What prison life will be like for Aaron Hernandez

[Plankton]

Who here actually thinks he pulled the trigger and killed that kid?

 

[65fastback2plus2]

It took me as much time to find the answer as it did to give it to you. So you could have done the same rather than wasting both our time. That would have been the simplest action on your part since that what seems to be matters to you.

my in-laws are at my house while we have been having the baby this week. its 3.5 miles. they know they are in katy, tx and the hospital is methodist. While wife was in actual labor, they were texting me for the address.

I was like serious?! you have 2 laptops, 2 iphones and 3 ipads you brought to my house, not to mention in-car nav...frickin figure it out! lol

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

my in-laws are at my house while we have been having the baby this week. its 3.5 miles. they know they are in katy, tx and the hospital is methodist. While wife was in actual labor, they were texting me for the address.

I was like serious?! you have 2 laptops, 2 iphones and 3 ipads you brought to my house, not to mention in-car nav...frickin figure it out! lol

 

[HeavyBarrel]

Psychopath first, NFL player second, he doesn't have the "ability" to think about his future and not act out violently.

 

[RastaRocket]

Appeal aside, his days in court are far from over (still faces double murder charges). With his sentence what it is, what is the point of throwing more money into prosecuting him for more crimes? A life sentence is a life sentence, period. There is no possibility of putting this piece of dirty to death so why not just toss him behind bars, throw away the key and never hear from him again?

Possibly for the families of the victims to find justice.

 

[JoeKing]

Possibly for the families of the victims to find justice.

Yeah okay, I can see that.

 

[Doomsday101]

as noted by someone a bit earlier, the appeals cost the state a lot. again, I'm not an expert so I don't know how much it costs per prisoner (I think 50k is a bit high), but it seems universally accepted that execution is not cheaper.

How so? The court room use is not a charge, the judges who sit on the bench are paid regardless if there is a hearing or not. So where is the extra cost? Meantime you have overcrowded prisons and new ones getting built

 

[DallasInDC]

How so? The court room use is not a charge, the judges who sit on the bench are paid regardless if there is a hearing or not. So where is the extra cost? Meantime you have overcrowded prisons and new ones getting built

The same could be said for prisoners in a prison. The facility, the guards, the utilities, are all fixed cost that doesn't change because you bring in a new prisoner (unless the additional prisoner causes you to exceed capacity to the point you have to add new facilities guards, etc.). The only true variable cost of a prison is consumable items (food, clothing, hygiene items, etc.).

When they discuss the cost of execution vs. the cost of imprisoning they are taking the total cost and dividing it by the number of units. Now to be fair, the volumes in a prison system are significantly much higher than the number of death row inmates which typically yields a lower unit cost. Of course some legitimate drivers of the argument that it is more costly for a death penalty vs. incarceration:

1. Death penalty cases tend to cost more due to the number of lawyers, expert witnesses, etc. involved in the original case
2. Length of death row cases tend to be longer utilizing more resources longer.
3. As mentioned before, numerous mandatory appeals process, is a costly part of death penalty convictions. One could argue if you eliminated the appeals process (not saying I am), you could eliminate cost because of reduced need for judges, lawyers, bailiffs, etc.
4. The cost of housing a death row inmate is more costly, due to isolated units, higher guard (and total staff) to inmate ratios. Considering that the average death-row inmate serves 15 years before execution compared to 3 years for a typical felon. you could see how the cost of one is higher than the cost of another (this f course does not tak in to consideration the type of crime and I'm sure if you were to isolate similar crimes, the disparity would be reduced.
5. and of course the ancillary costs of the actual execution which probably doesn't add a whole lot of costs in the grand scheme of things

 

[casmith07]

(CNN)Prison life won't be pretty for Aaron Hernandez, the NFL football player and convicted murderer sentenced to life without parole.
After correction officers evaluate him, he will be shipped to Massachusetts' flagship maximum-security prison, one of the most high-tech jails in the United States with no history of breakouts: the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley, about 40 miles outside downtown Boston.
It's called Souza, for short, and it's the state's newest prison, opened in 1998, with a matrix of 366 cameras recording live 24 hours a day and a microwave detection perimeter with taut wire.
"I don't know the date, but he'll be going there. That's the maximum-security facility," Department of Corrections spokesman Darren Duarte said.
Legal advocates for inmates describe Souza as sterile and violent at once. Its diverse demographic includes the young and the old, many of whom are also doing life. One stubborn problem is that opiates are smuggled to inmates, the legal advocates said.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/us/where-aaron-hernandez-will-serve-life-prison-sentence/index.html

Dumb article. Prison life will be prison.

 

[Doomsday101]

The same could be said for prisoners in a prison. The facility, the guards, the utilities, are all fixed cost that doesn't change because you bring in a new prisoner (unless the additional prisoner causes you to exceed capacity to the point you have to add new facilities guards, etc.). The only true variable cost of a prison is consumable items (food, clothing, hygiene items, etc.).

When they discuss the cost of execution vs. the cost of imprisoning they are taking the total cost and dividing it by the number of units. Now to be fair, the volumes in a prison system are significantly much higher than the number of death row inmates which typically yields a lower unit cost. Of course some legitimate drivers of the argument that it is more costly for a death penalty vs. incarceration:

1. Death penalty cases tend to cost more due to the number of lawyers, expert witnesses, etc. involved in the original case
2. Length of death row cases tend to be longer utilizing more resources longer.
3. As mentioned before, numerous mandatory appeals process, is a costly part of death penalty convictions. One could argue if you eliminated the appeals process (not saying I am), you could eliminate cost because of reduced need for judges, lawyers, bailiffs, etc.
4. The cost of housing a death row inmate is more costly, due to isolated units, higher guard (and total staff) to inmate ratios. Considering that the average death-row inmate serves 15 years before execution compared to 3 years for a typical felon. you could see how the cost of one is higher than the cost of another (this f course does not tak in to consideration the type of crime and I'm sure if you were to isolate similar crimes, the disparity would be reduced.
5. and of course the ancillary costs of the actual execution which probably doesn't add a whole lot of costs in the grand scheme of things

and new prisons because overcrowding cost us what?

 

[DallasInDC]

and new prisons because overcrowding cost us what?

I am pretty certain new prisons are not being built because of the over population caused by capital punishment crimes. So if you executed every single convict guilty of capital crimes, you would still have to build new facilities to accommodate those lesser felonies primarily drug and larceny related crimes. Their are over 2.5MM people locked up at any given time, of that amount, only 166K are in prison for murder related charges (all of which are not considered capital punishment crimes, e.g. manslaughter, and negligent homicide which makes up a good portion of murder convictions). So new prisons are cost that will be incurred regardless of executions, and in the end will still result in the cost of incarceration to be lower than the cost of execution.

Note: I am not advocating for or against the death penalty; just explaining why it is commonly stated that executions are more costly than incarceration.

 

[djmajestik]

...and yet you have time to write that? Sounds like your work day is well spent. in deed... not. I'd rather be a jerk than a sad bag collecting a check that I did not earn. Now who is entitled? At work on CZ getting paid... good for you, working man.

Wow. Issues much?

 

[JoeKing]

Wow. Issues much?

What? Do have an issue?

 

[rynochop]

I dont know why i think of this kind of stuff, but what happens to his assets since he wont be needing them the rest of his life? He may as well be dead, does he give power of attorney to someone and have a sort of will?

Im sure he has money in a bank and that house, who knows if he paid cash for it or what. Didnt know if we had an attorney around here.heh

 

[Fletch]

They call it the booty house.

What is a booty house? JK

 

[Manwiththeplan]

and new prisons because overcrowding cost us what?

I honestly don't think the amount of death row inmates at any particular facility is the cause of over crowding.

 

[burmafrd]

The same could be said for prisoners in a prison. The facility, the guards, the utilities, are all fixed cost that doesn't change because you bring in a new prisoner (unless the additional prisoner causes you to exceed capacity to the point you have to add new facilities guards, etc.). The only true variable cost of a prison is consumable items (food, clothing, hygiene items, etc.).

When they discuss the cost of execution vs. the cost of imprisoning they are taking the total cost and dividing it by the number of units. Now to be fair, the volumes in a prison system are significantly much higher than the number of death row inmates which typically yields a lower unit cost. Of course some legitimate drivers of the argument that it is more costly for a death penalty vs. incarceration:

1. Death penalty cases tend to cost more due to the number of lawyers, expert witnesses, etc. involved in the original case
2. Length of death row cases tend to be longer utilizing more resources longer.
3. As mentioned before, numerous mandatory appeals process, is a costly part of death penalty convictions. One could argue if you eliminated the appeals process (not saying I am), you could eliminate cost because of reduced need for judges, lawyers, bailiffs, etc.
4. The cost of housing a death row inmate is more costly, due to isolated units, higher guard (and total staff) to inmate ratios. Considering that the average death-row inmate serves 15 years before execution compared to 3 years for a typical felon. you could see how the cost of one is higher than the cost of another (this f course does not tak in to consideration the type of crime and I'm sure if you were to isolate similar crimes, the disparity would be reduced.
5. and of course the ancillary costs of the actual execution which probably doesn't add a whole lot of costs in the grand scheme of things

that is wrong to compare it to 3 years since supposedly the alternative is life. for someone like hernandez he could live 60 years or more in prison. You are telling me that supposedly that is less expensive then excecuting him after 15 years (which is of course frankly obscene since there is no way any death penalty case should take 15 years). there should not be any more real costs of just holding him versus a regular life sentenced felon. if you keep them in isolation i do not see how come it should cost that much more. certainly not 4 times as much.

and of course there are all the down the road health care costs of elderly life sentenced felons. that does not seem to come into the so called cost comparison (those are almost always done by death penalty opponents so anything they claim should be taken witha grain of salt).

 

[Eric_Boyer]

With his sentence what it is, what is the point of throwing more money into prosecuting him for more crimes?

justice for the family of the victim

 

[JoeKing]

justice for the family of the victim

A point that has been made and I have concurred with 10 fold since that post. Thank you for kicking the dead horse.