggie Wayne > Moss

 

[burmafrd]

If you think Wayne is better then moss then you really are out of it.
Ray Lewis frankly has been over rated. He is better then Ware but just a touch and not any more.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

If you think Wayne is better then moss then you really are out of it.
Ray Lewis frankly has been over rated. He is better then Ware but just a touch and not any more.

Well i don't consider Moss to much off a WR just the biggest deep threat ever. Gives up on plays isn't that good of a blocker and needs to be coached up. I don't forget the season at Oakland that so many people write off. His career at minnestoa he was lined up across one of the best WR in the game.

 

[KDWilliams85]

Well i don't consider Moss to much off a WR just the biggest deep threat ever. Gives up on plays isn't that good of a blocker and needs to be coached up. I don't forget the season at Oakland that so many people write off. His career at minnestoa he was lined up across one of the best WR in the game.

You can translate my argument into the professional level too.

How many players look so much better because they have a premiere player next to them? Randy Moss may have had Cris Carter in Minnesota but that didn't negate his Pro Bowl rookie season.

If Ray Lewis can dominate without a notoriously difficult defense behind him, then you can say he's better than Ware. Baltimore has had a top tier defense since their Super Bowl run.

And whoever said Reggie Wayne is better than Randy Moss needs their head checked. Peyton Manning can make any receiver look good. Check Brandon Stokley or whatever his name is. Tom Brady made Wes Welker into a "legitimate" 100 reception player.

Give anybody enough time and patience and they will murder you.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Well i don't consider Moss to much off a WR just the biggest deep threat ever. Gives up on plays isn't that good of a blocker and needs to be coached up. I don't forget the season at Oakland that so many people write off. His career at minnestoa he was lined up across one of the best WR in the game.

Wow, this is almost as ridiculous as the notion that Carpenter can play well next season. Moss may have tanked that Oakland season, as many unhappy players do in bad situations, but there's no way this guy can't be considered in the top 3 of the NFL currently. His stats last year blew the roof off.

 

[the kid 05]

Ray Lewis > DWare
Peyton Manning > Romo
Reggie Wayne > Moss

Santana or Randy, because if its Santana i will agree but Randy, not a snowflakes time in hell

 

[masomenos]

Give him the starting Mo backer spot for the next 7-8 years.

I think he's just the type of player that needs to get on the field and stay on the field before he really gets going. By the end of his rookie season he looked like he was finally "getting" the OLB spot. He played quick and aggressive. I think he overthinks things for awhile until he can play instinctual.

I agree 100%.

 

[David276]

yawn not going to happen. it would increase his trade value i guess. is he really going to start over ellis, ware, thomas, james?

 

[masomenos]

yawn not going to happen. it would increase his trade value i guess. is he really going to start over ellis, ware, thomas, james?

Considering Thomas missed 11 games last year, yeah it's possible he could end up getting significant playing time as Thomas' backup.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Big "What If", I know.

But allow your imagination to wander. Imagine Bobby plays very well next year in a limited roll. What do you do? Do you hang on to him and hope he's finally showing something and will continue to improve and can start in 2009, OR do you trade him now that his value is actually up.

My gut would be to keep him, you're already paying him and he's cheap but imagine we can get a 3rd or even a 2nd for him, do you take the money and run?

Anything is possible, but I would not lose sleep wondering if this is going to happen.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Give him the starting Mo backer spot for the next 7-8 years.

I think he's just the type of player that needs to get on the field and stay on the field before he really gets going. By the end of his rookie season he looked like he was finally "getting" the OLB spot. He played quick and aggressive. I think he overthinks things for awhile until he can play instinctual.

That is correct. You don't trade away someone who finally gets it.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

CowboyZone will be one big happy site.

 

[Kilyin]

Ray Lewis > DWare

Hi, you're on crack. I'll take Ware over Ray Lewis any day.

 

[the kid 05]

Hi, you're on crack. I'll take Ware over Ray Lewis any day.

should have been Lewis>Bradie James not Ware as they play different positons

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Give him the starting Mo backer spot for the next 7-8 years.

I think he's just the type of player that needs to get on the field and stay on the field before he really gets going. By the end of his rookie season he looked like he was finally "getting" the OLB spot. He played quick and aggressive. I think he overthinks things for awhile until he can play instinctual.

I got ripped for saying this last year.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

#1: I agree with Theo. If he plays well, when he finally gets some actual time on the field (Like he did toward the end of the 06 season and was showing strides and promise) then i'd be glad to continue to keep Bobby here.

#2: As far as being an all around reciever goes...yes, Wayne is a MUCH better reciever.

Randy, by far, is the better deep threat, but that's really the only legit spot in his game. He runs deep, very well, but that is about all he does very well.

Where as Wayne can block, he can go deep, he'll run short patterns, he'll take the slants, he'll go over the middle and get his teeth knocked out. Moss, however, will not do those things.

I'll take Reggie Wayne on my team any day of the week, and twice on Sundays, over Randy Moss.

That said, I still think Moss is a darn great reciever, with talent, I just think Wayne brings you a much more complete package.