What will it take for Bob Hayes to be in Canton?

[Doomsday101]

It will take the Hall finally realizing that there are far to many bias with the current voters to the Hall and change the whole procedure.

As much as I am proud that Aikman and Irvin are there and that Emmitt will soon follow, the Hall has left out far to many players that are deserving about 30 by my count and that is probably conservative.

The voters are about bias mostly not about deserving. Players such as Art Monk, Bob Hayes, Cliff Harris, Charles Haley, Roger Craig, Kenny Stabler, Ray Guy, LC Greenwood, Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Joe Klecko, Drew Pearson, Andre Reed, and Herschel Walker all belong for various reasons but with the present voting crew won't.

Although the PFH of F is better than MLB and I have had the opportunity to visit both, I will probably never again. The Halls are just as much a part of the fans as they are the players and sportswriters. Their reasons to keep a person out have little to nothing that is reasonable just about an opinion of their own which is worth about as much as a cow paddie.

One day I would hope the Hall brings in those that are deserving on that someone starts a true Hall that is about the fans, players and the game not a sportswriters opinion. I would gladly contribute to that Hall on an ongoing basis.

Paul Z. is the only one with any guts to do anything and although I may have disagreed with some of his assestments at least he called a rotten apple a rotten apple.

very good post and some very deserving players you just mentioned. One name that should be a shoe in 1st ballot next season is Bruce Smith I'll be shocked if he does not make it

 

[superpunk]

Man doesn't even have a stone to mark his grave by. How we ever going to get anybody to pay attention to him as a Hall Of Fame player?

~Rant Off~

With a lock-down at the rec center.

It worked for the bloods and crypts.

 

[Vintage]

With a lock-down at the rec center.

It worked for the bloods and crypts.

Crypts?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

With a lock-down at the rec center.

It worked for the bloods and crypts.

Yeah, the Recreation Center. Maybe that's the way to go.

 

[superpunk]

Crypts?

lol...crips, crypts, cryps...crippled people who were born crippled, and those who become disabled later in life, like stupid Christopher Reeve...

 

[jackrussell]

Chances are your right. Dr Z (Paul Zimmerman) resigned from the Selection Committee in protest of the decision to leave Hayes out of the Hall. I would love to see him head up a group to try and get Hayes in where he rightfully belongs.

That's what I thought he did also...but now I'm perplexed. How did he vote for Irvin? Or was this after he did?

 

[Doomsday101]

That's what I thought he did also...but now I'm perplexed. How did he vote for Irvin? Or was this after he did?

Dr Z removed himself after the vote for the 2004 members.

Hayes was close to being elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2004, but was denied the opportunity in the final round of decision making. The decision was marred by controversy, with many claiming that the Hall of Fame Senior Selection Committee had a bias against members of the Dallas Cowboys and other NFL teams. Others believe Hayes' longstanding problems with drug abuse marred his chances. Shortly after the announcement of the new 2004 Hall of Fame members, long-time Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman resigned from the Selection Committee in protest of the decision to leave Hayes out of the Hall.

 

[jackrussell]

There are still a few of the Steelers from the 70's teams they need to get in first...

THE NEXT STEELER?
Sunday, August 5, 2007

LINK

Seven future members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame took the field for the Steelers when they last played the Saints in Canton. That was the 1983 Hall of Fame Game. The Steelers Dynasty of the 1970s was in its last days.

It was the final season for Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris and Mel Blount to wear the black and gold for legendary coach Chuck Noll. Jack Lambert would retire a year later and soon John Stallworth and Mike Webster would follow.

The Steelers will not feature that type of star-studded cast tonight. But just two seasons removed from winning the Super Bowl - their first since their '70s heyday - they do have some guys who will receive HOF consideration.

Hines Ward

Tenth-year receiver Hines Ward, a four-time pick for the Pro Bowl, said the Hall does enter his mind, but never for long.

"Everybody dreams one day of making the Hall of Fame, but it's not our job to (vote)," he said. "If we could, we'd vote all ourselves in."

Ward's credentials, though are shaping up better than most. He came up big on the game's biggest stage, earning MVP honors when the Steelier won Super Bowl XL. He has a reputation as one of the league's toughest receivers and for being a strong leader.

"All I can do," he said, "is just go out and play hard so that when I leave this game and they mention (No.) 86, people can say he's one hell of a ballplayer."

Ward is the team's career receiving leader, surpassing Hall of Famers Lynn Swann and Stallworth. And for Ward, just "having my name mentioned amongst those guys is a huge honor itself."

Alan Faneca

Another Steeler to watch is guard Alan Faneca. He enters his 10th season as a six-time Pro Bowler, starting the last five. He has received numerous All-Pro honors during his career of opening holes for Willie Parker and Jerome Bettis.

Bettis, by the way, looks like the Steeler from Super Bowl XL most likely to enter the Hall. He retired after that season and is eligible in 2011.

Ken Anderson

One man with the 2007 Steelers not to overlook is quarterback coach Ken Anderson.

A two-time finalist for the Hall, Anderson won four NFL passing titles - only Steve Young and Sammy Baugh have more - in 16 seasons with the Bengals. He set a league record for completion percentage (70.55) in 1982, and still holds a number of Bengal passing records, including career yards and TDs.

"Somebody usually brings it up every year about this time," Anderson said of his chances. "If it happens, it happens. Great. But I don't spend a lot of time thinking or worrying about it."

Others

Younger Steelers with time to build impressive résumés are quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and safety Troy Polamalu. They played key roles in winning in the Super Bowl XL. Roethlisberger also is the first quarterback to lead his team to the conference title game in each of his first two seasons. Polamalu enters his fifth year as a three-time Pro Bowler.

COMPILED BY CHRIS BEAVEN

 

[dargonking999]

a shotgun, some beer, and a pick up truck

 

[jackrussell]

Dr Z removed himself after the vote for the 2004 members.

Hayes was close to being elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2004, but was denied the opportunity in the final round of decision making. The decision was marred by controversy, with many claiming that the Hall of Fame Senior Selection Committee had a bias against members of the Dallas Cowboys and other NFL teams. Others believe Hayes' longstanding problems with drug abuse marred his chances. Shortly after the announcement of the new 2004 Hall of Fame members, long-time Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman resigned from the Selection Committee in protest of the decision to leave Hayes out of the Hall.

But there's an article floating around here about how he changed his mind and voted for Irvin. Or is it just the Senior committee he resigned from?

 

[Doomsday101]

But there's an article floating around here about how he changed his mind and voted for Irvin. Or is it just the Senior committee he resigned from?

I really can’t say. I'm sure he knows many people on the committee he may have convinced some of them. After Mike speech I'm sure no one regrets it

 

[iceberg]

But there's an article floating around here about how he changed his mind and voted for Irvin. Or is it just the Senior committee he resigned from?

i think i heard someone talking about it and that person said yes they disliked irvin because of how he was at ESPN, so that's why he previously voted no. but after he thought about it and looked only at #'s, he said he wasn't being fair and changed his vote.

can't remember the name offhand but i remember someone saying that over the weekend.

 

[jackrussell]

I really can’t say. I'm sure he knows many people on the committee he may have convinced some of them. After Mike speech I'm sure no one regrets it

i think i heard someone talking about it and that person said yes they disliked irvin because of how he was at ESPN, so that's why he previously voted no. but after he thought about it and looked only at #'s, he said he wasn't being fair and changed his vote.

can't remember the name offhand but i remember someone saying that over the weekend.

Here's a LINKwhat has me confused on this. From 'Dr. Z's Mailbag'.

I'm upset that Clark Shaughnessy was not one of the Seniors candidates. I lobbied hard for him, was assured by members of the Seniors Committee that he'd be one of their guys, and then got stiffed. I should be used to it. I mean Hickerson and Sanders certainly are more deserving than the guy who brought in the modern T-formation with flankers and man in motion, a formation that's lasted for 67 years, wouldn't you think? Sure, I voted for the two Seniors. If you don't vote for them and clear the decks, you won't have room for your own guys in subsequent years.

Irvin got my vote. I didn't vote for him the year before. Then I sat down and analyzed myself (the psychiatric term for this is "screwing up your own head") and realized that I hadn't voted for him because I couldn't stand him on ESPN TV. The Advice to Selectors brochure is quite clear on this point. "Selectors shall not stiff a guy because of airwaves trash." Given this mandate, and concentrating more on his ability on the field, he became a yea vote

This to me says he never resigned from anything.

 

[iceberg]

Here's a LINKwhat has me confused on this. From 'Dr. Z's Mailbag'.



This to me says he never resigned from anything.

good find - that's what i was referring to.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

I was thrilled to see Irvin make it to the HOF just as I was for Troy last year and will be for Emmitt when he goes in but another year has passed without the addition of Bob Hayes. What will it take for this man to be enshrined with the best? Hayes changed the game of Pro Football and yet is still not part of this elite group and I’m afraid as each year passes the odds become slimmer that he will make it.

In short -- a miracle