What This Loss Really Means

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Everyone can agree that yesterday's loss was devestating. Despite dominating a game for 50 minutes against one of the better teams in the NFL with a rookie OL, without our 3 top CB's for most of the game and in a hostile stadium the Cowboys lost only because of their miscues - not the opponents ability.

But what does this loss really mean? Plain and simple the only thing it means is:

1. We cannot go undefeated this season
2. We are 1 game behind the NFC East leaders and NFC leaders
3. We are still in the hunt for the NFC East crown and the playoffs
4. We we will finish somewhere between 15-1 and 0-16

That is it. Outside of those facts everything is speculation and opinion (mostly biased) about what we will or will not accomplish this season. I do not know how this team will respond to this loss, or how they will overcome the injuries and the learning curves of the young players, or how they will (will not) continue to adapt to the new defensive scheme. But I do feel this team is heading in the right direction.

Jason Garrett has the opportunity to use this loss as a motivational tool and I believe he will. The team played well enough to win against a upper tier team and knows that it can compete even in facing the obstacles I mentioned above. Garrett will have this team ready to play Sunday and I expect we will see improvements in the quality of play. This team has as much talent on it as any of the other elite teams and once they get over the hump we will look back to the these times as the learning and development that had to occur in order for us to get to where we want to be.

I know there are those who do not believe in moral victories. However, when you lose, you have two choices...1) sulk and complain about it, or 2) pinpoint what you did well, embrace those minor in game victories and build on them, as well as study the mistakes and work on correcting them. The way I see it, we had four mistakes that cost us this game: two turnovers, playcalling against the percentages at the goal line, and mental mistakes, i.e. missed block on the punt and pre-snap penalties. These are all correctable and I feel will be corrected.

Many seem to expect this to turnaround quickly always lamenting on the "same ole problems" mantra instead of recognizing that this team is going through a transformation that will not happen overnight. You cannot change 3 years of complacency in half a season and shortened preseason. It will take time. What I do have faith in, is that Jason will change the mindset of this team, will always field a competitive team and will eventually mold this team into winners. It may or may not happen this year, but I believe it will happen.

I expect the negative Nancies will trash this thread with the "We are the Cowboys our history dictates we have wins not moral victories you're a loser if you believe in moral victories" To you, I say leave your sense of entitlement at the door. Our history does not dictate that we have a right to win. It just means we have memories we can look back upon and marvel at our success. 32 teams have the same goal and all 32 teams work as hard as they can to achieve that goal. It is the hard work, motivation, the right pieces in place at the right time and a little bit of luck that will dictate who will win...not because you are the Dallas Cowboys and our history demands it.
 
The team looks good but they are still choke prone.

Hopefully we can get to the post season and not have these off the wall mistakes happen to us.

It just seems like it's apart of Cowboy football.

As long as the defense plays good we should have a good season though.
 
I agree with you 100%. Our past success has nothing to do with our future success.
I believe this team will rally behind themselves as well as the coaching staff as they know they can hang with one of the best teams we will play this year.

Its starting to sound like an "its us against the world" type of locker room.
I for one like that mentality.
 
CATCH17;4108141 said:
The team looks good but they are still choke prone.

Hopefully we can get to the post season and not have these off the wall mistakes happen to us.

It just seems like it's apart of Cowboy football.

As long as the defense plays good we should have a good season though.

Maybe we're getting all that out of the way early and we'll be fine for a playoff run.
 
DallasInDC;4108128 said:
Everyone can agree that yesterday's loss was devestating. Despite dominating a game for 50 minutes against one of the better teams in the NFL with a rookie OL, without our 3 top CB's for most of the game and in a hostile stadium the Cowboys lost only because of their miscues - not the opponents ability.

But what does this loss really mean? Plain and simple the only thing it means is:

1. We cannot go undefeated this season
2. We are 1 game behind the NFC East leaders and NFC leaders
3. We are still in the hunt for the NFC East crown and the playoffs
4. We we will finish somewhere between 15-1 and 0-16

That is it. Outside of those facts everything is speculation and opinion (mostly biased) about what we will or will not accomplish this season. I do not know how this team will respond to this loss, or how they will overcome the injuries and the learning curves of the young players, or how they will (will not) continue to adapt to the new defensive scheme. But I do feel this team is heading in the right direction.

Jason Garrett has the opportunity to use this loss as a motivational tool and I believe he will. The team played well enough to win against a upper tier team and knows that it can compete even in facing the obstacles I mentioned above. Garrett will have this team ready to play Sunday and I expect we will see improvements in the quality of play. This team has as much talent on it as any of the other elite teams and once they get over the hump we will look back to the these times as the learning and development that had to occur in order for us to get to where we want to be.

I know there are those who do not believe in moral victories. However, when you lose, you have two choices...1) sulk and complain about it, or 2) pinpoint what you did well, embrace those minor in game victories and build on them, as well as study the mistakes and work on correcting them. The way I see it, we had four mistakes that cost us this game: two turnovers, playcalling against the percentages at the goal line, and mental mistakes, i.e. missed block on the punt and pre-snap penalties. These are all correctable and I feel will be corrected.

Many seem to expect this to turnaround quickly always lamenting on the "same ole problems" mantra instead of recognizing that this team is going through a transformation that will not happen overnight. You cannot change 3 years of complacency in half a season and shortened preseason. It will take time. What I do have faith in, is that Jason will change the mindset of this team, will always field a competitive team and will eventually mold this team into winners. It may or may not happen this year, but I believe it will happen.

I expect the negative Nancies will trash this thread with the "We are the Cowboys our history dictates we have wins not moral victories you're a loser if you believe in moral victories" To you, I say leave your sense of entitlement at the door. Our history does not dictate that we have a right to win. It just means we have memories we can look back upon and marvel at our success. 32 teams have the same goal and all 32 teams work as hard as they can to achieve that goal. It is the hard work, motivation, the right pieces in place at the right time and a little bit of luck that will dictate who will win...not because you are the Dallas Cowboys and our history demands it.

Great post, this game shows we can compete with any team in the NFL.
 
DallasInDC;4108128 said:
Everyone can agree that yesterday's loss was devestating. Despite dominating a game for 50 minutes against one of the better teams in the NFL with a rookie OL, without our 3 top CB's for most of the game and in a hostile stadium the Cowboys lost only because of their miscues - not the opponents ability.

But what does this loss really mean? Plain and simple the only thing it means is:

1. We cannot go undefeated this season
2. We are 1 game behind the NFC East leaders and NFC leaders
3. We are still in the hunt for the NFC East crown and the playoffs
4. We we will finish somewhere between 15-1 and 0-16

That is it. Outside of those facts everything is speculation and opinion (mostly biased) about what we will or will not accomplish this season. I do not know how this team will respond to this loss, or how they will overcome the injuries and the learning curves of the young players, or how they will (will not) continue to adapt to the new defensive scheme. But I do feel this team is heading in the right direction.

Jason Garrett has the opportunity to use this loss as a motivational tool and I believe he will. The team played well enough to win against a upper tier team and knows that it can compete even in facing the obstacles I mentioned above. Garrett will have this team ready to play Sunday and I expect we will see improvements in the quality of play. This team has as much talent on it as any of the other elite teams and once they get over the hump we will look back to the these times as the learning and development that had to occur in order for us to get to where we want to be.

I know there are those who do not believe in moral victories. However, when you lose, you have two choices...1) sulk and complain about it, or 2) pinpoint what you did well, embrace those minor in game victories and build on them, as well as study the mistakes and work on correcting them. The way I see it, we had four mistakes that cost us this game: two turnovers, playcalling against the percentages at the goal line, and mental mistakes, i.e. missed block on the punt and pre-snap penalties. These are all correctable and I feel will be corrected.

Many seem to expect this to turnaround quickly always lamenting on the "same ole problems" mantra instead of recognizing that this team is going through a transformation that will not happen overnight. You cannot change 3 years of complacency in half a season and shortened preseason. It will take time. What I do have faith in, is that Jason will change the mindset of this team, will always field a competitive team and will eventually mold this team into winners. It may or may not happen this year, but I believe it will happen.

I expect the negative Nancies will trash this thread with the "We are the Cowboys our history dictates we have wins not moral victories you're a loser if you believe in moral victories" To you, I say leave your sense of entitlement at the door. Our history does not dictate that we have a right to win. It just means we have memories we can look back upon and marvel at our success. 32 teams have the same goal and all 32 teams work as hard as they can to achieve that goal. It is the hard work, motivation, the right pieces in place at the right time and a little bit of luck that will dictate who will win...not because you are the Dallas Cowboys and our history demands it.

awesome post. :D
 
Thank you for not freaking out like the others. It was 1 game, on the road, against a team that everyone expect to be at least a top 10 team if not better.

Lets get ready for next week
 
CATCH17;4108141 said:
The team looks good but they are still choke prone.Hopefully we can get to the post season and not have these off the wall mistakes happen to us.

It just seems like it's apart of Cowboy football.

As long as the defense plays good we should have a good season though.

I think this is one of the biggest changes that Garrett needs to make - the mental makeup of this team. If he can instill the right mindset of we will win this game no matter what type of mentality you will see the choke aspect start to dissipitate. It seems once we make a big mistake, it is always followed by several more (the snow ball effect). It wasn't one mistake that beat us, but the culmination of 3 huge mistakes in a 4 min period. This team needs to be mentally stronger to overcome that first mistake and to say to the other team "you got lucky on that one..we gave it to you, but it still doesn't matter because you are gonna lose". Once we get to that point I think you will see some of those lucky bounces start to go our way, some of the calls the refs make we lean more to our side, and our opponents will have more of the mistake snow ball effect. Basically you start to create your own good luck.
 
Vertigo_17;4108243 said:
Thank you for not freaking out like the others. It was 1 game, on the road, against a team that everyone expect to be at least a top 10 team if not better.

Lets get ready for next week

The good thing is if you are going to lose a game (and I am pretty sure all 32 teams will this year) that is one of the best games to lose - a non divisional, non conference loss to a team that could potentially beat the other teams in our divsion. This loss should have the least impact on our playoff chances.
 
Nothing wrong with looking on the positive side of things, however, this is the NFL. When you have a team down, you need to slit their throat and end it. We play in the NFC. There are two wildcard teams if you don't win your division.

Lets look at the 5 playoff spots and the teams who will be contending for them.

Eagles
Giants
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Green Bay
Tampa
Atlanta
Saints
Dallas

There are some damn solid teams there, and if you get an opportunity for a win, you need to take it. We handed it to the Jets on a silver platter.
The fact of the matter remains...when you are up 14 in the 4th, there is simply no excuse not to win. That is why since 1960, no Dallas Cowboys team has ever done it.
 
CATCH17;4108141 said:
The team looks good but they are still choke prone.

Hopefully we can get to the post season and not have these off the wall mistakes happen to us.

It just seems like it's apart of Cowboy football.

As long as the defense plays good we should have a good season though.



If you expect we'll have a good season, and you know that we've made a lot of significant changes to improve in the mental error/mistake/turnover department, then what in the world have you been freaking out about the last two days?
 
CowboyWay;4108268 said:
Nothing wrong with looking on the positive side of things, however, this is the NFL. When you have a team down, you need to slit their throat and end it. We play in the NFC. There are two wildcard teams if you don't win your division.

Lets look at the 5 playoff spots and the teams who will be contending for them.

Eagles
Giants
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Green Bay
Tampa
Atlanta
Saints
Dallas

There are some damn solid teams there, and if you get an opportunity for a win, you need to take it. We handed it to the Jets on a silver platter.
The fact of the matter remains...when you are up 14 in the 4th, there is simply no excuse not to win. That is why since 1960, no Dallas Cowboys team has ever done it.

It is not the Cowboy Way. How can you be confident that this team er I mean QB will not choke again with a 14 point lead in the 4th quarter? You have to be concerned here.
 
Yes, and some of those team lost yesterday too.
We had every opportunity to win, but didnt

Hopefully we are ready for next week and the next 14 games
 
I was going to say it means we're 0-1 after Week 1.

Pittsburgh is 0-1, got housed in Baltimore, and they were in the Super Bowl 7 months ago.

Football's a crazy game.
 
CowboyWay;4108268 said:
Nothing wrong with looking on the positive side of things, however, this is the NFL. When you have a team down, you need to slit their throat and end it. We play in the NFC. There are two wildcard teams if you don't win your division.

Lets look at the 5 playoff spots and the teams who will be contending for them.

Eagles
Giants
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Green Bay
Tampa
Atlanta
Saints
Dallas

There are some damn solid teams there, and if you get an opportunity for a win, you need to take it. We handed it to the Jets on a silver platter.
The fact of the matter remains...when you are up 14 in the 4th, there is simply no excuse not to win. That is why since 1960, no Dallas Cowboys team has ever done it.

I think you meant 6 playoff spots. And I agree with only 16 games you need to get every victory you can get...especially the ones you were supposed to win (like last night) With that said, every team on your list will lose at least one game they weren't supposed to. Last night will even itself out with some of those teams on your list.

I have to say, after looking at that list, I feel better about our chances of making the playoffs this year. I only see one maybe two teams that I would willing to bet will make the playoffs (GB and maybe Eagles). Otherwise, I think we have a better chance than at least 4 of those teams and equal chance with the other 5 (of course any given Sunday always applies).

CowboyWay;4108268 said:
when you are up 14 in the 4th, there is simply no excuse not to win. That is why since 1960, no Dallas Cowboys team has ever done it.

Yet you know eventually it would happen...statistical probabilites dictates that outcome would have to happen sometimes. Unfortunately last night was that time...now hopefully we can go another 200+ games without a loss when we have a 14 point lead but it is highly unlikely.
 
CowboyWay;4108268 said:
Nothing wrong with looking on the positive side of things, however, this is the NFL. When you have a team down, you need to slit their throat and end it. We play in the NFC. There are two wildcard teams if you don't win your division.

Lets look at the 5 playoff spots and the teams who will be contending for them.

Eagles
Giants
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Green Bay
Tampa
Atlanta
Saints
Dallas

There are some damn solid teams there, and if you get an opportunity for a win, you need to take it. We handed it to the Jets on a silver platter.
The fact of the matter remains...when you are up 14 in the 4th, there is simply no excuse not to win. That is why since 1960, no Dallas Cowboys team has ever done it.

well like he said, the entitlement ends here with Garrett and that might include some of us fans too. We didn't win, you get over it. Remember 1993 when Emmitt held out? we lost the first two games, but the team did not let those get to them and went on to win another superbowl. We lost one here that almost all of us down deep honestly thought we would, but we played them very well and with mistakes and injuries. There is alot to build on from this game depending on which atitude the team adopts, the one you present here where it is like "you still cannot win" "you choke" or the atitude that this game shown us alot and tough to see a win slip through our fingers but we showed them something and ourselves and that is that we can beat anyone if we work as a team and learn from our mistakes now.
 

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