What is it about Coughlin's teams?

[yimyammer]

I know I must be nuts to think I can have a rational conversation about anything Giant related today, but I'm gonna give it a go anyway

I was thinking about Coughlin as a coach and he's been pretty darn successful and seems to be able to field teams that rise to the occasion, especially when they are underdogs. He comes from the Parcells coaching tree, was part of the Giants success in the 80's and beat Belichick twice in the Super Bowl. He had the Jaguars playing the best ball they've ever played when he was coaching and he had the big upset of the Elway lead Broncos back in the late 90's. His teams seem to find a way to keep games close and win them in the end

His teams seem to play with a surly edge and peak at the end of the year when it matters. It seems while he has been at New York, he has been able to manage injuries well and get the most out of his roster, managing the personnel in such a way that his teams have the full roster ready to contribute by the end of the regular season

I'm not saying he's perfect or that I am any kind of expert, so perhaps my observations are way off, but it appears he has a way of creating a gritty, tough team with an edge that competes well in the post season under difficult circumstances.

Assuming I'm not way off base here, what is it? What are he and the Giants doing to field a team that seems to rise to the occasion and peak when it matters most?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

For starters he doesn't ice his kicker.

 

[yimyammer]

For starters he doesn't ice his kicker.

he sure likes to chew their *** out though

 

[cajuncocoa]

Maybe that he goes about his business quietly and effectively. Even the whole Tebow/Sanchez thing worked in their favor this year...no distractions. That's not anything he's doing, but it helps when the media leaves a team alone.

 

[ufcrules1]

I know I must be nuts to think I can have a rational conversation about anything Giant related today, but I'm gonna give it a go anyway

I was thinking about Coughlin as a coach and he's been pretty darn successful and seems to be able to field teams that rise to the occasion, especially when they are underdogs. He comes from the Parcells coaching tree, was part of the Giants success in the 80's and beat Belichick twice in the Super Bowl. He had the Jaguars playing the best ball they've ever played when he was coaching and he had the big upset of the Elway lead Broncos back in the late 90's. His teams seem to find a way to keep games close and win them in the end

His teams seem to play with a surly edge and peak at the end of the year when it matters. It seems while he has been at New York, he has been able to manage injuries well and get the most out of his roster, managing the personnel in such a way that his teams have the full roster ready to contribute by the end of the regular season

I'm not saying he's perfect or that I am any kind of expert, so perhaps my observations are way off, but it appears he has a way of creating a gritty, tough team with an edge that competes well in the post season under difficult circumstances.

Assuming I'm not way off base here, what is it? What are he and the Giants doing to field a team that seems to rise to the occasion and peak when it matters most?

I don't know a whole lot about him but I read Michael Strahans book and he said he was a super strict coach. Like if you got to a meeting 5 minutes early... he would lock you out and there was no way you were getting in. He wanted his players there 10 minutes early at least. Also, he doesn't care who you are.. if you show up late to practice or meetings he will make an example out of you on game day. You might sit the first quarter or even the whole game.(I remember him doing this to Bradshaw and Plax) He demands excellence and respect.

 

[yimyammer]

Maybe that he goes about his business quietly and effectively. Even the whole Tebow/Sanchez thing worked in their favor this year...no distractions. That's not anything he's doing, but it helps when the media leaves a team alone.

No kidding, I'm so damn sick of the TMZ sideshow that surrounds the Cowboys

 

[Doomsday101]

Funny thing is Coughlin has also been in the hot seat in NY more than once. Amazing how you can go from fans wanting you fired to being the smartest coach in the game. :laugh2:

 

[yimyammer]

Funny thing is Coughlin has also been in the hot seat in NY more than once. Amazing how you can go from fans wanting you fired to being the smartest coach in the game. :laugh2:

yeah, but the overwhelming majority of fans don't know squat about football (including your truly), although I wish they had gotten their wish and run him out of town when Tiki left

 

[jday]

I know I must be nuts to think I can have a rational conversation about anything Giant related today, but I'm gonna give it a go anyway

I was thinking about Coughlin as a coach and he's been pretty darn successful and seems to be able to field teams that rise to the occasion, especially when they are underdogs. He comes from the Parcells coaching tree, was part of the Giants success in the 80's and beat Belichick twice in the Super Bowl. He had the Jaguars playing the best ball they've ever played when he was coaching and he had the big upset of the Elway lead Broncos back in the late 90's. His teams seem to find a way to keep games close and win them in the end

His teams seem to play with a surly edge and peak at the end of the year when it matters. It seems while he has been at New York, he has been able to manage injuries well and get the most out of his roster, managing the personnel in such a way that his teams have the full roster ready to contribute by the end of the regular season

I'm not saying he's perfect or that I am any kind of expert, so perhaps my observations are way off, but it appears he has a way of creating a gritty, tough team with an edge that competes well in the post season under difficult circumstances.

Assuming I'm not way off base here, what is it? What are he and the Giants doing to field a team that seems to rise to the occasion and peak when it matters most?

I couldn't say...but I assure you, you are not alone in your observation. That's one of the factors that concerns me about tonights game; I think right now because of his experience, Coughlin is the better coach. On the flipside, I think the Cowboys are the better overall team. The problem over the last several years is that all facets of the Cowboys game have been inconsistent and very rarely have we seen every player play up to his ability for an entire game at that same time. But, this is a new year and Garrett has an opportunity to digest all of his mistakes from last year and learn from them...tonight we find out if he truly learned from his first full year as Head Coach.

 

[Doomsday101]

yeah, but the overwhelming majority of fans don't know squat about football (including your truly), although I wish they had gotten their wish and run him out of town when Tiki left

I don't think any of the coaches in the NFL are stupid, you don't get to the NFL not understanding the game. The key is getting the most out of your players and at times Coughlin has had players he had a hard time with and those teams did not fare well. He has had teams who tanked on him late in the season but he has also won big.

HC has the duty of taking 53 players and molding them into 1 team and it is not always easy with some of the headcases that play in the NFL and the big salary attached to them. In the old days before caps it was not a big deal to send a guy packing now when you do the team pays a price

 

[InmanRoshi]

I'll drive shotgun on the anti-Giants mythology bandwagon, but he definitely has a mentally tough and resilient football team. He shares the same sports psychology consultants that Saban uses at Alabama, and has been using them since his Jacksonville days. Garrett just hired one of their founders full time on the Cowboys staff .... so I certainly hope that's what it is.

 

[ufcrules1]

Funny thing is Coughlin has also been in the hot seat in NY more than once. Amazing how you can go from fans wanting you fired to being the smartest coach in the game. :laugh2:

Yup, earlier in the year last year a ton of fans wanted him out of there. Then things turned around and the rest is history.

 

[flashback]

Damned if I know. I tend to give credit to his assistants, like Spagnuouluou and Gilbride, players who are leaders, and a very successful player personnel department.

You can't convince me that Tom Coughlin isn't an idiot. I watched a training camp report where a camera followed him around. He spent 10 minutes trying to throw a crumpled-up piece of paper into a trash can from 3 feet away. He couldn't pour water out of boot with the instructions written on the heel.* And yet he's one of the most successful coaches in the modern era.

Go figure.

*hyperbole

 

[jayhouston12]

For starters he doesn't ice his kicker.

and he constantly has his teeth implanted in the hinepotts of the rest of the players

 

[tupperware]

There's your story of the Giants.

 

[jayhouston12]

There's your story of the Giants.

 

[TheCoolFan]

I don't know but he owns everyone's favorite coach Belichick. If they play again, I should put a ton of money on Coughlin's team winning

 

[InmanRoshi]

I don't know but he owns everyone's favorite coach Belichick. If they play again, I should put a ton of money on Coughlin's team winning

The Giants matchup uniquely well against the Patriots. Great defense ends can pressure Brady to get him off his spot and disrupt rhythm without bringing the blitz and dropping back 7 in coverage. The Giants WRs can exploit the Patriots poor secondary. And the Patriots don't have wide receivers who can exploit the Giants secondary weaknesses outside the hash marks.

 

[Idgit]

For starters he doesn't ice his kicker.

Not sure if serious, but have you seen the stats where iced kickers outperformed non-iced kickers last year by a semi-significant margin?

 

[fifaguy]

Not sure if serious, but have you seen the stats where iced kickers outperformed non-iced kickers last year by a semi-significant margin?

gotta give a big edge to the giants in coaching. maybe rob ryan will help save the day tonite - last year he was more mouth than results, maybe he 'll do better now that he says less..