What is Tony Romo?

[Verdict]

typical knee jerk thread. I think Romo is going to be good- not Brady or Aikman or Staubach great. I think maybe better then Danny White. Who was pretty good.

Why do you consider this to be a knee jerk thread? I thought my original post which started this thread was fairly neutral on Romo.

I still believe that it is critical that the Cowboys' organization needs to accurately forecast what kind of QB Tony Romo will ultimately be or it is really going to hurt this franchise long term. That is neither for nor against Romo. They really need to guess right on this issue, or get lucky hedging their bets, which would be alright as well.

 

[VA Cowboy]

**** munchies, your hate for romo disgusts me, and your love for bledsoe also disgusts.

you must be friends with the mods because i dont know how your still not banned.

all you do is start trouble, and a troll

Sounds like nors has another alter-ego.

 

[cowboys19]

I think Romo will be serviceable and can be a solid QB. But I don't see him being a "franchise QB" who will lead a team.

After 2 1/2 years of relics like Vinny and Bledsoe at QB, Romo coming in gave us a young energetic QB who could actually escape his own shadow. He really provided us with a spark and helped rejuvenate us for awhile. But, teams are now seeing him on film and figuring him out and he's starting to level out.

I still think he can be decent. Hopefully with a full offseason and TC of work as the starting QB he'll be even better prepared next year. But I don't think we've found lightning in a bottle like it appeared several weeks ago. The good thing is that he can win in this league and unlike Vinny and Bledsoe, he isnt' some old stopgap. He's someone who has an upside and can improve. But I do think it'd be a good idea to look for a QB in the middle rounds of the draft. And, I think we'll try signing a veteran backup as well.

what exactly makes you think he wont be a franchise QB?

average arm strength? his arm is plenty strong enough to be a franchise QB.

People get too caught up in being drafted, and strong arms, and not enough in intangibles

 

[theogt]

I think Romo will be serviceable and can be a solid QB. But I don't see him being a "franchise QB" who will lead a team.

After 2 1/2 years of relics like Vinny and Bledsoe at QB, Romo coming in gave us a young energetic QB who could actually escape his own shadow. He really provided us with a spark and helped rejuvenate us for awhile. But, teams are now seeing him on film and figuring him out and he's starting to level out.

I still think he can be decent. Hopefully with a full offseason and TC of work as the starting QB he'll be even better prepared next year. But I don't think we've found lightning in a bottle like it appeared several weeks ago. The good thing is that he can win in this league and unlike Vinny and Bledsoe, he isnt' some old stopgap. He's someone who has an upside and can improve. But I do think it'd be a good idea to look for a QB in the middle rounds of the draft. And, I think we'll try signing a veteran backup as well.

Can you give me an example of a team seeing the film and figuring him out? Did he have any certain tendencies that teams have taken away?

If you have a belief (i.e., that teams have figured him out because of tape), shouldn't there be some reason to have that belief?

 

[DragonCowboy]

ooooo you picked one game and you made an entire point out of it! Wow!

Just for yuks, i'll pick 4 games out of the last 5. Ill leave out the NO game since you already covered that one. For 4 out of the last 5 games, JJ hasn't topped 40 yards rushing. 128 yards on 45 carries. That's a TOTALLY AWESOME average of 2.84 yards! YES!

With the exception of the New Orleans game, JJ hasn't even SNIFFED 4 yards a carry since WEEK SIX. Including FOUR efforts of 3.0 or LESS yards a carry. Wow. Really burning it up there.

Ok, follow me here.

I was talking about when we were behind for a great part of the game. We were far behind against the Saints and Eagles. So forget about those other games.

In the Saints game, JJ had a 4+ ypc.

In the Eagles game, JJ had a 3.8 ypc.

Another thing that's troubling is the amount of carries that MB3 gets in the games. He got 2 in the Saints game, and 6 in the Philly game, where in the games where we win, he gets many more carries.

We shy away from the run when we're behind. In the Saints game, we only got 12 carries. And yeah, we weren't getting completely blown out until the 3rd qtr, when (surprise!) we stopped running it. In the Eagles game, we only got 16 carries, and we were in it until sometime in the 4th qtr.

So it's not like the run game is being stopped, it's BP freaking out and wanting to pass, pass, pass. Romo, like most other QBs, aren't going to succeed when that happens.

I am in no way saying that Julius or Barber are the best backs, because, frankly, I don't care, as long as the run game works. Like it or not, Parcells goes into some panic mode after we fall behind, and he becomes pass happy.

I like JJ, but you would have to admit that he doesn't seem to have the greatest of vision, or instincts when the area he is called to go is not there. He does make some nice runs, but for the most part I just don't think he has the best knack for making something out of nothing?

Thank you.

Julius doesn't exactly make something out of nothing.

Now DIAF and stealth, listen here.

If our offensive line was getting "blown up", then Julius would have NO chance of getting any yardage, right? Yet in both of those games, he had a 3.8+ ypc.

Regardless, I don't care HOW he gets the yardage, it just shows that the run game is WORKING.

Why Parcells shies away from it to go to something that's not as effective is strange.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Can you give me an example of a team seeing the film and figuring him out? Did he have any certain tendencies that teams have taken away?

If you have a belief (i.e., that teams have figured him out because of tape), shouldn't there be some reason to have that belief?

I've seen several teams the last few weeks try to keep him in the pocket instead of allowing him to do what he does best and get outside and throw on the run.
He was highly effective the first few weeks he started by rolling out and making things happen. Since then several teams have focused on keeping him inside and making him make the throws, many times flat-footed and he hasn't been as effective and seems to have regressed some.

That said, I still think he can be a serviceable and solid QB. I just don't believe he'll be a "franchise" periennial pro bowler. Of course it doesn't always take that to win. As long as the supporting cast is good enough, we can contend by having a QB who manages the game and can make plays with his mobility. And like I said before, I think a full offseason of working as the starter and getting the full reps will do him good for next season.

 

[theogt]

I've seen several teams the last few weeks try to keep him in the pocket instead of allowing him to do what he does best and get outside and throw on the run.
He was highly effective the first few weeks he started by rolling out and making things happen. Since then several teams have focused on keeping him inside and making him make the throws, many times flat-footed and he hasn't been as effective and seems to have regressed some.

That said, I still think he can be a serviceable and solid QB. I just don't believe he'll be a "franchise" periennial pro bowler. Of course it doesn't always take that to win. As long as the supporting cast is good enough, we can contend by having a QB who manages the game and can make plays with his mobility. And like I said before, I think a full offseason of working as the starter and getting the full reps will do him good for next season.

So, they figured him out by keeping him in the pocket and getting pressure on him? To be honest with you, I don't think that's what very many people mean when they say, "teams have figured it him out because of tape."

By the way, his stats inside the pocket are better than outside the pocket.

 

[VA Cowboy]

So, they figured him out by keeping him in the pocket and getting pressure on him? To be honest with you, I don't think that's what very many people mean when they say, "teams have figured it him out because of tape."

By the way, his stats inside the pocket are better than outside the pocket.

Then what do they mean?

 

[theogt]

Then what do they mean?

He has certain tendencies, such as being successful on only a few different routes and they take those routes away. Or he underthrows a certain pass. Or he favors one particular WR and they take that player out of the game.

Things like that. Every QB gets worse under pressure. That's not really specific to any particular QB.

 

[Sancho]

at the very least he'll be a Jake Delhomme type. we'll get a clearer picture next year.

 

[gbrittain]

The final chapter on the Romo book is far from written, but as far as chapter one goes this is what I know about him.

In every game that the defense makes at least a minimal appearance Romo has put Dallas in a position to win.

The two games were the defense took a vacation he has looked very average. He could have done better he could have done worse.

I will be the first to jump on Romo and call a spade a spade, but as of right now he is all the QB we would ever need. This could be proven wrong in the future, but those jumping on Romo now are being overly critical or worse.

As soon as the defense is playing ball and Romo is killing us with turnovers, bad decisions and poor play then and only then will Romo deserve the criticism he is receiving from a select few.

 

[DWhite Fan]

typical knee jerk thread. I think Romo is going to be good- not Brady or Aikman or Staubach great. I think maybe better then Danny White. Who was pretty good.

How about waiting till Romo wins some important games before deciding what kind of QB he is. I heard this same stuff about Gary Hogeboom in 1984 and we see how that worked out. Give Romo next season when he gets all the reps in trainning camp and starts ALL the regular season games. We will have a better idea about him then. I am gonna say this about Danny White. He was a much better QB than people around here want to remember or choose to believe.

 

[romo4pres]

What QB is?

jeez. FACE IT. Romo has stunk it up the last part of the season and is part of the reason for our failure. The defense sucks and all but they also hardly get any time off the field with all the 3 and outs.

 

[Sarge]

jeez. FACE IT. Romo has stunk it up the last part of the season and is part of the reason for our failure. The defense sucks and all but they also hardly get any time off the field with all the 3 and outs.

Ya, we would have fared better with Bledsoe in there.........

 

[superpunk]

jeez. FACE IT. Romo has stunk it up the last part of the season and is part of the reason for our failure. The defense sucks and all but they also hardly get any time off the field with all the 3 and outs.

I have a feeling that if our anemic rush offense would put our QB in less 3rd and long situations we'd have less three and outs.

I don't know if the math adds up, but I think it's a good bet.

 

[romo4pres]

Ya, we would have fared better with Bledsoe in there.........

look im not saying he needs to be benched..im just saying that he has not played well in the latter part of the season. Also..any criticism he is receiving as a first year player is fair game as he did not shy away from taking responsibilty for turning the cowboys around. Never heard him deflect praise (drew brees style) and say that it was the team who should be given credit. With individual accolades comes individual criticism.

 

[DIAF]

Ya, we would have fared better with Bledsoe in there.........

See what I mean? The guy said nothing about Bledsoe. You criticize Romo and out come the dogs. Teeth, snarl, bark and all that.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think Romo is a very good QB and will only get better. This past game against Philly, Dallas just flat out was beaten at the line of scrimmage both offensively and defensively. It never ceases to amazing me how quick some fans will turn on players.

 

[WoodysGirl]

look im not saying he needs to be benched..im just saying that he has not played well in the latter part of the season. Also..any criticism he is receiving as a first year player is fair game as he did not shy away from taking responsibilty for turning the cowboys around. Never heard him deflect praise (drew brees style) and say that it was the team who should be given credit. With individual accolades comes individual criticism.

Actually he has... Not sure what you've been reading. You should troll the Archive and Recap Zones. Plenty of quotes from him about it.

Romo hasn't played as well as he did when he first was given the keys to the bus, but he's the least of my concerns.

 

[Fletch]

"What is Tony Romo?" I think this is one of the largest looming questions for the Cowboys. It is probably more important than whether Bill Parcells or Terrell Owens stays next year.

The Cowboys need a true "franchise" QB in the worst way. If Romo is the answer, then we should compete for the SB for the next several years. If not, well, we had better have a plan "B", or we will be no better than mediocre, even with a great defense (assuming it is capable of becoming great).

I think we have to look at signing Romo to a longer term deal at a time when he is struggling (like right now). If he is the greatest thing since sliced bread, then we save some huge cap dollars. If he doesn't pan out, then you have a guy who can at least spot start, which we know he is capable of doing.

The Cowboys' brass can make a few bad decisions and still be ok, but this is not one of them. They really need to get this one right.

Tony is a good QB who is now losing ground to the lack of line protection. Any QB in Dallas will be a question mark because of the inconsistant run blocking and pass protection from our Offensive Line.