What options do Cowboys have to move on from Prescott?

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Yea, Cousins or Mayfield are only FA options available this year.

Cousins coming off season ending injury. Are we ready to invest several years and a market type contract ?

And we’d consider that a considerable upgrade?
He's absolutely better than Dak, but he's on the same tier regarding championships IMO.
 

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If we transition to just anyone, do yall really expect Ceedee to stay?
5th year option has already been used plus they can still franchise him. Ceedee is completely under Cowboys control for the next couple years. Plus depending on how you read into his moms tweets and his body language from the GB game he might be ok with it???
 

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I think it makes zero sense to move on from Dak just to turn around an sign another high dollar QB. That's just change for the sake of change. To move on you need to be confident in a cheaper option. Maybe that's Trey Lance. Maybe there is a cheaper option vet like a Jameis Winston if you feel he fits into your scheme. The only reason to move on from Dak would be to build up the talent level for the rest of your team. Signing a Baker or Cousins is just the same mistake with a different name.
 

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Before any other contract is signed, the Cowboys need to figure out what they want to do with quarterback Dak Prescott, who is entering the final year of his contract with a $59.45 million cap hit and a dead cap value of $61.91 million. The Cowboys cannot realistically construct a winning team with Prescott's contract as it is, so they'll inevitably have to either extend him, trade him, or cut him.


“If we get to March and the Cowboys, for whatever reason, have decided they don't want to extend Prescott… then things get interesting," ESPN's Dan Graziano said. "Prescott's 2024 money is not guaranteed. The Cowboys could cut or trade him prior to paying the March roster bonus and save $34 million on their 2024 cap."
Regardless of the salary cap, there isn't any clear path to a quarterback upgrade for Dallas. Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield will be the headliners of a lackluster free agency, and any trade will likely result in a downgrade at the quarterback position.

Finding a franchise quarterback is a daunting task, and Prescott is a three-time Pro Bowler who just had an All-Pro season despite coming up short in the playoffs again. Only a handful of quarterbacks would represent an obvious upgrade, and none of them will be available for trade. All that leaves are the quarterbacks that Dallas currently has on their roster . San Francisco gladly traded Lance away just two years after spending multiple first-round picks to draft him third overall, so it's unlikely that he's a viable answer.

"The Cowboys know how hard it is to get a good quarterback and Prescott is largely considered a top-10 passer in this league," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said. "So, it would be mildly surprising if they moved on from him, but with that 2-5 playoff record, certainly that could be a negotiating point for Dallas that comes up over the coming months."

Extending Prescott is the most reasonable move if Dallas wants to remain competitive. And remaining relative and competitive is our owners first priority. He appears to be “ All In” on this current core of stars even recently stating we will go as far as Dak takes us.

Also worth noting is in McCarthys lame duck season without a contract extension it’s very doubtful they change QB’s. That leaves us basically negotiating how big and how long the extension.
The only option is for Dak to ruin the salary cap with his hands of greed.
 

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The biggest issue is how they look at the QB position. Paying non elite players elite money will almost always hurt the team overall in the long run. The fallacy of most teams is they think they have to extend a decent QB, not because he deserves it but in fear they may get worse without. Yes there is a chance they move on from Dak and they get a lesser QB. But there are plenty of decent veteran QB's to be had for fairly cheap. You can get a flacco or baker mayfield really cheap. Maybe Minn moves on from cousins and you get him cheap. They are out there you just have to do some work. Then you have absolutely got to draft a guy to develop. In last years draft will levis fell and if your office had him as a 1st round talent then you should have taken him. now they did get trey lance but his contract comes up the same time as Daks. So it will be really hard to know if he's worth a second contract and how much he would want. This organization needs to be willing to walk away from someone when they over value themselves. i'll say the same with Parsone, diggs, cd. Take a good deal that is team friendly and makes you rich or try and trade them for more assets and look to finding more guys like Gilmore, lewis who will be a fraction of the price while drafting young talent.
Im no historian, I dont have stats...but I assume you idea has been tried and not worked.

What so many posters seem to not want to discuss is the Locker room. Its like my point hurts posters' narrative so they avoid talking about it.

My opinion is, the players see Dak as good enough. He seems to be a leader on and off the field. You get rid of him for a high risk, low cost QB and the QB starts to stink early in the season...you lose the Locker room. Players start faking injuries because they know the season is over. Older stud players trying to win(Tyron and Zach) are disgruntled because they are at the end and now the season is a waste.

It becomes a toxic situation. And...I assume...numbers back up that the likely hood of the cheap QB being a stinker are significant. This board complained about Romo INT's at bad times or Dak not being clutch...what do you think the Locker room would do if we let Dak go to Atlanta, they go 12-5 make the playoffs and we lose a make or break game to get into the playoffs at 8-8 because Flacco throws 3 INT's?

I just completely disagree with your approach. I think it fails more times than "hits the jackpot". QB market prices are a thing for a reason, and other players and coaches need to step up...not just QB. But that kills the narrative.

No on this board wants to talk about Locker room issues when talking about replacing Good Bus driving QB's. No one. And it is a thing.
 

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The only option is for Dak to ruin the salary cap with his hands of greed.
Actually a new contact would drastically lower his Cap hit. Like previous seasons with 17, 19 and 26 million which didn’t prevent us from surrounding him with talent . It just wasn’t enough. Our FO didn’t react and anticipate holes we had .

And unfortunately he’s not enough to overcome weaknesses which a QB with his contract should be able to do to some extent. It’s a double whammy of sorts .

But our ownership appears All In so not sure it matters . Onward Thru The Fog.
 

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Im no historian, I dont have stats...but I assume you idea has been tried and not worked.

What so many posters seem to not want to discuss is the Locker room. Its like my point hurts posters' narrative so they avoid talking about it.

My opinion is, the players see Dak as good enough. He seems to be a leader on and off the field. You get rid of him for a high risk, low cost QB and the QB starts to stink early in the season...you lose the Locker room. Players start faking injuries because they know the season is over. Older stud players trying to win(Tyron and Zach) are disgruntled because they are at the end and now the season is a waste.

It becomes a toxic situation. And...I assume...numbers back up that the likely hood of the cheap QB being a stinker are significant. This board complained about Romo INT's at bad times or Dak not being clutch...what do you think the Locker room would do if we let Dak go to Atlanta, they go 12-5 make the playoffs and we lose a make or break game to get into the playoffs at 8-8 because Flacco throws 3 INT's?

I just completely disagree with your approach. I think it fails more times than "hits the jackpot". QB market prices are a thing for a reason, and other players and coaches need to step up...not just QB. But that kills the narrative.

No on this board wants to talk about Locker room issues when talking about replacing Good Bus driving QB's. No one. And it is a thing.
Interesting perspective . But it holds some value.

It’s kinda like our ownership. They are comfortable and confident with what they see and have.

In their eyes despite the playoff disappointments the 12 win seasons are something to build on.

And hopefully they can do enough to break thru. It’s a valid argument .
 

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Actually a new contact would drastically lower his Cap hit. Like previous seasons with 17, 19 and 26 million which didn’t prevent us from surrounding him with talent . It just wasn’t enough. Our FO didn’t react and anticipate holes we had .

And unfortunately he’s not enough to overcome weaknesses which a QB with his contract should be able to do to some extent. It’s a double whammy of sorts .

But our ownership appears All In so not sure it matters . Onward Thru The Fog.
I wish the Cowboy would do a start over. I would not care if they won a game or two, just get started all over again. But, as you say, we have a couple of rich fools trying to run a football team.
 

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I wish the Cowboy would do a start over. I would not care if they won a game or two, just get started all over again. But, as you say, we have a couple of rich fools trying to run a football team.
Not only that but why start over when you have a product which is competitive. I totally get where they are coming from.

It takes entirely too much effort to start over . And they could possibly not do any better . Maybe worse. This is a much more comfortable situation . I get it even if I don’t like it.
 

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Interesting perspective . But it holds some value.

It’s kinda like our ownership. They are comfortable and confident with what they see and have.

In their eyes despite the playoff disappointments the 12 win seasons are something to build on.

And hopefully they can do enough to break thru. It’s a valid argument .
Ive made the same point in many "get rid of Dak for anyone else" threads...

And my point gets ghosted by the board.

The players would start griping and going to social media...the sports media like ESPN would have a field day with the chaos going on inside the Cowboys Locker room...

But none of the Couch GM's around here want to even consider that losing the locker room and wasting other good players careers(Tyron, Martin, Lawrence) in search of Mahommes is even a thing.

None of them. They avoid this point like its a plague to their narrative. Real GM's have many more variables to consider than these rigid "Win the Super Bowl or fire him" views around here. Its immature and played out, honestly. Just unreasonable.
 

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Before any other contract is signed, the Cowboys need to figure out what they want to do with quarterback Dak Prescott, who is entering the final year of his contract with a $59.45 million cap hit and a dead cap value of $61.91 million. The Cowboys cannot realistically construct a winning team with Prescott's contract as it is, so they'll inevitably have to either extend him, trade him, or cut him.


“If we get to March and the Cowboys, for whatever reason, have decided they don't want to extend Prescott… then things get interesting," ESPN's Dan Graziano said. "Prescott's 2024 money is not guaranteed. The Cowboys could cut or trade him prior to paying the March roster bonus and save $34 million on their 2024 cap."
Regardless of the salary cap, there isn't any clear path to a quarterback upgrade for Dallas. Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield will be the headliners of a lackluster free agency, and any trade will likely result in a downgrade at the quarterback position.

Finding a franchise quarterback is a daunting task, and Prescott is a three-time Pro Bowler who just had an All-Pro season despite coming up short in the playoffs again. Only a handful of quarterbacks would represent an obvious upgrade, and none of them will be available for trade. All that leaves are the quarterbacks that Dallas currently has on their roster . San Francisco gladly traded Lance away just two years after spending multiple first-round picks to draft him third overall, so it's unlikely that he's a viable answer.

"The Cowboys know how hard it is to get a good quarterback and Prescott is largely considered a top-10 passer in this league," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said. "So, it would be mildly surprising if they moved on from him, but with that 2-5 playoff record, certainly that could be a negotiating point for Dallas that comes up over the coming months."

Extending Prescott is the most reasonable move if Dallas wants to remain competitive. And remaining relative and competitive is our owners first priority. He appears to be “ All In” on this current core of stars even recently stating we will go as far as Dak takes us.

Also worth noting is in McCarthys lame duck season without a contract extension it’s very doubtful they change QB’s. That leaves us basically negotiating how big and how long the extension.
If this organization wants to get better it has to move on from Prescot. If indeed Prescot can be traded, then the Cowboy brain trust must find away to unload him for draft picks that can be used to move up in the 2024 draft to get Prescot's replacement. Both Rush and Lance are not the answer and with that said one or the other will be asked to step up in 2024 and lead this team for one season while our brand new shiny QB get's to sit on the bench for a year and learn how to be a professional in the NFL. There should be some leftover pieces from the 2024 season and enough cap space in 2025 to build a competitive team around our rookie QB.
 

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Before any other contract is signed, the Cowboys need to figure out what they want to do with quarterback Dak Prescott, who is entering the final year of his contract with a $59.45 million cap hit and a dead cap value of $61.91 million. The Cowboys cannot realistically construct a winning team with Prescott's contract as it is, so they'll inevitably have to either extend him, trade him, or cut him.


“If we get to March and the Cowboys, for whatever reason, have decided they don't want to extend Prescott… then things get interesting," ESPN's Dan Graziano said. "Prescott's 2024 money is not guaranteed. The Cowboys could cut or trade him prior to paying the March roster bonus and save $34 million on their 2024 cap."
Regardless of the salary cap, there isn't any clear path to a quarterback upgrade for Dallas. Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield will be the headliners of a lackluster free agency, and any trade will likely result in a downgrade at the quarterback position.

Finding a franchise quarterback is a daunting task, and Prescott is a three-time Pro Bowler who just had an All-Pro season despite coming up short in the playoffs again. Only a handful of quarterbacks would represent an obvious upgrade, and none of them will be available for trade. All that leaves are the quarterbacks that Dallas currently has on their roster . San Francisco gladly traded Lance away just two years after spending multiple first-round picks to draft him third overall, so it's unlikely that he's a viable answer.

"The Cowboys know how hard it is to get a good quarterback and Prescott is largely considered a top-10 passer in this league," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said. "So, it would be mildly surprising if they moved on from him, but with that 2-5 playoff record, certainly that could be a negotiating point for Dallas that comes up over the coming months."

Extending Prescott is the most reasonable move if Dallas wants to remain competitive. And remaining relative and competitive is our owners first priority. He appears to be “ All In” on this current core of stars even recently stating we will go as far as Dak takes us.

Also worth noting is in McCarthys lame duck season without a contract extension it’s very doubtful they change QB’s. That leaves us basically negotiating how big and how long the extension.
None, actually.
 

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If this organization wants to get better it has to move on from Prescot. If indeed Prescot can be traded, then the Cowboy brain trust must find away to unload him for draft picks that can be used to move up in the 2024 draft to get Prescot's replacement. Both Rush and Lance are not the answer and with that said one or the other will be asked to step up in 2024 and lead this team for one season while our brand new shiny QB get's to sit on the bench for a year and learn how to be a professional in the NFL. There should be some leftover pieces from the 2024 season and enough cap space in 2025 to build a competitive team around our rookie QB.
Whats your plan when we draft Paxton Lynch with those draft assets acquired from Dak trade?

Just blame Jerry Jones and Staff for not being good QB scout evaluators like its some easy task?

What happens when the locker room turns on you when "Paxton" is doing awful and Dak has his team in the Playoffs?

Just claim these players are overpaid for what they do and should be professional about some incredibly stupid GM move?
 

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Before any other contract is signed, the Cowboys need to figure out what they want to do with quarterback Dak Prescott, who is entering the final year of his contract with a $59.45 million cap hit and a dead cap value of $61.91 million. The Cowboys cannot realistically construct a winning team with Prescott's contract as it is, so they'll inevitably have to either extend him, trade him, or cut him.


“If we get to March and the Cowboys, for whatever reason, have decided they don't want to extend Prescott… then things get interesting," ESPN's Dan Graziano said. "Prescott's 2024 money is not guaranteed. The Cowboys could cut or trade him prior to paying the March roster bonus and save $34 million on their 2024 cap."
Regardless of the salary cap, there isn't any clear path to a quarterback upgrade for Dallas. Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield will be the headliners of a lackluster free agency, and any trade will likely result in a downgrade at the quarterback position.

Finding a franchise quarterback is a daunting task, and Prescott is a three-time Pro Bowler who just had an All-Pro season despite coming up short in the playoffs again. Only a handful of quarterbacks would represent an obvious upgrade, and none of them will be available for trade. All that leaves are the quarterbacks that Dallas currently has on their roster . San Francisco gladly traded Lance away just two years after spending multiple first-round picks to draft him third overall, so it's unlikely that he's a viable answer.

"The Cowboys know how hard it is to get a good quarterback and Prescott is largely considered a top-10 passer in this league," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said. "So, it would be mildly surprising if they moved on from him, but with that 2-5 playoff record, certainly that could be a negotiating point for Dallas that comes up over the coming months."

Extending Prescott is the most reasonable move if Dallas wants to remain competitive. And remaining relative and competitive is our owners first priority. He appears to be “ All In” on this current core of stars even recently stating we will go as far as Dak takes us.

Also worth noting is in McCarthys lame duck season without a contract extension it’s very doubtful they change QB’s. That leaves us basically negotiating how big and how long the extension.
JJ needs to bite the bullet and trade Prescot if he can. Use the picks from the trade to UPGRADE the QB position.
 

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Ive made the same point in many "get rid of Dak for anyone else" threads...

And my point gets ghosted by the board.

The players would start griping and going to social media...the sports media like ESPN would have a field day with the chaos going on inside the Cowboys Locker room...

But none of the Couch GM's around here want to even consider that losing the locker room and wasting other good players careers(Tyron, Martin, Lawrence) in search of Mahommes is even a thing.


None of them. They avoid this point like its a plague to their narrative. Real GM's have many more variables to consider than these rigid "Win the Super Bowl or fire him" views around here. Its immature and played out, honestly. Just unreasonable.
Are we not already seeing this though? We just had the Bart Scott thread created today. We have family members tweeting and finger pointing. We have players going on podcast talking about needing accountability. We have Dlaw going on interviews saying guys were tired. We are only a few weeks in and the amount of ridiculous going on this offseason has been next level. The media is already having a field day with the Cowboys and from Dak/Lamb drama during the GB game and the fallout after there is already reason to suspect locker room issues are among us.

I'm not even sure its a need to search for the next Mahomes. It has more to do with not paying record setting money unless you find that mahomes.
 
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