What The Experts Are Saying: Tevin Coleman

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What The Experts Are Saying:

“His violent running style is a joy to watch, but might have to be tempered to extend his career. He is a “race car in the red” on just about every snap and refuses to give in, which leads to many big runs. The biggest concern for teams about Coleman is the uncertainty about whether he can become a more patient runner and improve as a tackle-breaker. Has the burst and top-end speed to be a game-changing running back for a team looking for a workhorse.” – NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein

“With similar body types and run styles, Coleman mirrors a lot of what (DeMarco) Murray does on the football field, running with athleticism, toughness and the home-run ability to carry an offense.” – Dane Brugler

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What The Experts Are Saying:

“His violent running style is a joy to watch, but might have to be tempered to extend his career. He is a “race car in the red” on just about every snap and refuses to give in, which leads to many big runs. The biggest concern for teams about Coleman is the uncertainty about whether he can become a more patient runner and improve as a tackle-breaker. Has the burst and top-end speed to be a game-changing running back for a team looking for a workhorse.” – NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein

“With similar body types and run styles, Coleman mirrors a lot of what (DeMarco) Murray does on the football field, running with athleticism, toughness and the home-run ability to carry an offense.” – Dane Brugler

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So what is your take on Coleman? I mean his fit in Dallas.

I personally like him in the 2nd, but he might be gone by 60.

Good read.
 

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I think Garrett nailed it we need those dirty runs that Demarco gave us. I hate negative runs.
 

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So what is your take on Coleman? I mean his fit in Dallas.

I personally like him in the 2nd, but he might be gone by 60.

Good read.

I keep hearing the comparison of DeMarco Murray and I sort of agree with it. Coleman isn't the most natural fit in a ZBS scheme like Murray, but he can do a lot of other things really well.

I do think he would hit a ton of long runs in DAL. I think he can have a Chris Johnson-like career in Dallas.
 

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I am on board. The kid would be a hit here. I also think he will be there at pick 60, but Dallas will pick Ajayi over him. Karma dictates that this board must rue and given the comments in the last week this would indeed be rue-worthy.
 

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my comparison is Felix jones-similar style,size and speed.
 

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I know the Murray comparisons are popular but I don't see Murray's lateral agility or power. He's McFadden until proven otherwise to me and D-Mac hasn't been a good pro.
 

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my problem is that he wont be successful here because of the way D coordinators want to play us,they will prefer to load the box and see if the RB can grind out the dirty yards,those wide open lanes in college wont be there for Coleman and i dont see him knocking anybody off to get the dirty yards,there is a reason Dmac and Felix couldn't cut it in the league.all RBs lose speed in the NFL but if speed is your only thing then you are going to force the team into 3rd and longs a lot.
 

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my problem is that he wont be successful here because of the way D coordinators want to play us,they will prefer to load the box and see if the RB can grind out the dirty yards,those wide open lanes in college wont be there for Coleman and i dont see him knocking anybody off to get the dirty yards,there is a reason Dmac and Felix couldn't cut it in the league.all RBs lose speed in the NFL but if speed is your only thing then you are going to force the team into 3rd and longs a lot.

Except Coleman faced stacked boxes in college every game.....


I don't like Coleman either but not bc or this
 

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Except Coleman faced stacked boxes in college every game.....


I don't like Coleman either but not bc or this

not a lot but he did.they created space with that zone read and wild cat where he would find a hole and explode through it.
 

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Long TD runs are often relatively well blocked...but Coleman aided each with his speed, breaking arm tackles, etc.

Coleman was also 4th in the nation averaging 3.2 yards after contact. Two of the backs ahead of him were teammates Gurley & Chubb. In the Michigan game for example, he had to grind out some tough yards. The wildcat was used at times in that game because of the putrid QB play. They played on IU's side of the LOS a great deal knowing Sudfeld wasn't there & were the nations #15 run D. Coleman also faced the nations #1 & #3 run defenses...plus the eventual national champs who ranked #34 nationally.

Murray gained nearly 900 of his yards before contact last season. Prior to that, he was sometimes criticized for not finishing runs & going down on long runs. And according to Demarco himself in his Philly PC, he didn't have to face a ton of 8-9 man fronts because of the surrounding talent on offense.

I think DM & Coleman run with a similar 'passion'...which ultimately led to Murray being a workhorse behind a very good OL last season. He also began to seek contact, rather than avoid it as he had done at times in the past. That's an area where RB's should pick their battles IMO. Coleman displayed his grit/toughness by doing a great deal of what he did, while playing with a broken bone in his foot...just as Garrett alluded to Murray setting the tone for the team by playing with a broken hand.

There are several good backs that the Boys brought in that I'd be happy with. And there are some questions/concerns with most of them.
 

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not a lot but he did.they created space with that zone read and wild cat where he would find a hole and explode through it.

unless you actually watched the games (not highlights) you have no concept of just how stacked the boxes were in most of the games Coleman was in last year. The opposing D's had absolute contempt for the Indiana pass game and totally sold out to stop the run. And he still got 2000 yards. I guess you really do not get it.
 

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unless you actually watched the games (not highlights) you have no concept of just how stacked the boxes were in most of the games Coleman was in last year. The opposing D's had absolute contempt for the Indiana pass game and totally sold out to stop the run. And he still got 2000 yards. I guess you really do not get it.

And THIS is EXACTLY why I want him. I personally have him ranked 2nd to Gurley because of his "complete" game at this point. Gordon still has to prove that he can catch and block.
 

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I know the Murray comparisons are popular but I don't see Murray's lateral agility or power. He's McFadden until proven otherwise to me and D-Mac hasn't been a good pro.
He's a poor man's Chris Johnson.
 

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unless you actually watched the games (not highlights) you have no concept of just how stacked the boxes were in most of the games Coleman was in last year. The opposing D's had absolute contempt for the Indiana pass game and totally sold out to stop the run. And he still got 2000 yards. I guess you really do not get it.

I can see the OL issue as a reason to rank Coleman over Gordon; however, a big part of Coleman's game was just outrunning defenders and that won't happen very often in the NFL. The other issue I saw is the defenses would bust through their OL and into the backfield, but if Coleman made the 1st guy miss and got past the line, then the defenders were all out of position and he had a clean path to a big run. Indiana's OL did take advantage of the aggressiveness of defenses against them and often were able to steer the penetrating defenders away just enough for Coleman to get out of the backfield which again resulted in no LBs in position to defend him because they were all in the offensive backfield.

I think both Coleman and Gordon are decent prospects but many of their big plays in college just won't translate to the NFL where there are LBs that run as fast as they do. They will have to be inside runner to succeed in the NFL and if they were being ranking strictly on their inside runs in college I think they would rank lower.
 

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I notice Mayock just rated the Coleman 5th best RB.
 

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I don't know much about David Johnson or Buck Allen. Johnson is a tremendous receiver, and that's about the extent of my knowledge on these two. I've watched a ton of Mike Davis video and he looks to be a pretty good banger. I hope the scout is right and we end up selecting the offensive rookie of the year in the third or fourth round instead of the first or second. I'm not greedy or anything.
 
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