What if we can do this?

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big dog cowboy said:
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Perfect!
 
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AKATheRake said:
Dak finally signs his tag as Mahomes does not get a new deal done prior to the tag signing period deadline.

We have Dalton as a backup right now as we speak and are able to find a trade partner for Dak. We know we can get 2 first rounds picks from our future trade partner that values Dak as a young superstar and leader. We also know that Dalton basically signed on for $3 million with real difficult incentives put in place to make $7 million.

We talk to Cam Newton's camp who says's his shoulder was cleared last season and good to go but the Lisfranc was the problem. However it is now fully healed being off since the 3rd week of last season and they are willing to do a 2 year $40,000,000 deal, $10 million guaranteed. That's $23,000, 000 to the QB position for 2020 as opposed to $35 to $43 million.

We then have Cam starting, Dalton backing up and 3 total 1st round pick in next years draft that has Trevor Lawrence and another solid QB class. Furthermore, if we do go far into the playoffs with Cam we can draft young impact players to fill the positions that held us back from taking it all.

Dak did bum his throwing shoulder at the end of the season so who knows there too healthwise. We were already a bit worried about his deep ball overall. Below is an interesting article ranking all QB's arm strength pro and college. Cam and Dalton are both ranked higher.

http://www.pass2win.com/ball-velocity-exposing-the-power-qb.html


My only question doing this is what would it do to the locker rooms moral? Newton has been to a Superbowl and is one of the leagues freak athletes. Other than Lamar Jackson, he's probably the most freakish QB in the league and 30 years old.

Cam's character off the field may not be as well reputed as Dak's but Cam definitely is a family man and a former 1st overall pick. He has never gotten to play with such weapons on offense also. 3 stud WR's, one of the leagues best o-lines, a blooming young TE and a perennial rushing leader all bundled in 1 offense.

What's everyone's take?
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If that scenario took place we wouldn't need 3 1st because we would have the 1st round pick at #1 with a 1-15 season.
 
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I understand it is not about the money but the years.

I'm not all about saving cap, I am about winning. I also know we will be signing Dak eventually once everyone compromises on the years.

What is interesting is having all of those draft picks with such a young team and all that cap space without such a drop off at the QB position.
 
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irishline said:
What team has two first round picks next year that want to trade both of them for Dak? I would think you would get a first rounder for two different years, not two in one year about the only teams I see with two are the Jags and the Dolphins, one just drafted their QB and the other is in the tank for Lawrence. (Not that you are getting two firsts for him anyway)

As for the rest of it...

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I am saying if we could get two first rounders from a team like the Jags would you not do it?
 
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Again, I am not saying do it, I am asking if we could get all of that would any of us?

To me if it didn't destroy this teams moral, which I do feel it might. That would be a very good haul.
 
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JoeyBoy718 said:
Here's my plan:

1. Flip Dak for Aaron Rodgers and a 7th.
2. Flip Rodgers and a 7th for Deshaun Watson.
3. Flip Watson for Russell Wilson and a 5th.
4. Flip Wilson and a 5th for Lamar Jackson and a 4th.
5. Flip Jackson and a 4th for Patrick Mahomes.

You've just traded Dak for Mahomes straight up.
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What I posted was nowhere near as unrealistic as that. That's hillarious though wasting so much time writing something so unrealistic and non relative.
 
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AKATheRake said:
Dak finally signs his tag as Mahomes does not get a new deal done prior to the tag signing period deadline.

We have Dalton as a backup right now as we speak and are able to find a trade partner for Dak. We know we can get 2 first rounds picks from our future trade partner that values Dak as a young superstar and leader. We also know that Dalton basically signed on for $3 million with real difficult incentives put in place to make $7 million.

We talk to Cam Newton's camp who says's his shoulder was cleared last season and good to go but the Lisfranc was the problem. However it is now fully healed being off since the 3rd week of last season and they are willing to do a 2 year $40,000,000 deal, $10 million guaranteed. That's $23,000, 000 to the QB position for 2020 as opposed to $35 to $43 million.

We then have Cam starting, Dalton backing up and 3 total 1st round pick in next years draft that has Trevor Lawrence and another solid QB class. Furthermore, if we do go far into the playoffs with Cam we can draft young impact players to fill the positions that held us back from taking it all.
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What does Mahomes have to do with this? He still on his rookie deal and they can pick up his 5th year option next year.

Are you sure we can get two first round picks for Dak? Not only that, you expect to get them from either the Jaguars or Dolphins? How else do you expect to have 3 first round picks in 2021?
 

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We need a vaccine for this virus soon. People are going wacky being cooped up inside all this time.
 
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Flamma said:
What does Mahomes have to do with this? He still on his rookie deal and they can pick up his 5th year option next year.

Are you sure we can get two first round picks for Dak? Not only that, you expect to get them from either the Jaguars or Dolphins? How else do you expect to have 3 first round picks in 2021?
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If Mahomes signs a new deal before the July 15 franchise signing deadline than Dak's franchise tag amount end up even higher against the cap as the top 5 salaries at the position would average out higher than they currently do.

Mahomes undoubtedly would become the highest player in the league with is new deal and deservedly so.
 
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Flamma said:
What does Mahomes have to do with this? He still on his rookie deal and they can pick up his 5th year option next year.

Are you sure we can get two first round picks for Dak? Not only that, you expect to get them from either the Jaguars or Dolphins? How else do you expect to have 3 first round picks in 2021?
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I don't expect anything from the Dolphins and it was hypothetical if we had a deal where we could get the 2, 1st's and that deal with Newton would we be opposed to doing it? We obviously have a 1st next year. The jags have 2 firsts and need a QB. Coughlin doesn't have another year to tank before he is let go of his job as GM over there, nor does that coaching staff.

Even a 2022 1st rounder to go with the 2021 1st rounder would be nice.
 
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