What would teams do if they could use any air pressure they wanted?

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If each team could decide whatever air pressure they wanted on footballs while on offense, kick offs, etc, what do you think teams would do? Only caveat is that whatever pressure they chose, they had to use on all balls throughout the game. Example: no deflated balls on onside kicks but full pressure for field goals and another pressure for the offense.

You cant throw a flat ball worth a damn, so I cant see teams completely deflating them. It seems like they'd probably keep them inflated to a range similar to what the rules are now but if a team wanted to use a flat ball, then the defense would know they're only gonna run, it would be hard to kick off, do field goals and extra points. So ,I'm wondering what strategies teams would come up with if there were no constraints.

Would it hurt (or help) the game? Or would it seek its own level and find a range similar to what the rules require now?

Thoughts?
 

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If each team could decide whatever air pressure they wanted on footballs while on offense, kick offs, etc, what do you think teams would do? Only caveat is that whatever pressure they chose, they had to use on all balls throughout the game. Example: no deflated balls on onside kicks but full pressure for field goals and another pressure for the offense.

You cant throw a flat ball worth a damn, so I cant see teams completely deflating them. It seems like they'd probably keep them inflated to a range similar to what the rules are now but if a team wanted to use a flat ball, then the defense would know they're only gonna run, it would be hard to kick off, do field goals and extra points. So ,I'm wondering what strategies teams would come up with if there were no constraints.

Would it hurt (or help) the game? Or would it seek its own level and find a range similar to what the rules require now?

Thoughts?

I've actually given this some thought with the whole deflategate thing going on. I would keep the "K" balls rule as it is now...have the officials prep/maintain/safeguard them. All teams would be on a level playing field (no pun intended) when it comes to kicking. As for the game balls, why not let each team inflate them to their desired psi. I highly doubt that there would be that wide of a range in pressure. Any ball severely under or over inflated would be pretty much useless. In this sense, I didn't see deflategate as that big of a deal. To me, the more egregious foul, by far, was the lying/cover up. If they had just come out and said that they bent the rule on football inflation but didn't think of it as cheating and that they would not do it again, I really doubt this thing would have blown up like it did.
 
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Thanksgiving, out comes an old football.

One made to Patriots specs would be a lot friendlier.

Maybe a company will sell a Brady special.

I don't like old, hard footballs.
 

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If each team could decide whatever air pressure they wanted on footballs while on offense, kick offs, etc, what do you think teams would do? Only caveat is that whatever pressure they chose, they had to use on all balls throughout the game. Example: no deflated balls on onside kicks but full pressure for field goals and another pressure for the offense.

You cant throw a flat ball worth a damn, so I cant see teams completely deflating them. It seems like they'd probably keep them inflated to a range similar to what the rules are now but if a team wanted to use a flat ball, then the defense would know they're only gonna run, it would be hard to kick off, do field goals and extra points. So ,I'm wondering what strategies teams would come up with if there were no constraints.

Would it hurt (or help) the game? Or would it seek its own level and find a range similar to what the rules require now?

Thoughts?

I think they ought to let the offense use whatever pressure they want, honestly. Use kicking balls for kickoffs and balls you can throw better or hold onto better if you want to. The scoring is better for the league, right? It just needs to be the case that it's a fair playing field for everybody.
 

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If each team could decide whatever air pressure they wanted on footballs while on offense, kick offs, etc, what do you think teams would do? Only caveat is that whatever pressure they chose, they had to use on all balls throughout the game. Example: no deflated balls on onside kicks but full pressure for field goals and another pressure for the offense.

You cant throw a flat ball worth a damn, so I cant see teams completely deflating them. It seems like they'd probably keep them inflated to a range similar to what the rules are now but if a team wanted to use a flat ball, then the defense would know they're only gonna run, it would be hard to kick off, do field goals and extra points. So ,I'm wondering what strategies teams would come up with if there were no constraints.

Would it hurt (or help) the game? Or would it seek its own level and find a range similar to what the rules require now?

Thoughts?

I would bet just about anything that other QB's have done the same thing and havent gotten caught.
 

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If each team could decide whatever air pressure they wanted on footballs while on offense, kick offs, etc, what do you think teams would do? Only caveat is that whatever pressure they chose, they had to use on all balls throughout the game. Example: no deflated balls on onside kicks but full pressure for field goals and another pressure for the offense.

You cant throw a flat ball worth a damn, so I cant see teams completely deflating them. It seems like they'd probably keep them inflated to a range similar to what the rules are now but if a team wanted to use a flat ball, then the defense would know they're only gonna run, it would be hard to kick off, do field goals and extra points. So ,I'm wondering what strategies teams would come up with if there were no constraints.

Would it hurt (or help) the game? Or would it seek its own level and find a range similar to what the rules require now?

Thoughts?

Basically, when you cant beat Tom Brady, then rat on him. I like the comment that pointed out this was more or less a coordinated sting operation between the Colts and the NFL. The NFL is just pissed they cant prove anything. And they are going to get diced up in court.
 

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I think they ought to let the offense use whatever pressure they want, honestly. Use kicking balls for kickoffs and balls you can throw better or hold onto better if you want to. The scoring is better for the league, right? It just needs to be the case that it's a fair playing field for everybody.

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Basically, when you cant beat Tom Brady, then rat on him. I like the comment that pointed out this was more or less a coordinated sting operation between the Colts and the NFL. The NFL is just pissed they cant prove anything. And they are going to get diced up in court.

Integrity only matters to those that have it.
 

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My goal wasn't to rehash the whole integrity thing, I was merely curious if anyone could identify a scenario where not controlling the PSI of the ball would give a team an unfair advantage or take away from the game itself. I can't come up with anything and think it would be a non-issue if there wasn't even a rule about it and if that's the case, then imho, there shouldn't be a rule. Worse case scenario, call the penalty in game as a personal foul and avoid all this nonsense after the fact.

Personally, I'm sick of all the damn rules and micromanaging of the game and I don't believe psi is the difference between winning and losing nor do I think one's integrity is defined by whether they obey a stupid law or rule and history is replete with examples of this not to mention the deliberate breaking of the rules that players do in every game, but to each, their own.

I'm most sick about the rule that took away an amazing athletic play by Dez and Calvin and it bothers me they could be legislated away. I heard a comedian comment on this issue by saying that a bunch of unathletic guys who couldn't make a play like Dez/Calvin did if there life depended on it found a way to punish those that can and this cant be good for the game. I thought that was pretty funny and on target.
 
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