What is really going on with injuries?

[johneric8]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

 

[thunderpimp91]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

It was a bye week, you wont be getting much info. Collins will be back. Not sure Tanks injury was ever supposed to be a quick turnaround? Dak is fine, and it has been reported as such.

I'm not sure we really have a lack of information here. Feels like some misinformation/assumptions along with the fact that we just had a bye week where guys are off doing their own thing.

 

[phildadon86]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

Not really secrecy. We are coming off of a bye week.

 

[Stash]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

There have certainly been players that have been stashed on IR longer than required but that’s been a conscious act of roster shuffling. They’ve been winning so there simply hasn’t been any urgency to change things.

Couple that with a bye week vacation and you’re not going to get any news. This will likely be a big week regarding injury updates, roster moves, and potential trades or cuts.

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

They have said Tank and Gallimore still need more time, With DLaw chances are you are looking mid Nov.
Joseph should be at practice this week
Gallup off the IR should be at practice this week.
Dak both Jerry and McCarthy have said they are very optimistic that he will not miss the game.

This has been a bye week so players have not had any practice time, they will be starting things back up today so I'm sure we will know more. They did say Dak would not practice to start the week but expected to be working out in practice later in the week.

 

[thunderpimp91]

There have certainly been players that have been stashed on IR longer than required but that’s been a conscious act of roster shuffling. They’ve been winning so there simply hasn’t been any urgency to change things.

Couple that with a bye week vacation and you’re not going to get any news. This will likely be a big week regarding injury updates, roster moves, and potential trades or cuts.

That's a really good point too. I'm sure the Cowboys are not rushing to get some of these guys back right away as that's 3/4 players they would have to cut or trade plus any additional roster space they need to make in case they try to acquire someone at the deadline. No need to rush back a guy like Gallop. Let him fully heal, even with an extra week, and let the roster situation take care of itself over time. There will be other injuries that you can shuffle guys around on the IR.

 

[johneric8]

There have certainly been players that have been stashed on IR longer than required but that’s been a conscious act of roster shuffling. They’ve been winning so there simply hasn’t been any urgency to change things.

Couple that with a bye week vacation and you’re not going to get any news. This will likely be a big week regarding injury updates, roster moves, and potential trades or cuts.

It just feels like they're taking their time inserting guys back in, I guess i'm not use to such patience... I think I'm eager to see Bossman Fat because I know once he gets his feet wet he will be a good one in my opinion... Big Mike is vague though, you can't deny that..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I do wonder how many of these guys are healthy enough to play if it was the playoffs......from my perspective 5-1 affords you extra time for guys to come back.

But I also wonder is some of this on McCarthy and his coaching? Does he look at this as a time for guys like Steele(I know Collins was actually suspended) and Cedric Wilson to get more reps? Does he see this as a way to make his team better in the long haul by letting younger guys get meaningful reps now?

 

[conner01]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

We haven’t had any practices since those who came off Ir came back
McCarthy said Dlaw and Gallimore would be a few more weeks

 

[Stash]

That's a really good point too. I'm sure the Cowboys are not rushing to get some of these guys back right away as that's 3/4 players they would have to cut or trade plus any additional roster space they need to make in case they try to acquire someone at the deadline. No need to rush back a guy like Gallop. Let him fully heal, even with an extra week, and let the roster situation take care of itself over time. There will be other injuries that you can shuffle guys around on the IR.

I’m expecting quite a bit of news and activity this week from Wednesday onward. I think the bye week provides the perfect time for evaluation and making difficult roster decisions. And in my opinion that’s just what the team waited for and we will see what they’ve decided to do for the rest of the season.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It just feels like they're taking their time inserting guys back in, I guess i'm not use to such patience... I think I'm eager to see Bossman Fat because I know once he gets his feet wet he will be a good one in my opinion... Big Mike is vague though, you can't deny that..

I had this feeling in the offseason and I'm gonna reiterate it here. I don't think Bossman will get any meaningful reps this year. That was before the injury. Diggs, Brown and Lewis are the corners.

 

[johneric8]

I had this feeling in the offseason and I'm gonna reiterate it here. I don't think Bossman will get any meaningful reps this year. That was before the injury. Diggs, Brown and Lewis are the corners.

Yeah, but once there is an injury and bossman shows he is amazing that can change right? Big Mike isn't afraid to roll with the new guy.... I watched Joseph in college, he is way more talented than both brown and lewis and he is a gamer... I feel like some of you are misjudging his abilities big time.

 

[Stash]

It just feels like they're taking their time inserting guys back in, I guess i'm not use to such patience... I think I'm eager to see Bossman Fat because I know once he gets his feet wet he will be a good one in my opinion... Big Mike is vague though, you can't deny that..

No doubt that he and the team are being intentionally vague. But I think it’s in part to keep these players and situations off the radar. I think that several could be back on the field already but the Cowboys at 5-1 are in no rush. And for that reason they don’t bring attention to it.

As for Joseph? I’m not expecting a lot from him any time soon. The last I saw of him in preseason it was apparent that he needed work.

Gallimore is the one guy I’m most looking forward to seeing added to the mix. And of course I want to see how Lawrence looks when he returns. I think both could make a big difference in how the defense looks going forward.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah, but once there is an injury and bossman shows he is amazing that can change right? Big Mike isn't afraid to roll with the new guy.... I watched Joseph in college, he is way more talented than both brown and lewis and he is a gamer... I feel like some of you are misjudging his abilities big time.

I'm not misjudging him I'm just not putting that hype on him unfairly. He's a rookie and didn't have the training camp he needed in order to have success right away.

Let's remember he didn't play much college football. Two years at a high level....Did you see him in preseason? He's not ready.

But my opinion that Joseph won't play much this year isn't just dependent on him. I don't think he'll even get the chance unless someone gets hurt. If someone gets hurt then maybe he will get that shot?

 

[johneric8]

No doubt that he and the team are being intentionally vague. But I think it’s in part to keep these players and situations off the radar. I think that several could be back on the field already but the Cowboys at 5-1 are in no rush. And for that reason they don’t bring attention to it.

As for Joseph? I’m not expecting a lot from him any time soon. The last I saw of him in preseason it was apparent that he needed work.

Gallimore is the one guy I’m most looking forward to seeing added to the mix. And of course I want to see how Lawrence looks when he returns. I think both could make a big difference in how the defense looks going forward.

I guess I'm not use to such clever work done by our head coach, Big Mike really makes Jason look silly in that regard....

I agree on Gallimore, that is another one I forgot about.. He should be back after the bye, but someone I feel like it's not going to happen.. I mean, are they intentionally sitting gallup in hopes of trading him? lots of craziness going on here.

 

[Ranching]

I thought this would be a good topic of discussion because I find myself perplexed and the lack of information regarding players and their health updates. At this point in time, I guess it's a little gamesmanship with Big Mike with some of these guys.

I mean, Tank was suppose to be coming back soon but we here nada-
Bossman Fat should be good to go, but we here very little except for he's off IR.
Collins after being reinstated we're still not sure if he is playing.
Kazee, well, this is too be expected, self inflicted wounds, but could he play?
Gallup? Could there be a better kept secret to what is really going on with him?
Dak- Calf strain, total lack of info on that....

The list goes on and on.. I don't remember a Cowboy's team in the past with this much
secrecy going on.... I'm starting to feel like Big Mike is the king of the Poker face...

I guess I missed something, but who or is Bossman fats and why?

 

[johneric8]

I'm not misjudging him I'm just not putting that hype on him unfairly. He's a rookie and didn't have the training camp he needed in order to have success right away.

Let's remember he didn't play much college football. Two years at a high level....Did you see him in preseason? He's not ready.

But my opinion that Joseph won't play much this year isn't just dependent on him. I don't think he'll even get the chance unless someone gets hurt. If someone gets hurt then maybe he will get that shot?

A couple of things, I saw him in camp, live and in person and looked like the best corner on that field! He didn't look awesome in pre season, but there is no gameplanning there so I have to throw that out the window. In my opinion he is the kind of player that will excel after a couple of games where he knows his role.

I think you're wrong in terms of Bossman getting snaps this year, in fact I think your way off base considering they have played Canady quite a bit in certain packages... Bossman will be put in the game as soon as he is able, and to assume that he won't show something is unfair. We should be neutral in his assessment at this point in time, but everything I've see in terms of his abilities tells me he will get good fast.

 

[johneric8]

I guess I missed something, but who or is Bossman fats and why?

That is Kelvin Joselph's alter ego in his Rap career... Everyone on the team calls him bossman, that is what he prefers..
Hell, if I had a nickname like that I would probably use it as well! As @Risen Star has said "Dope Rapper"....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

A couple of things, I saw him in camp, live and in person and looked like the best corner on that field! He didn't look awesome in pre season, but there is no gameplanning there so I have to throw that out the window. In my opinion he is the kind of player that will excel after a couple of games where he knows his role.

I think you're wrong in terms of Bossman getting snaps this year, in fact I think your way off base considering they have played Canady quite a bit in certain packages... Bossman will be put in the game as soon as he is able, and to assume that he won't show something is unfair. We should be neutral in his assessment at this point in time, but everything I've see in terms of his abilities tells me he will get good fast.

Oh if you think he will get Canday type reps then I'm in agreement there. I think he'll get out there on the field. I just think it will be less than Lewis, Brown and Diggs.

 

[johneric8]

Oh if you think he will get Canday type reps then I'm in agreement there. I think he'll get out there on the field. I just think it will be less than Lewis, Brown and Diggs.

This is exactly what I believe, but I also think he has the measurables and big game talent to take on a much larger role after a few games.. Remember, Bossman is more of an pesty type player with a major attitude. If anything, he will bring more nastiness to the defense and this is something that can only benefit our team. Look, I could be wrong on Fat, but I think many of you aren't seeing his value. This coaching staff is much better at getting players up to speed and productive, we're not use to that around here.