What is Spencer Really Worth In A Trade?

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Let's assume that a team is willing to give Spencer a new contract and trade for him? What is fair compensation for the trade?

I personally see a 3rd rounder as fair for both teams. If it is a really low third, I would say a 3rd and a 6th would be fair.
 

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Verdict;5043645 said:
Let's assume that a team is willing to give Spencer a new contract and trade for him? What is fair compensation for the trade?

I personally see a 3rd rounder as fair for both teams. If it is a really low third, I would say a 3rd and a 6th would be fair.

if i were jerry i would pay for his airfare to the new city that gives me a 3 and 7 for spencer
 

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I think a 3rd is too low. He's still got five good years left in him, IMO, and he can play OLB in a 34. I think he's worth a 2nd if his contract is renegotiated down to something a bit more reasonable.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5043666 said:
I think a 3rd is too low. He's still got five good years left in him, IMO, and he can play OLB in a 34. I think he's worth a 2nd if his contract is renegotiated down to something a bit more reasonable.

I agree. I think he is worth a 2nd rounder and I also think someone would give a 2nd rounder up. However, I SERIOUSLY doubt he will ever be traded. This is Jerry's team. Don't forget it.
 

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Verdict;5043645 said:
Let's assume that a team is willing to give Spencer a new contract and trade for him? What is fair compensation for the trade?

I personally see a 3rd rounder as fair for both teams. If it is a really low third, I would say a 3rd and a 6th would be fair.

First, you'd have to take into account that any trade that took place would also include a long term deal for Spencer. No team would trade much for a one year deal. That seems pretty obvious to some, but others aren't aware of that, so I figured I put it out there.

That said, If Spencer got to free agency this year, he very likely would have gotten a higher contract than any of the other guys playing the same/comparable positions. This includes Kruger, Dumervil, Bennett and Avril as well as guys like Freeney, Abraham and Osi.

It's fairly common ( and understandable to a degree) to have a "grass is greener " atitude about our FAs vs guys on other teams, but Spencer has proven over a number of years to be an exceptional player, particularly in run stopping. He has also been a threat in the pass rush. Even though his sack numbers only recently improved this past year, he did provide consistent pressure, which is more important than many think.

Now that I've finished my "In Defense of Spencer" sermon, I'd say that he's worth a 2nd rounder. Anything less than that, and it's not worth losing him.
 

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His value this close to the draft is nowhere near a 2nd round pick. Maybe closer to training camp he's around that, but you wouldn't find a team willing to part with a 2nd for Spencer. And I am someone who likes him a lot as a player and think he is underappreciated here.
 

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If we had let Spencer test the free agency waters and told him to give us a call so we could meet or slightly exceed his best offer what do you think we could have resigned him for in this buyer's market?
 

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Why do people overvalue players from other teams and undervalue Cowboy players?

Spencer is a pro bowl edge rusher. Those bring big money on the open market and he would have to bring big compensation to the team or they wouldn't trade him.

Spencer is also strong as an ox and stout in the run game, as well as being a good locker room influence.

No idea why Cowboy fans want him gone. Other teams would love to have the guy.
 

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Verdict;5043701 said:
If we had let Spencer test the free agency waters and told him to give us a call so we could meet or slightly exceed his best offer what do you think we could have resigned him for in this buyer's market?

Somewhere between Paul Kruger (5/40.5 $20 guaranteed) and Connor Barwin (6/36/$8)
 

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On the high end, a second rounder. Realistically, probably a 3rd and a 5th.
 

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Verdict;5043645 said:
Let's assume that a team is willing to give Spencer a new contract and trade for him? What is fair compensation for the trade?

I personally see a 3rd rounder as fair for both teams. If it is a really low third, I would say a 3rd and a 6th would be fair.

We would be luck to get a 3rd....

That's the highest any team I believe will dish for him.
 

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I really don't understand it. I get the "expensive" part

But this guy is a beast. He's never injured and has played more snaps then anybody. I still think he might be our best defensive player. We are not talking about Greg Ellis here.

Unless we draft Ansah, or Star we cannot afford to let go of Spence.
 

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i dont understand the logic of him being so expensive, yet fetching such low round offers from you guys.
 

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If Spencer hit Free Agency, he would of been the highest rated DE/OLB . I'm not sure how much that is worth but I wouldn't trade him for less than a 1st.
 

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AsthmaField;5043704 said:
Why do people overvalue players from other teams and undervalue Cowboy players?

Spencer is a pro bowl edge rusher. Those bring big money on the open market and he would have to bring big compensation to the team or they wouldn't trade him.

Spencer is also strong as an ox and stout in the run game, as well as being a good locker room influence.

No idea why Cowboy fans want him gone. Other teams would love to have the guy.

Nice job writing what I tried to. You pulled it off in about 1/10th of the words as well.
 

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AsthmaField;5043704 said:
Why do people overvalue players from other teams and undervalue Cowboy players?

Spencer is a pro bowl edge rusher. Those bring big money on the open market and he would have to bring big compensation to the team or they wouldn't trade him.

Spencer is also strong as an ox and stout in the run game, as well as being a good locker room influence.

No idea why Cowboy fans want him gone. Other teams would love to have the guy.

Thank you, been saying this for weeks. The front office obviously values him highly, hence the back to back tags.
 

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AsthmaField;5043704 said:
Why do people overvalue players from other teams and undervalue Cowboy players?

Spencer is a pro bowl edge rusher. Those bring big money on the open market and he would have to bring big compensation to the team or they wouldn't trade him.

Spencer is also strong as an ox and stout in the run game, as well as being a good locker room influence.

No idea why Cowboy fans want him gone. Other teams would love to have the guy.

The short answer is 'he doesn't get as many sacks as they expected him to get, and now they're invested in him not being very good.'

I don't understand it, either.
 
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