What teams "O" line gets away with the most holding?

[Fletch]

Top 3 teams who get away with holding:

AFC: Denver and Kansas City

NFC: NY Giants

 

[Kilyin]

It's obvious, at least to me that you don't rewatch the games.

But that's neither here nor there.

Carry on.

I knew some sort of cheapshot wouldn't be far behind. I actually do rewatch the games, but I'm not looking at every play in slow motion and taking notes on Al Johnson.

 

[Sarge]

I knew some sort of cheapshot wouldn't be far behind. I actually do rewatch the games, but I'm not looking at every play in slow motion and taking notes on Al Johnson.

Actually, you don't need to watch them in slow motion.

 

[jimmy40]

I knew some sort of cheapshot wouldn't be far behind. I actually do rewatch the games, but I'm not looking at every play in slow motion and taking notes on Al Johnson.

Talk about propaganda. Al Johnson sucks, hell my wife can see that just walking through the game room while the games on.

 

[Kilyin]

Actually, you don't need to watch them in slow motion.

Apparently you do, or maybe you need to be coaching the team since you're a better talent evaluator of Centers than our coaching staff.

A Center that got "pushed back 10 yards" every play wouldn't be starting in the NFL.

 

[Sarge]

Talk about propaganda. Al Johnson sucks, hell my wife can see that just walking through the game room while the games on.

.............and true.

 

[Kilyin]

Post one clip of him getting pushed back 10 yards. I mean if it's happening every play and the guy is so horrible it shouldn't be hard to find just one clip, right?

Obviously, you two detectives have done your homework and have plenty of evidence to back up your claims.... or you're just talking out the side of your neck.

 

[Sarge]

Apparently you do, or maybe you need to be coaching the team since you're a better talent evaluator of Centers than our coaching staff.
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I never claimed to be a better "evaluator of Centers" than our coaching staff but I appreciate the compliment, I appreciate that very much.

 

[Kilyin]

I never claimed to be a better "evaluator of Centers" than our coaching staff but I appreciate the compliment, I appreciate that very much.

Nice backpeddling there.

Translation from Sargespeak: I don't have a clue what I'm talking about or anything to substantiate it, but when has that ever mattered?

 

[Sarge]

Talk about propaganda. Al Johnson sucks, hell my wife can see that just walking through the game room while the games on.

Would that be in slow motion?

 

[Kilyin]

I seriously can't believe the amount of guys who still believe in Al Johnson. The guy get's shoved back 10 yards before Bledsoe knows where any of his receivers are.

I'm no Bledsoe fan but it's a little difficult throwing the ball when your center is getting shoved into your chest.

:jerk:

 

[Cbz40]

Sarge backpeddle.............that's a laugh.

 

[Kilyin]

And here comes the peanut gallery

 

[Sarge]

Sarge backpeddle.............that's a laugh.

Ya - he's a real hero isn't he peanut?

 

[Kilyin]

I've watched the games plenty, and I've seen the analysis of other credible posters that mesh with my own - Al Johnson is an average/slightly above average Center.

At first I thought maybe you had seen something that I've been missing all season, something that might be easier to spot in slow motion or by viewing a play repeatedly. Then I remembered you're just a clown that likes to stir the pot and make criticisms without having any idea what you're talking about. I'm still waiting for you to show me or point out one single time that Al Johnson has ever been pushed back 10 yards.

 

[Sarge]

...Then I remembered you're just a clown that likes to stir the pot and make criticisms without having any idea what you're talking about. /QUOTE]

Yep - that's ol' Sargey - a real pot stirrer. In fact - I've been banned 6 or 7 times this year alone.

 

[Kilyin]

Stay on topic much?

 

[Sarge]

Stay on topic much?

 

[Kilyin]

That's what I thought. Why don't you go start a LeCharles Bentley thread or something...

 

[Sarge]

That's what I thought. Why don't you go start a LeCharles Bentley thread or something...

See my previous post.