What ya think about what Mick said today?

[Big Dakota]

On Talkin Cowboys, Mick said what he's heard from people that have "Played against him", Davis is better suited for RT because he doesn't have to pull as much at G as he's not as quick.


A mauling RG or a mauling RT? Looks like it's one or the other.

Lack the ability to pull, or lack the abilty to match up against RDEs?

Either way, he will probably have weaknesses, and who are we to say what the bigger weakness is? RG(pulling) or RT(Rushers)?

In the end, would we be better off with Davis at RT and Proctor at RG or Colombo at RT and Davis at RG? The reluctance to sign Colombo may be more about the Cowboys desire to play Davis at RT? We shall see.

 

[theogt]

The latter, definitely.

 

[Big Dakota]

I guess i feel the same way, but i'm not on staff.

 

[theogt]

I guess i feel the same way, but i'm not on staff.

I think they definitely want Colombo back. When they don't want to sign someone, they simply don't try at all. I don't think we've ever known Jerry to short change someone in contract negotiations. This is just coming down to two sides disagreeing about a guy's value. I'm sure we'll see it wrapped up before the weekend.

 

[Big Dakota]

My biggest sin is putting too much stock in what that moron Mick says:bang2:


OBTW, i agree with what your sayin.

 

[ENGCowboy]

It all depends on what system you play, do most of your rushing plays require a guard to pull or are you asking Davis to go straight through/overthe top of DL players. Also do we face a lot of speed rushers in our division, my guess is the cowboys, with Strahan, Osi, Cole etc, want Davis at RG with Colombo back with a lot of straight ahead run blocking on the right side. I still think we will see a lot more of lead blocker runs aswell.

 

[Clove]

Personally I'd rather have Davis playing Guard. We need to keep the middle clean for Romo to step into when the D-ends put a wide speed rush on.

Also, he does need to have pulling capability, but I can live with him bull blocking straight ahead, and let Kosier do all the pulling.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

RT may just be the best place......Wade will figure it out soon.

 

[burmafrd]

Davis at tackle is just not going to work with all the speed rushers we face.
Guards do not pull anywhere near as much as tackles blocking speed rushers.
And as is pointed out, Kosier is already good at pulling.

 

[tunahelper]

On Talkin Cowboys, Mick said what he's heard from people that have "Played against him", Davis is better suited for RT because he doesn't have to pull as much at G as he's not as quick.


A mauling RG or a mauling RT? Looks like it's one or the other.

Lack the ability to pull, or lack the abilty to match up against RDEs?

Either way, he will probably have weaknesses, and who are we to say what the bigger weakness is? RG(pulling) or RT(Rushers)?

In the end, would we be better off with Davis at RT and Proctor at RG or Colombo at RT and Davis at RG? The reluctance to sign Colombo may be more about the Cowboys desire to play Davis at RT? We shall see.

Well he was 2nd alternate for the Pro Bowl at LT. You would think moving to RT he would face bigger DE's, since the best pass rusher is lined up at RE.
I really do not think he would have problems at RT, but can we find a guard?
I thought Colombo could not get a lot of movement in the run game last year. Especially on off tackle or sweeps to his side, maybe an alternative to him is the better option?

 

[superpunk]

Maybe we payed Davis tackle money, and we want to pay Colombo "Guard" money?

Hmmmmm?

OK, probably not, but maybe Colombo could play guard.

On second thought....nvm.

 

[burmafrd]

Actually, this year the guards are making out like bandits and its the tackles that are sucking hind tit.

 

[Redball Express]

RT may just be the best place......Wade will figure it out soon.

He's playing G in 2007 to buy time to draft a 1st Rd talent at G this year and then next year, Davis goes to LOT in place of Flo and the rookie drafted this year will plug in at G as a starter in 2008.

Columbo gets signed at ROT or somebody else in FA to play there and we also draft another ROT type to backup that position with one of our top draft picks. Dallas is going to try to speed up time with the OL like they did with the DL the last couple of years.

Watch.

Dallas is going to get younger quickly on this OL in this coming draft and they are going to not be risk-reward type choices with suspect track records.

In the meantime Davis is the pancrea for this season at G and the long-term answer at LOT.

You DO NOT pay that kind of money to a player who is a G. You pay it to a LOT who has to protect your franchise QB.

That comes next year.

Flo is not the fire-breathing player they need at LOT. And he's not a leader on the OL. He's history. Dallas paid him in his last contract to be that. He didn't do it.


ReDbaLL ExPreSS

 

[newlander]

and think the big guy is best suited to road grade and go straight forward. As someone said, it depends on Garrett's play selection. Obviously, it benefits everyone if the guy can pull, but that isn't his strong suit. So it's Sparano and Garrett's job to put him in a position to succeed: I think they will, because they are smart, experienced coaches. No offense, but I really think you guys are getting too hung up on where LD will play. The fact he can be a solid, serviceable LT, RT OR GUARD is rare in this league and is the reason he got all that money IMO.

 

[Ken]

Well he was 2nd alternate for the Pro Bowl at LT. You would think moving to RT he would face bigger DE's, since the best pass rusher is lined up at RE.
I really do not think he would have problems at RT, but can we find a guard?
I thought Colombo could not get a lot of movement in the run game last year. Especially on off tackle or sweeps to his side, maybe an alternative to him is the better option?

What year was he pro bowl alternate?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Davis ran a 5.2 40 at the combine. That isn't to bad especially considering his size! (370ish lbs) I'm not sure why they say he can't pull. While he isn't Nate Newton, he doesn't really have a problem pulling. I guess they just look at his size and spew out "The man can't pull". You don't have to be a track star to pull, you just have to be able to swing around the end without delaying the play. 5.2 speed isn't the slowest pulling speed in the NFL, it's just not the fastest either. The defense problem comes once he turns the cornor and buries whoever job it is to fill that hole.

 

[burmafrd]

Its not about 40 time. Its about being to move quickly, change directions, and hit someone in space. Someone that big- you gotta wonder.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Its not about 40 time. Its about being to move quickly, change directions, and hit someone in space. Someone that big- you gotta wonder.

Actually, 40 time is relevant when pulling as the most *time* is made during the acceleration from a dead stop. The main reason Davis was drafted #2 overall was because of his agility combined with his size and strength. Not on his size and strength alone, otherwise you would see a lot more 370lbs offensive lineman in the league.

 

[burmafrd]

Its not 40 time- its the 20 or 10 time that is more important.

 

[Champsheart]

Obviously Guard has been the choice of just about everybody. Originally I thought the same thing. After watching some past games of Dallas vs Arizona he may be suited better at RT.

Granted my sample I had to watch was small, but I came away thinking RT.