What the heck was going on with the secondary?

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Carr getting worked over by Brandon Marshall....50 Million just doesn't buy you what it used to....

Clairborne thinking he had safety help on Hester for TD....

McCray caught out of position numerous times.....

Jenkins @ safety........just doesn't look right.

Cowboys have some serious problems @ the safety position...And the communication problems are the most glaring.

If Brandon Carr is gonna cover like that.....then it may be best to move him to free safety.

Get Jenkins on the corner where he belongs.....

I'm starting to think Rob Ryan may not be the answer in Dallas either.

There was a reason why Cleveland and Oakland let him go:confused:

Guys are constantly out of position....Late coming in on the field when substituting.

Rob Ryan just continues to out think himself with all of these stupid blitz packages that ends up dropping Ware in coverage...And getting no pressure

I'll say this...When the Cowboys lose....they don't just lose. They get killed.

As a fan....I can take a loss. But this repeated hype machine to get this team up year after year to mask this teams deficiencies has got to stop.
 
Somehow they were managing to isolate Marshall on a safety and he ran right past them. Carr just got flat out beat the times he was matched up with him. It happens; Marshall is a good player. Still, Sharper was ripping our defensive game plan on NFL Network after the game.
 
links18;4764382 said:
Somehow they were managing to isolate Marshall on a safety and he ran right past them. Carr just got flat out beat the times he was matched up with him. It happens; Marshall is a good player. Still, Sharper was ripping our defensive game plan on NFL Network after the game.

I have no idea what the heck we were doing in the secondary. Alot of the time we were in zone coverage.................we have man to man cover corners and we were playing zone in at least half the defensive snaps.


I am thinking Buddy Ryan's spawn and the Boy Wonder both need to go.
 
Maybe because they are overrated? Just because you draft a guy in the top 10 and throw $50mill at someone, does not mean they will play to those standards.

I see the same crap as last year. Not making plays on the ball. Breakdowns at the worst time. Teams just picking them apart all the way down the field. Nothing at all has changed with this defense overall.
 
carr is who the chiefs thought he was?

damn he was awful tonight.

he was so bad the refs gave him a free one on the mccray tipped pass while he was mugging marshall in the endzone.
 
They were exposed, but they did a decent job for half of the game. The defensive line got no push and that will expose any secondary, no matter who is back there. At times, it looked like only Ware was rushing and the rest were wobbling around.

A DLine makes a dominant defense, not a secondary. I am happy with Carr and Mo, but they can only do so much w/o a pass rush.
 
Blackspider214;4764399 said:
Maybe because they are overrated? Just because you draft a guy in the top 10 and throw $50mill at someone, does not mean they will play to those standards.

I see the same crap as last year. Not making plays on the ball. Breakdowns at the worst time. Teams just picking them apart all the way down the field. Nothing at all has changed with this defense overall.


:bow:
 
Floaty;4764377 said:
Carr getting worked over by Brandon Marshall....50 Million just doesn't buy you what it used to....

Clairborne thinking he had safety help on Hester for TD....

McCray caught out of position numerous times.....

Jenkins @ safety........just doesn't look right.

Cowboys have some serious problems @ the safety position...And the communication problems are the most glaring.

If Brandon Carr is gonna cover like that.....then it may be best to move him to free safety.

Get Jenkins on the corner where he belongs.....

I'm starting to think Rob Ryan may not be the answer in Dallas either.

There was a reason why Cleveland and Oakland let him go:confused:

Guys are constantly out of position....Late coming in on the field when substituting.

Rob Ryan just continues to out think himself with all of these stupid blitz packages that ends up dropping Ware in coverage...And getting no pressure

I'll say this...When the Cowboys lose....they don't just lose. They get killed.

As a fan....I can take a loss. But this repeated hype machine to get this team up year after year to mask this teams deficiencies has got to stop.

Excellent observations and post Floaty. The secondary which was the strength of the team the first 3 games looked completely out of sorts, especially in the second half. And I agree about Rob Ryan, sometimes he complicates things way too much. Dropping Ware in coverage as much as he does is pure stupidity. It was not as bad as Seattle however.
 
Why do we send our other rush end out in coverage on third downs?

Why was Butler one on one with Marshall in the slot?
 
Don't really blame the secondary I blame the front seven. Those guys couldn't get pressure on Cutler which is pathetic considering their OL is horrible. No matter how talented your secondary guys are if you can't get pressure they will get torched.
 
BTX;4764422 said:
Carr looked as bad as Newman.

:laugh2:

I like how everyone acts like Marshall is some scrub. He's one of the best wideouts in pro football. He simply had no one who could get him the ball consistently in Miami. Now he's playing with Cutler who is a very good quarterback when he actually has time like he did tonight.

I'm really getting sick of Dez and his inconsistent play. I'd trade him for Marshall in a heartbeat.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4764420 said:
Don't really blame the secondary I blame the front seven. Those guys couldn't get pressure on Cutler which is pathetic considering their OL is horrible. No matter how talented your secondary guys are if you can't get pressure they will get torched.

Yea, the Bears oline is trash and we made them look like freaking all stars out there tonight.


Pathetic.
 
I have seen a ton of Dallas football.

Claiborn is a player.

This was his 4th game as a pro. He shows skills that are superior.

They all get beat. Every one of them, including Reavis.

Mo is the real deal.
 
TwoDeep3;4764432 said:
I have seen a ton of Dallas football.

Claiborn is a player.

This was his 4th game as a pro. He shows skills that are superior.

They all get beat. Every one of them, including Reavis.

Mo is the real deal.
Yeah, Mo got beat on that that TD to hester ,I believe he thought he had safety help. Mo has been very solid this year though. I know he is a gem. Carr looked like crap I guess like Cowboys&lakersFan said Marshall will do that to you at times. I thought the back end really misses Church.
 
Our d gave up 20 and considering how bad the o was that's not bad. The o was a turnover machine and scored more for the bears than they did for us. The d is not to blame. When your o avg 16 ppg ist kind of hard to win.
 
TwoDeep3;4764432 said:
I have seen a ton of Dallas football.

Claiborn is a player.

This was his 4th game as a pro. He shows skills that are superior.

They all get beat. Every one of them, including Reavis.

Mo is the real deal.

Yes....Mo is the real deal. And I suspect he thought he had inside help

I put this one on the safety......I'll have to go back and watch the tape...but if I had to guess it might have been McCray. Seemed like the Bears were trying to get him in pick plays all night long.

The legend of 2Deep3 lives:laugh2:
 
Floaty;4764448 said:
Yes....Mo is the real deal. And I suspect he thought he had inside help

I put this one on the safety......I'll have to go back and watch the tape...but if I had to guess it might have been McCray. Seemed like the Bears were trying to get him in pick plays all night long.

The legend of 2Deep3 lives:laugh2:

Only in your mind Floaty.
 
The fumble Mo forced was pretty incredible I don't care what the call was.
 
To be fair to the defense and Rob Ryan.. they only let up 20 points. Not a terrible day considering how bad it actually looked.
 

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