What we know 2014

[theSHOW]

They talked about Spencer the other day, and basically said if Spencers knee isnt fully healed they arent going to try and sign him. Broaddus talked about this being a classic McClay stance.

Another thing Broaddus brought up is the trust that Jerry has in McClay and with him overseeing the draft prospects that we will see a difference in the type of players being sought after.

with all the front 7 injuries a ear ago why even overpay an aging player who missed more games played the last two seasons, 93 also made out with franchise tag cash and is currently on crutches. with all the available 4-3 free agents why keep this 3-4 liability?

 

[theSHOW]

I dont see how anybody outside of Dallas can say what they have in Wilcox at this point. There is plenty of talent there. People forget that Wilcox is the reason Allen was released. Allen wasnt horrible, but Wilcox was stepping into that role. then he had that Quad injury. That was his season. Wilcox fit in that role before his injury. Wasnt perfect but he wasnt putting the team in bad situations that Heath did. People said the same thing about Church in 2012 and this yr he had 136 tackles 3 FF 1 FR and 1 INT. Those are some amazing stats for a safety.I dont know how Weddle made the probowl over church IMHO. church had better stats across the board except they both had 1 int. Im amazed on what church has become in just 2 yrs.

Dallas needs a safety to compete with our young scrubs. Maybe we have something but another young player will help raise the cream. Looking for a FS. Church isn't anywhere near allpro. he made tackles because our front seven was at best a strainer.

 

[LatinMind]

Dallas needs a safety to compete with our young scrubs. Maybe we have something but another young player will help raise the cream. Looking for a FS. Church isn't anywhere near allpro. he made tackles because our front seven was at best a strainer.

If you didnt watch the Chargers, Weddle made the same plays because of the same problem. Bad defense they were 24th in the nfl

 

[LatinMind]

with all the front 7 injuries a ear ago why even overpay an aging player who missed more games played the last two seasons, 93 also made out with franchise tag cash and is currently on crutches. with all the available 4-3 free agents why keep this 3-4 liability?

Theyre thinking probably is if they can get Spencer for cheap, its worth it.

 

[xwalker]

• Restructures will most likely be done for Romo, Ware, Witten, Scandrick, Lee, and Carr. Those will get Dallas about 9mil under the cap March comes. That 9Mil isnt counting the 5.5 mil for Austin because Dallas doesnt get that cap until June. Im sure some bottom end players like Kearse, Irvin, Hayden, Lemon ect will be cut freeing up about another mil in caproom. So Dallas could possibly see 10Mil in capspace.

Only the top 51 contracts count against the cap in the off-season.

Kearse has a cap hit of 645K. Cutting him would move a player like Rayford (495K) into the top 51. That only saves 150K.

The Cowboys are unlikely to cut any of these type players just for cap reasons.

 

[theSHOW]

Theyre thinking probably is if they can get Spencer for cheap, its worth it.

'''''if'''''' he passes a ready to go physical exam. and he won't...he will put the onis on the cowboys paying without firm belief he is ready.

If you didnt watch the Chargers, Weddle made the same plays because of the same problem. Bad defense they were 24th in the nfl

Weddle isn't worthy either. Take the best. Chancellor and Berry

 

[LatinMind]

Only the top 51 contracts count against the cap in the off-season.

Kearse has a cap hit of 645K. Cutting him would move a player like Rayford (495K) into the top 51. That only saves 150K.

The Cowboys are unlikely to cut any of these type players just for cap reasons.

No but they will most likely get cut at some point just to churn the roster. release them to sign other guys,

 

[xwalker]

Some prospects i would love to see in Dallas. Easley in particular. The risk they took on Leary might play into their Easley's favor. But not anything above a 5th round pick. Easley's 2 ACL injuries are going to scare alot of teams. If Dallas could get in in RD5 i would jump for joy. He's a RD1 talent.

Tank Carradine was in a similar situation last year to the one that Easley is in this year. Carradine was drafted in the 2nd round (#40) overall and was on IR all season. I wouldn't count on Easley dropping to the 5th round. I realize that he's had 2 ACL injuries, but the first one was in 2011 and I believe that he played all of 2012 and the beginning of 2013 without a problem in that knee.

 

[xwalker]

No but they will most likely get cut at some point just to churn the roster. release them to sign other guys,

You were specifically referencing them in term of cap space. Churning the roster likely involves other similar players with similar contracts. I don't see them cutting Hayden, the starting 1-tech for all of 2013 prior to training camp. The roster size for training camp is 90. They can do plenty of churning without cutting anybody.

 

[LatinMind]

Tank Carradine was in a similar situation last year to the one that Easley is in this year. Carradine was drafted in the 2nd round (#40) overall and was on IR all season. I wouldn't count on Easley dropping to the 5th round. I realize that he's had 2 ACL injuries, but the first one was in 2011 and I believe that he played all of 2012 and the beginning of 2013 without a problem in that knee.

He might be, but it wont be Dallas. I would love it but they wont.

 

[LatinMind]

You were specifically referencing them in term of cap space. Churning the roster likely involves other similar players with similar contracts. I don't see them cutting Hayden, the starting 1-tech for all of 2013 prior to training camp. The roster size for training camp is 90. They can do plenty of churning without cutting anybody.

Crawford and Bass would push him out eventually.

 

[theSHOW]

You were specifically referencing them in term of cap space. Churning the roster likely involves other similar players with similar contracts. I don't see them cutting Hayden, the starting 1-tech for all of 2013 prior to training camp. The roster size for training camp is 90. They can do plenty of churning without cutting anybody.

The ol' churning definition . So thats what that means . Yeah churning would be senseless roster moves that only jerry's attorney benefits.

 

[xwalker]

Crawford and Bass would push him out eventually.

You're original statement:

• Restructures will most likely be done for Romo, Ware, Witten, Scandrick, Lee, and Carr. Those will get Dallas about 9mil under the cap March comes. That 9Mil isnt counting the 5.5 mil for Austin because Dallas doesnt get that cap until June. Im sure some bottom end players like Kearse, Irvin, Hayden, Lemon ect will be cut freeing up about another mil in caproom. So Dallas could possibly see 10Mil in capspace.

Crawford's cap hit is higher than Hayden's. They are not going to cut Hayden, Kearse, etc.. for the purpose of freeing up cap space. They will be cut if they find better replacements and that is likey to happen during/after training camp.

 

[LatinMind]

You're original statement:

Crawford's cap hit is higher than Hayden's. They are not going to cut Hayden, Kearse, etc.. for the purpose of freeing up cap space. They will be cut if they find better replacements and that is likey to happen during/after training camp.

Replacements in the draft will be there. Kearse isnt the type of DT marinelli wants. Broaddus spoke about McClay talking Marinelli in on him. Kearse rarely played. Kearse sole tackle was in a goaline situation. Hayden started because there was nobody else.

 

[xwalker]

Replacements in the draft will be there. Kearse isnt the type of DT marinelli wants. Broaddus spoke about McClay talking Marinelli in on him. Kearse rarely played. Kearse sole tackle was in a goaline situation. Hayden started because there was nobody else.

How is that relevant to this statement?

• Restructures will most likely be done for Romo, Ware, Witten, Scandrick, Lee, and Carr. Those will get Dallas about 9mil under the cap March comes. That 9Mil isnt counting the 5.5 mil for Austin because Dallas doesnt get that cap until June. Im sure some bottom end players like Kearse, Irvin, Hayden, Lemon ect will be cut freeing up about another mil in caproom. So Dallas could possibly see 10Mil in capspace.

If the replacement is a 4th round pick or higher, then his salary will be higher than Hayden's, Kearse's, etc..

 

[Nightman]

I havent read anything on that, except in mock sites thinking they could use a safety. If you have links id like to read it. I think they need a true FS but i just dont see them moving on from 2 guys they drafted last yr and played alot.

I agree that a cheap vet might be the better route. Another rookie will have the same learning curve that we have seen the last couple years. Someone like Manning that knows the system would be a huge step in fixing the secondary, giving the young guys more time to learn the nuances of the position. Focus the big resources on the DL.

 

[LatinMind]

I agree that a cheap vet might be the better route. Another rookie will have the same learning curve that we have seen the last couple years. Someone like Manning that knows the system would be a huge step in fixing the secondary, giving the young guys more time to learn the nuances of the position. Focus the big resources on the DL.

I agree DL needs to be the top priority. Dallas is already very young in the secondary a vet that knows the system would be better. manning would be a good signing for a yr

 

[waving monkey]

Great post. And I think most is true. I don't think they are enamored with our safeties though. Rumblings Around the league say that we like Pryor and Dix a lot. If they could pull off a trade back and still get one it would be a steal.

I don't see Nix as fit I like the movement of Daqaun Jones a little better

 

[LatinMind]

I don't see Nix as fit I like the movement of Daqaun Jones a little better

He said Dix the safety. Nix will not be a Cowboy.

 

[Rockytop6]

What we know is all in probables, as theres nothing certain in sports. But probable is a big word in the nfl, as the things that are probable for the Cowboys will most likely happen.

• Miles Austin's time in Dallas is over, wether it's a June cut its not know but most likely.This doesnt do anything for you when FA starts but will provide Dallas money to sign picks and have whatevers left for "in-case" injury signings.

• Restructures will most likely be done for Romo, Ware, Witten, Scandrick, Lee, and Carr. Those will get Dallas about 9mil under the cap March comes. That 9Mil isnt counting the 5.5 mil for Austin because Dallas doesnt get that cap until June. Im sure some bottom end players like Kearse, Irvin, Hayden, Lemon ect will be cut freeing up about another mil in caproom. So Dallas could possibly see 10Mil in capspace.

• There is the option of Dallas playing hardball with Ware demanding he takes a pay cut. But i dont see it. The cost of Dallas cutting Ware instead of restructuring him is -1mil basically. so instead of 10Mil say u'd have roughly 9Mil. But u go from being 9mil over the cap in 2015 to being 10mil under with that one cut.

• Resign Dez or Tyron first? Easy answer...Dez Bryant. For one reason only, Tyron is part of the first Rookie pool class, where first round picks have 4 yr deals with a option for the 5th yr. So if i was Dallas i would extend Dez this yr and envoke the option for Tyron next yr and work out an extension.

• Now cutting Austin Miles brings up a little problem for Dallas. They dont have a WR to play the outside if Dez or TW get hurt. Beasley and Harris are slot guys. So they would need to bring in somebody either in FA or the Draft.

A guy that could be had in FA fairly cheap is a guy from Linehan's old team DET
Kris Durham 6'6 218lbs
38 rec 429 yrds 2 TDs

Or go with the draft mid rounds for guys like

Martavis Bryant 6'5 Clemson
Mike Davis 6'0 Texas
Josh Huff 5'11 Oregon
Jeff Janis 6'2 Saginaw Valley
Kevin Norwood 6'2 Alabama

• Anthony Spencer, Dallas seems to want to keep Spencer if he is ready to go, but if his knee isnt ready he wont be in Dallas.

• DL: atleast 1 starter worst case is needed. I think if Spencer is resigned and healthy he will start and Selvie will sub both DE spots and Dallas wont draft a DE high. The will go with DT probably 2 of them high in the draft.

Seems like Dallas is counting on Crawford and Bass to be key contributors on the DL. I actually think this DL couldve survived this yr if Crawford and Bass wouldve been healthy. I think people are going to be suprised with Bass. Going to be a nice come up as a rotational player. Add in a young Vet and a Draft pick would be better IMO. Crawford and Bass are already raw.

Freeagents dont think Dallas will go after a guy like Melton, But a guy like Clinton Mcdonald could come in and kickstart a DL.

Draft prospects
Aaron Donald DT Pitt
Timmy Jernigan DT FSU
Kony Ealy DE Missouri
Will Sutton DT ASU
Kelcy Quarles DT South Carolina
Kareem Martin UNC
Caraun Reid DT Princeton
Dominique Easley DT Florida

Some prospects i would love to see in Dallas. Easley in particular. The risk they took on Leary might play into their Easley's favor. But not anything above a 5th round pick. Easley's 2 ACL injuries are going to scare alot of teams. If Dallas could get in in RD5 i would jump for joy. He's a RD1 talent.

• Alot of people are begging for an OLB but Dallas likes Wilber and Hollomon and wont give up on Carter this yr. Lee defended Carter and said he had the biggest adjustment of everybody on def. The guy is doing something totally different then what he did his first 2 yrs in the NFL. If he still struggles i could see him out of Dallas in 2015. I wouldnt mind seeing Dallas take a LBer like Skov in RD3.

But as of right now, Dallas has:
Sean Lee ILB
Bruce Carter WLB
Justin Durant SLB
Kyle Wilber SLB
Devonte Hollomon ILB

They have some scrubs but i dont expect them to be on the team. Drafting a WLB to backup Carter or compete for a spot wether it be WLB or SLB wouldnt be a bad idea. Skov could play all 3 LBer spots IMO

• Secondary: Heres were i dont agree with most on this forum. I dont like alot of what the Cowboys have right now at Safety, but listening to radio from VR they speak with coaches and they say the Cowboys like Wilcox and Heath. They were rookies who werent ready. They wont have that excuse this yr. But i think Dallas will run with Church and either Wilcox/Heath/Johnson this yr. I could see them picking up another low priced vet later before TC if they dont like what they see in the 3. A guy like Daniel Manning is probably going to be cut and has a history with Marinelli. Could sign a inexpensive 1 yr deal.

Dallas is building something, its not going at the speed as impatient fans want. But thats just the way it is. This team just needs to stay healthy for the most part.

I am a fan of Alabama's Norwood.