What was Jerrys biggest mistake?

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LatinMind;5042398 said:
IMO not drafting Randy Moss. He wouldve prolonged the careers of Irvin, Aikman, and Emmitt. When they announced Ellis' name i was devistated.

Yep, we also never would have had to give up two firsts for Galloway two years later etc
 

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It's been Jerry's repeated mistakes at head coach that's led to the Cowboys longest SB drought in franchise history and only one playoff win in the last 16 years. Sure not selecting Randy Moss was a mistake in the 98 NFL draft it would have saved the Cowboys from burning 2 #1's on Joey Galloway 2 years later but 12 other teams made the same mistake. If any team should be kicking themselves for not selecting Randy Moss it's Tenn who selected Kevin Dyson ahead of him. Had Tenn selected Moss pairing him with Steve McNair that may have put them over the top vs the Rams 2 years later in the SB.

All GM's make mistakes practically every move they make is a roll of the dice but when you continue to make the same mistake of not hiring a quality head coach it's going to keep a team spinning it's wheels year after year. Just about everyone knew the day Campo was hired as head coach he was a mistake and it took 3 straight 5-11 seasons to convince Jerry of it. Just about everyone knew the day Wade was hired he was a mistake he had a long track record that pointed to it. It took him 3 years to suck the life out of a team that Parcell's had going in the right direction.

Just about every realist on this board knew the day Garrett was named head coach he was a mistake. After 2 full seasons under him the Cowboys are right where most of us thought they would be under him MEDIOCRE. He was in over his head as an OC and wasn't ready or qualified to be a head coach so no surprise he's still having issues organizing a team and managing games. Now changes have been made around him and he's being stripped of everything but his title as head coach but like with Campo and Wade Jerry's ego won't allow him to pull the plug until the team is dead and buried. Bringing Garrett back for a 3rd straight season may end up being Jerry's biggest mistake.

He has an aging corp group and a team that isn't responding to Garrett. If he thinks the players are suddenly going to buy into a head coach who's being stripped of what little control they had good luck! Eventually Jerry is going to have to hire a head coach who's done something in the league who will instantly gain the respect of the players.
 

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jerry's biggest mistakes were trading for 2 "superstar" wrs and the hire of dave campo.

joey galloway and then roy unouno.
wr isn't the kind of piece you give up the world for.

campo just never had a shot. he was a great guy who had earned a lot of respect for his defensive knowledge but nfl head coach was above his ceiling.

jimmy--whatever jerry and jimmy did was mutually scathing. jimmy had no desire to grind the way he did in dallas. and you can't run a team the way he did then by nflpa rules. totally different set of rules and jimmy wasnt more than just pretty good in miami once he reset. jerry should have made it seem far less combative and glorified jimmy catering to his ego perhaps but end of the day those two were both going to move on.

randy moss--dallas made the right move. yes they got a lesser player but wr wasnt our issue and we werent a great team even with randy moss. dallas is simply not the easiest city for a guy like moss. he would have been under a huge microscope and quickly become hated by our jaded fan base. ellis was a plus starting de for years. he wasnt ever gonna be a superstar but he presented great value and off-field character. even when he got older and knew the end was near he helped anthony spencer take his job.
 

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jterrell;5045183 said:
randy moss--dallas made the right move. yes they got a lesser player but wr wasnt our issue and we werent a great team even with randy moss. dallas is simply not the easiest city for a guy like moss. he would have been under a huge microscope and quickly become hated by our jaded fan base. ellis was a plus starting de for years. he wasnt ever gonna be a superstar but he presented great value and off-field character. even when he got older and knew the end was near he helped anthony spencer take his job.

Moss would have never become the player he did had he ended up in Dallas. He would have gotten frustrated with the team and QB situation. Aikman was nearing the end of his career due to back issues and repeated concussions and the Cowboys were in deep decline. Moss was a deep threat who would have struggled with the likes of Anthony Wright, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson and the rest of the stiffs the Cowboys suffered with from 2000 until Romo took over in 06. The combination of poor QB an OL play would have spelled doom for a deep threat like Moss much like it did for Joey Galloway. Galloway moved onto Tampa and looked like the receiver he was in Seattle.

We all saw what happened to Moss when he went to Oakland it was the team and QB situation that caused him not to produce. He looked like a completely different player in NE with Brady and company. Had the Cowboys drafted Moss in 98 he probably would have been gone by the time Romo took over in 06. With the team in decline and the lack of a quality QB and OL the Cowboys had a lot of trouble getting the ball down the field which led to Galloway being swapped for Keyshawn a possession receiver.

The same scenario probably would have happened with Moss because at the time the Cowboys needed a receiver who could go over the middle and keep the chains moving. They simply didn't have the QB or the OL to get the ball down the field to a deep threat.
 

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Frozen700;5045668 said:
Another blame Jerry thread.....

cool

Hey, when the thread topics are blame-Jerry topics, I don't have a problem with the thread. After a couple of decades, there are plenty of things to blame the guy for, and you know going in what you're signing up for.

Much better than getting multiple blame-Jerry takes in threads about Felix Jones trying out for the Bengals, or whatever.

Criticism of this team is just fine in my book when it's a legitimate topic and people are trying to be fair and share critical ideas. It's when kneejerk recycled complaints derail other interesting topics that it drives me batty.

I want to create a trophy icon for '1 playoff win in 17 seasons award' that I can give to the first poster who uses that tidbit irrelevantly in any given thread that has nothing to do with the last 17 years. Another 'It's Jerry Jone's fault!' award for the same purpose. Perhaps the recognition of being first will be so rewarding that we won't have to wade through that idea in every third post on every other topic in the Fan Zone the rest of the offseason. 'Repetitive Post of the Day.'
 

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KB1122;5043109 said:
No one has mentioned this one:

Marcus Spears over Aaron Rodgers.

Because everyone knows you can't blame Jerry for this. AT ALL.

Bill Parcells wanted Marcus Spears badly and was the GM at the time. Jerry fought for and got Ware over Merriman as Broaddus has told us but BP was always a big man fan and he said Spears was the key to switching to the 3-4 defense.
 

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Idgit;5045724 said:
Hey, when the thread topics are blame-Jerry topics, I don't have a problem with the thread. After a couple of decades, there are plenty of things to blame the guy for, and you know going in what you're signing up for.

Much better than getting multiple blame-Jerry takes in threads about Felix Jones trying out for the Bengals, or whatever.

Criticism of this team is just fine in my book when it's a legitimate topic and people are trying to be fair and share critical ideas. It's when kneejerk recycled complaints derail other interesting topics that it drives me batty.

I want to create a trophy icon for '1 playoff win in 17 seasons award' that I can give to the first poster who uses that tidbit irrelevantly in any given thread that has nothing to do with the last 17 years. Another 'It's Jerry Jone's fault!' award for the same purpose. Perhaps the recognition of being first will be so rewarding that we won't have to wade through that idea in every third post on every other topic in the Fan Zone the rest of the offseason. 'Repetitive Post of the Day.'

Precisely. I spend more time reading on this forum than I do posting, and if I don't want to read the repetitive Jerry hate I should just be able to avoid the obvious Jerry hate threads. I realize at this point that whining and complaining on this board about him is some weird form of therapy for some of these "fans", but man it's annoying when that type of stuff just takes over other threads for completely different topics.
 

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Proximo;5045808 said:
Precisely. I spend more time reading on this forum than I do posting, and if I don't want to read the repetitive Jerry hate I should just be able to avoid the obvious Jerry hate threads. I realize at this point that whining and complaining on this board about him is some weird form of therapy for some of these "fans", but man it's annoying when that type of stuff just takes over other threads for completely different topics.

Yep. I feel the same way.

But, to each his own. Sometimes it's fun to be really critical on a specific repetitve topic, too. And there are and should be threads for that.

And since he's the GM, he has a legitimate role for criticism in almost every thread topic, too. I also don't mind that, when it's relevant to the topic. But, yeah, the same unrelated anti-Jerry anti-Romo anti-Garrett anti-oganizational bromides over and over in every thread regardless of topic really do ****** debate.

It's a fine line, and hard to enforce with so many dispirited posters after a disappointing season.
 
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