What was Dak's finest clutch moment as our starter?

[McKDaddy]

Does Troy Aikman have any big time throws?


And my mistake what question did I not answer?

This is the question. One last time on the play in NE, If he misses the pass, is your reaction "Ahh, it was gonna be tough to complete that" or "How the H did he miss that"?

Of course Aikman did. Every NFL QB has some big time throws and \ or clutch plays. But not every play at a big moment is a big time or clutch play for an individual. Dak's pass on CD's first TD pass was more clutch than the OT pass. Putting a ball up & over the defense & dropping it in while hitting the receiver in stride as he reaches the back of the end zone is not easy. But it's also expected at the NFL level. You expect anyone who takes the field in the NFL to be capable of making that play even though it isn't easy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is the question. One last time on the play in NE, If he misses the pass, is your reaction "Ahh, it was gonna be tough to complete that" or "How the H did he miss that"?

Of course Aikman did. Every NFL QB has some big time throws and \ or clutch plays. But not every play at a big moment is a big time or clutch play for an individual. Dak's pass on CD's first TD pass was more clutch than the OT pass. Putting a ball up & over the defense & dropping it in while hitting the receiver in stride as he reaches the back of the end zone is not easy. But it's also expected at the NFL level. You expect anyone who takes the field in the NFL to be capable of making that play even though it isn't easy.

Ok I thought I answered when I said the throw wasn’t tough but yes if he misses the throw I would’ve said “how’d he miss that”.

Like I said earlier…I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but you’re holding Dak to an impossible standard. We never judge the throw of a game winner. We’d never do that with anyone.

We for sure don’t do it with Aikman.

 

[McKDaddy]

Ok I thought I answered when I said the throw wasn’t tough but yes if he misses the throw I would’ve said “how’d he miss that”.

Like I said earlier…I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but you’re holding Dak to an impossible standard. We never judge the throw of a game winner. We’d never do that with anyone.

We for sure don’t do it with Aikman.

I don't understand about holding Dak to an impossible standard. I stated that I apply the criteria to everyone, not just QB's and certainly not just Dak.

To be clear, the title of the thread is Dak's finest clutch moments. So, my comments were primarily about plays that would meet both criteria. ie Dak making a high level play at a critical time.

I wasn't saying that Dak never makes high level plays. But I do judge "high level" by NFL standards. If a defender falls down & the QB hits the receiver for a 40 yard walkoff TD, it's a big play at a clutch time but it isn't a high level QB \ Receiver play.

Don't understand the reference to Aikman. The dynasty years were largely about we are going to do our thing you know it's coming & still can't stop it. In the passing game that was largely reliant on Troy being able to put the ball exactly where it needed to be when it needed to be there. He was making high level plays even by NFL standards.

 

[Kwyn]

"Trolls" only exist in the minds of those who can't get everyone to go along with their detached from reality narrative.

Hmm. You don’t seem to grasp the concept of what a troll actually is. Trolls don’t make good faith arguments. Trolls pour gas on a fire and cackle when the house goes up in flames.

They are as interested in the discomfort and unpleasantness they create as they are in taking an actual position.

 

[McKDaddy]

Hmm. You don’t seem to grasp the concept of what a troll actually is. Trolls don’t make good faith arguments. Trolls pour gas on a fire and cackle when the house goes up in flames.

They are as interested in the discomfort and unpleasantness they create as they are in taking an actual position.

"Troll" as used by a lot of folks on this site is simply a defensive position to try & distract from flaws being exposed in their position.

Since I was replying to someone who uses the term non-stop for the above reason, I wanted to point out that his not making good faith arguments and labeling folks without basis is the worst form of troll.

 

[Kwyn]

"Troll" as used by a lot of folks on this site is simply a defensive position to try & distract from flaws being exposed in their position.

Since I was replying to someone who uses the term non-stop for the above reason, I wanted to point out that his not making good faith arguments and labeling folks without basis is the worst form of troll.

Ok. Understood. Perhaps his usage is overly broad but we do absolutely have some posters who love to start fires.

One of our biggest, most prominent posters is also one of those who is most guilty of the behavior akin to setting a sack of burning crap on a doorstep, ringing the bell and then running to watch from around the corner.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

That’s not it. You said a game winner isn’t a big throw if the OC makes a great play or the receiver is open.

So then I asked to give me a example of what you’re saying and you say you don’t have anything.

I even googled some Mahomes big throws and most of them are Kelce doing the work. Then I did Josh Allen….Diggs and Davis doing the work. You just have a different standard that I don’t believe is realistic.

Like has Troy Aikman made any big throws to you?

He doesn't need big throws as the photo speaks for itself......

Now please don't compare egg-laying Prescott with the above greatness.........insults the entire history of the Cowboys and the NFL!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't understand about holding Dak to an impossible standard. I stated that I apply the criteria to everyone, not just QB's and certainly not just Dak.

To be clear, the title of the thread is Dak's finest clutch moments. So, my comments were primarily about plays that would meet both criteria. ie Dak making a high level play at a critical time.

I wasn't saying that Dak never makes high level plays. But I do judge "high level" by NFL standards. If a defender falls down & the QB hits the receiver for a 40 yard walkoff TD, it's a big play at a clutch time but it isn't a high level QB \ Receiver play.

Don't understand the reference to Aikman. The dynasty years were largely about we are going to do our thing you know it's coming & still can't stop it. In the passing game that was largely reliant on Troy being able to put the ball exactly where it needed to be when it needed to be there. He was making high level plays even by NFL standards.

I guess we will just agree to disagree. You won’t show any examples of what you’re saying quarterbacks do so I don’t really know what else to say.

 

[Momanpr100]

If he misses the pass, is your reaction "Ahh, it was gonna be tough to complete that" or "How the H did he miss that"?

If he makes the pass with pressure in his face while also having to jump while making the pass, I'm saying to myself that's a good pass. The walk off makes it better, while getting injured on the play makes it even better. But you have you're own "criteria"

 

[Swagger]

So the 2 playoff wins didn't matter, only the ones lost. Got it. Talk about excuses for the other teams lol

The Bucs were terrible and the Cowboys were the far superior team. The Cowboys win that game even with a practice squad QB Cooper Rush. The Cowboys beat a far better team in the Bengals with Rush at QB earlier in the season. To me it was a gimme like Romo's first play off win. But credit to Romo for stepping up when required against the Lions for his team's second play off win against a strong front 7 and Superbowl winning QB.

The Seahawks win does count even though the Cowboys were at home with the stronger roster and somehow the better coaching on the night. That game can be added to the list.

 

[McKDaddy]

If he makes the pass with pressure in his face while also having to jump while making the pass, I'm saying to myself that's a good pass. The walk off makes it better, while getting injured on the play makes it even better. But you have you're own "criteria"

What are you talking about? He didn't have any pressure in his face on that play?

 

[leeblair]

For instance with Romo, I can think of a couple like Buffalo Bills 07, Giants 14, Commanders 14, etc


What would you say is Dak's finest clutch moment thus far? Cheers

When he was injured in last year's opening game, allowing Cooper Rush to save the season.

 

[diamonddelts]

Dak's biggest moment? The first time he ran without flippers on.

 

[Captain-Crash]

hasn't happened yet.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

For instance with Romo, I can think of a couple like Buffalo Bills 07, Giants 14, Commanders 14, etc


What would you say is Dak's finest clutch moment thus far? Cheers

When Zeke snapped the ball to Deek and he completed a fine pass to Turpin against the 49ers in the 2022 Divisional playoffs. A fine, fine pass it was, wot?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yet, more & more people are coming to the conclusion that the concerns I raised as far back as 2017 are valid.

BTW, You are one of the poster children most of this board thinks of when it comes to failed evaluations.

That was harsh. Heh.
@America's Cowboy dodged a bullet here.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Actually more and more people are coming to Daks defense and praising his talent.

Every day I see more and more people coming to Deek's defense --- at the liquor store, at the teen night bowling alley, at stylish hair salons and mah jong tournaments. You know, people who know football.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That was harsh. Heh.
@America's Cowboy dodged a bullet here.

Lmao! Bring it, Paco! You and your Dak hating buddies. Who wants some? Let's talk/show facts and see who knows what they are talking about.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Lmao! Bring it, Paco! You and your Dak hating buddies. Who wants some? Let's talk/show facts and see who knows what they are talking about.

Oh, Harold, watch your blood pressure.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Oh, Harold, watch your blood pressure.

Hey, Paco, go take your Mylanta and go to bed. It's way past your bedtime.