What it feels like to win

Scotman

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,612
Reaction score
6,303
I know that a lot of the fan base is too young to remember what it is like to field a championship team. While I'm sure it varies from fan to fan, I'd like to share what it was like from my perspective. I'll try and relate it to some of the things we still experience

I've seen every championship the Cowboys have ever played in. I've seen virtually every game they've ever played. The championship years felt different. Is the difference in feeling simply hindsight based on the outcome? Possibly. But, even during the regular season those years, you could feel it coming.

You know how it feels winning the off season every year? You get a player you wanted...or a coach. The draft falls just right. The news coming out of practice or camp is exciting. A championship year starts like that. There's a lot of hope. But that feeling doesn't die when the games start. The guys begin to look like you hoped they'd look.

When the games begin, you start to see a lot of the "what-ifs" come to fruition. We still do this...still play the what-if game. What if we can stay healthy? What if so-and-so lives up to his potential? Even more than the what-ifs, you start to accumulate a few surprise contributors along the way. A good example of this was Larry Allen having to step in for an injured Mark Tuinei in his first start. "What if you could replace a great guy like Tui with a hall-of-famer?" That would have been a ridiculous hope before his first start. Tuinei's loss, even if temporary that first time, was met with someone with even greater potential taking his spot.

In a Championship season, the guys stepping up don't just become role-players, they actually help. You get a couple that wow you along the way. Rookies like Darren Woodson show something that hints at greatness even from a back-up position.

More than anything else, in my opinion, is that you begin to develop momentum. As the what-ifs become reality and the good games are followed by good games, you can feel it. The season starts and you don't feel the hope slipping through your fingers...potential being crossed off the list one lackluster play at a time. You don't feel the down-turns or missteps repeating and building. They happen, but they don't slow things down.

As a fan, the sense of urgency slowly becomes promise. You eventually feel like there isn't anything that can get in your way. Even having to go to Candlestick Park and take on an actual dynasty on their home turf feels like destiny. Your best players play their best games. Guys like Staubach, Aikman, Dorsett and Smith on offense make the plays that you know will become highlight reels. Guys like Renfro, Lilly, Woodson and Haley on the defensive side of the ball make the plays that kill the spirit of the opposing team.

Championship years feel like a run-away train ride. There is the raw power of the engines as it leaves the depo. Momentum builds as raw power becomes pure speed. You eventually know that anything that gets in your way is going to be simply pushed aside. And, when you finally hoist that trophy, you know that that was the only way that season could have possibly ended.

THAT is what you have missed the last 25 years.
 
I know that a lot of the fan base is too young to remember what it is like to field a championship team. While I'm sure it varies from fan to fan, I'd like to share what it was like from my perspective. I'll try and relate it to some of the things we still experience

I've seen every championship the Cowboys have ever played in. I've seen virtually every game they've ever played. The championship years felt different. Is the difference in feeling simply hindsight based on the outcome? Possibly. But, even during the regular season those years, you could feel it coming.

You know how it feels winning the off season every year? You get a player you wanted...or a coach. The draft falls just right. The news coming out of practice or camp is exciting. A championship year starts like that. There's a lot of hope. But that feeling doesn't die when the games start. The guys begin to look like you hoped they'd look.

When the games begin, you start to see a lot of the "what-ifs" come to fruition. We still do this...still play the what-if game. What if we can stay healthy? What if so-and-so lives up to his potential? Even more than the what-ifs, you start to accumulate a few surprise contributors along the way. A good example of this was Larry Allen having to step in for an injured Mark Tuinei in his first start. "What if you could replace a great guy like Tui with a hall-of-famer?" That would have been a ridiculous hope before his first start. Tuinei's loss, even if temporary that first time, was met with someone with even greater potential taking his spot.

In a Championship season, the guys stepping up don't just become role-players, they actually help. You get a couple that wow you along the way. Rookies like Darren Woodson show something that hints at greatness even from a back-up position.

More than anything else, in my opinion, is that you begin to develop momentum. As the what-ifs become reality and the good games are followed by good games, you can feel it. The season starts and you don't feel the hope slipping through your fingers...potential being crossed off the list one lackluster play at a time. You don't feel the down-turns or missteps repeating and building. They happen, but they don't slow things down.

As a fan, the sense of urgency slowly becomes promise. You eventually feel like there isn't anything that can get in your way. Even having to go to Candlestick Park and take on an actual dynasty on their home turf feels like destiny. Your best players play their best games. Guys like Staubach, Aikman, Dorsett and Smith on offense make the plays that you know will become highlight reels. Guys like Renfro, Lilly, Woodson and Haley on the defensive side of the ball make the plays that kill the spirit of the opposing team.

Championship years feel like a run-away train ride. There is the raw power of the engines as it leaves the depo. Momentum builds as raw power becomes pure speed. You eventually know that anything that gets in your way is going to be simply pushed aside. And, when you finally hoist that trophy, you know that that was the only way that season could have possibly ended.

THAT is what you have missed the last 25 years.
Been a fan since 1975.
It was great when you felt like you had a real chance to win it all every season.
Now I have much lower expectations.
I just hope for improvement now over last season
 
I know that a lot of the fan base is too young to remember what it is like to field a championship team. While I'm sure it varies from fan to fan, I'd like to share what it was like from my perspective. I'll try and relate it to some of the things we still experience

I've seen every championship the Cowboys have ever played in. I've seen virtually every game they've ever played. The championship years felt different. Is the difference in feeling simply hindsight based on the outcome? Possibly. But, even during the regular season those years, you could feel it coming.

You know how it feels winning the off season every year? You get a player you wanted...or a coach. The draft falls just right. The news coming out of practice or camp is exciting. A championship year starts like that. There's a lot of hope. But that feeling doesn't die when the games start. The guys begin to look like you hoped they'd look.

When the games begin, you start to see a lot of the "what-ifs" come to fruition. We still do this...still play the what-if game. What if we can stay healthy? What if so-and-so lives up to his potential? Even more than the what-ifs, you start to accumulate a few surprise contributors along the way. A good example of this was Larry Allen having to step in for an injured Mark Tuinei in his first start. "What if you could replace a great guy like Tui with a hall-of-famer?" That would have been a ridiculous hope before his first start. Tuinei's loss, even if temporary that first time, was met with someone with even greater potential taking his spot.

In a Championship season, the guys stepping up don't just become role-players, they actually help. You get a couple that wow you along the way. Rookies like Darren Woodson show something that hints at greatness even from a back-up position.

More than anything else, in my opinion, is that you begin to develop momentum. As the what-ifs become reality and the good games are followed by good games, you can feel it. The season starts and you don't feel the hope slipping through your fingers...potential being crossed off the list one lackluster play at a time. You don't feel the down-turns or missteps repeating and building. They happen, but they don't slow things down.

As a fan, the sense of urgency slowly becomes promise. You eventually feel like there isn't anything that can get in your way. Even having to go to Candlestick Park and take on an actual dynasty on their home turf feels like destiny. Your best players play their best games. Guys like Staubach, Aikman, Dorsett and Smith on offense make the plays that you know will become highlight reels. Guys like Renfro, Lilly, Woodson and Haley on the defensive side of the ball make the plays that kill the spirit of the opposing team.

Championship years feel like a run-away train ride. There is the raw power of the engines as it leaves the depo. Momentum builds as raw power becomes pure speed. You eventually know that anything that gets in your way is going to be simply pushed aside. And, when you finally hoist that trophy, you know that that was the only way that season could have possibly ended.

THAT is what you have missed the last 25 years.
Like you, I’ve been a fan a very long time- since 1964. I’ve been lucky enough to see every playoff game the Cowboys have played (all on TV) Sometimes it amazes me how far this team has fallen.

I don’t know if we will ever have a run like 1967-83, when this team made the playoffs 16 of 17 years, won 20 playoff games, 5 NFC championships and 2 SBs, all happening with 9 HOFers. The 90s were mostly great too. But that 17 year stretch between 67-83 remains other-worldly. That’s when the Cowboys became America’s team.
 
Like you, I’ve been a fan a very long time- since 1964. I’ve been lucky enough to see every playoff game the Cowboys have played (all on TV) Sometimes it amazes me how far this team has fallen.

I don’t know if we will ever have a run like 1967-83, when this team made the playoffs 16 of 17 years, won 20 playoff games, 5 NFC championships and 2 SBs. The 90s were mostly great too. But that 17 year stretch between 67-83 remains other-worldly. That’s when the Cowboys became America’s team.

Amen. Seems like a lifetime ago
 
Like you, I’ve been a fan a very long time- since 1964. I’ve been lucky enough to see every playoff game the Cowboys have played (all on TV) Sometimes it amazes me how far this team has fallen.

I don’t know if we will ever have a run like 1967-83, when this team made the playoffs 16 of 17 years, won 20 playoff games, 5 NFC championships and 2 SBs, all happening with 9 HOFers. The 90s were mostly great too. But that 17 year stretch between 67-83 remains other-worldly. That’s when the Cowboys became America’s team.
it still amazes me how Coach Landry was able to sustain it...thru 3 decades.
of all he accomplished....its that singular accomplishment.
sustained success...from metedith-white.....perkins-dorsett....hayes-pearson....lilly-white....renfro-walls.
the faces changed....but the success didn't.
 
When the Cowboys lost the Miami game on the infamous Leon Lett play, I laughed. I wasn't happy they lost, I just knew that it didn't matter. The Cowboys were a machine, and this one loss wasn't going to stop them from what was destined to be.

I've not had that feeling, since that season.
 
I'm too young - a statement I don't get to make often these days - to remember the 60s teams, but I've followed from the 70s and beyond.

I just remember feeling like the Cowboys were contenders every year for about 30 years, except for the dark days of the late 80s. I lost that feeling for good two decades ago. These days, nothing that happens in the offseason brings it back as I've seen too many summers where everyone got excited - "this is our year!" - only to see the team fall flat, or have a great regular season then lay an egg in the playoffs.

At this point, the only way I'll ever regain confidence in this franchise is to SEE them win it all again. The Jones boys jibber-jabbering about Super Bowls just sounds comical now. They've spent far too long doing things their way without so much as sniffing a title. As The Who said, we won't be fooled, again. At least I won't.
 
When the Cowboys lost the Miami game on the infamous Leon Lett play, I laughed. I wasn't happy they lost, I just knew that it didn't matter. The Cowboys were a machine, and this one loss wasn't going to stop them from what was destined to be.

I've not had that feeling, since that season.

I was working in South Florida at that time. When I went to work the next Monday. All the Dolphins fans said was, thank you for the gift. All the non-Dolphin other teams fans, even the ones that hated Dallas, which was only a few said, dang you had that game. There were many people there that were fans of other teams, but none hated Dallas, even the Eagles fan was impartial. Only a few did not like them.

Anyway, there was one Dolphins fans, not that he hated Dallas, but he would not let it go all day long. I finally said, hey enjoy the win because it will be your last win, we will be where we want to be when it is over..
Come to find out, Jimmy told the team in the locker, something about, hey to get to be where we want to be, you know what you have to do, win out.

And sure enough Dallas won out on through the SB. But the Dolphins, they lost out. I gave that guy hell for a long time as well, other Dolphins fans did too. When he ragged me they even told him, don't go there.
It was great.
 
When the Cowboys lost the Miami game on the infamous Leon Lett play, I laughed. I wasn't happy they lost, I just knew that it didn't matter. The Cowboys were a machine, and this one loss wasn't going to stop them from what was destined to be.

I've not had that feeling, since that season.
Would you believe I was thinking the exact same thing? I could not fit it easily into my thoughts above, so I didn't include it.
 
I'm too young - a statement I don't get to make often these days - to remember the 60s teams, but I've followed from the 70s and beyond.

I just remember feeling like the Cowboys were contenders every year for about 30 years, except for the dark days of the late 80s. I lost that feeling for good two decades ago. These days, nothing that happens in the offseason brings it back as I've seen too many summers where everyone got excited - "this is our year!" - only to see the team fall flat, or have a great regular season then lay an egg in the playoffs.

At this point, the only way I'll ever regain confidence in this franchise is to SEE them win it all again. The Jones boys jibber-jabbering about Super Bowls just sounds comical now. They've spent far too long doing things their way without so much as sniffing a title. As The Who said, we won't be fooled, again. At least I won't.

I understand...but still get fooled...every year.
 
What the cowboys did in that long playoff run won't happen again (unless another Brady/Belichick combo comes along). Now, you hope for a 3-5 year window to have a shot at the superbowl before you have to essentially start all over. The salary cap, free agency, etc. have made it increasingly more difficult to sustain excellence. NE was an outlier. Look at a team like GB. They have had a top 1-3 QB for years and have only managed one superbowl win. Seattle with the great teams they had only got one. You have to be really smart about who you draft and how you spend your money now. If you aren't, you won't win.
 
Like you, I’ve been a fan a very long time- since 1964. I’ve been lucky enough to see every playoff game the Cowboys have played (all on TV) Sometimes it amazes me how far this team has fallen.

I don’t know if we will ever have a run like 1967-83, when this team made the playoffs 16 of 17 years, won 20 playoff games, 5 NFC championships and 2 SBs, all happening with 9 HOFers. The 90s were mostly great too. But that 17 year stretch between 67-83 remains other-worldly. That’s when the Cowboys became America’s team.
Truth, only us old timers remember those glory years.
How glorious they were!
 
What the cowboys did in that long playoff run won't happen again (unless another Brady/Belichick combo comes along). Now, you hope for a 3-5 year window to have a shot at the superbowl before you have to essentially start all over. The salary cap, free agency, etc. have made it increasingly more difficult to sustain excellence. NE was an outlier. Look at a team like GB. They have had a top 1-3 QB for years and have only managed one superbowl win. Seattle with the great teams they had only got one. You have to be really smart about who you draft and how you spend your money now. If you aren't, you won't win.
Very well stated!
 
I bet some of you young homers wearing the blinders wonder why some of us old times are so bitter..... The passion and desire the championship teams of the past had has been tossed aside for greed, but that's only part of the problem.

The biggest problem this franchise faces is the owner/GM. As long as the money keeps rolling he has no incentive to build a winner. He won his championship 25 years ago, and it is apparent, at least to me, that the desire to keep winning left his mind a long time ago. He has zero incentive to change the culture as long as his wallet keeps getting fatter.
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
474,003
Messages
14,505,678
Members
24,207
Latest member
TomGiantsfan
Back
Top