CFZ Whatever happened to the Wildcatter of the old days?

[BAT]

Coward Jerry and Sniveling Stephen just make me sick to my stomach.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think the contract by Brandon Carr was the last attempt at big impact free agency.
Their free agency approach has never been the same since then.
Jerry allows Stephen's cap management to determine all contracts that are not drafted by the Cowboys.

This philosophy is not a winning one.

What about Cooper?

And what we describe as winning may not align with their definition.

 

[Jake]

I stopped expecting this joke of an organization to deliver years ago.

I follow the team out of habit. It is what it is, the Jones family business.

 

[75boyz]

What about Cooper?

And what we describe as winning may not align with their definition.

Yep, Coop fits as the one outlier FA given big money since Carr.
Jerry took Coop's Covid stance and public mention of lacking targets personally and quickly distanced himself from the player even after investing draft picks and good money in the guy.

Maybe Coop was Stephen's proof to his daddy in order to show daddy something like: "See Daddy, remember the last time we tried to give somebody we didnt draft some of our good money? Remember Brandon Carr daddy?
I told you we should just stick to re-signing our own to the good money deals."
That's gonna be the last one okay daddy?

Something like that probably happened which doesn't seem entirely impossible with these two.

jmo

 

[plymkr]

Jerry Jones bragged for years that one of the advantages of him being both owner AND General Manager was he could save time not having a middle man. He could act quickly and decisively without getting bogged down by having someone else making decisions. He was aggressive.

In the early days of JJs ownership he took chances. Some worked some didn’t. But he was almost always aggressive to obtain players that could give us a chance to win. Certainly Jimmy Johnson in the early days deserves the lions share of credit for most of those early moves. But Jerry was agreeable when some owners wouldn’t have.

Not all of his aggressive moves worked. But many did- like the Herschel Walker trade, the Charles Haley acquisition, signing Deion Sanders as a free agent, the trade for Amari Cooper to name a few. But there were also the bad WR trades for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. There were several bad FA signings. The trade up to get Mo Claiborne.

But here’s my question- What happened to the wildcatter? When was the last time JJ and his FO took a big chance in a bold roster move? Apparently, Stephen Jones sees the salary cap as a wall while GMs like Les Snead of the rams, Jason Licht of the Bucs or Brett Veach of the chiefs- they all see the cap as a speed bump. They make aggressive moves. Stephen tells why we can’t.

SJ has turned Jerry from being a wildcatter oil man taking football chances to a billionaire tycoon who’s more interested in playing with his toy and counting his money than doing whatever it takes to win. We keep watching other teams make aggressive roster moves while Stephen reminds us of the cap.

What ever happened to the old wildcatter?

I wonder if Joey Galloway, Roy Williams (WR) and Mo Claiborne changed him.

He still gambles but to a far lesser degree. His gambling days are confined to the 2nd round where he looks for steals.

 

[Acceptablename]

Jerry Jones bragged for years that one of the advantages of him being both owner AND General Manager was he could save time not having a middle man. He could act quickly and decisively without getting bogged down by having someone else making decisions. He was aggressive.

In the early days of JJs ownership he took chances. Some worked some didn’t. But he was almost always aggressive to obtain players that could give us a chance to win. Certainly Jimmy Johnson in the early days deserves the lions share of credit for most of those early moves. But Jerry was agreeable when some owners wouldn’t have.

Not all of his aggressive moves worked. But many did- like the Herschel Walker trade, the Charles Haley acquisition, signing Deion Sanders as a free agent, the trade for Amari Cooper to name a few. But there were also the bad WR trades for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. There were several bad FA signings. The trade up to get Mo Claiborne.

But here’s my question- What happened to the wildcatter? When was the last time JJ and his FO took a big chance in a bold roster move? Apparently, Stephen Jones sees the salary cap as a wall while GMs like Les Snead of the rams, Jason mLicht of the Bucs or Brett Veach of the chiefs- they all see the cap as a speed bump. They make aggressive moves. Stephen tells why we can’t.

SJ has turned Jerry from being a wildcatter oil man taking football chances to a billionaire tycoon who’s more interested in playing with his toy and counting his money than doing whatever it takes to win. We keep watching other teams make aggressive roster moves while Stephen reminds us of the cap.

What ever happened to the old wildcatter?

I think you answered your own question and very well

 

[Bobhaze]

I wonder if Joey Galloway, Roy Williams (WR) and Mo Claiborne changed him.

He still gambles but to a far lesser degree. His gambling days are confined to the 2nd round where he looks for steals.

There’s a very good chance that did change him. I think Stephen Jones has had an even bigger effect on him.

 

[IslandCowboy]

The problem is that Jerry and Stephen don't know football and took risks over the past 10-15 years on crappy players i.e. Roy Williams etc. and they got burnt so now they have abandoned that method of improvement altogether.

 

[Vtwin]

Jerry is like the person who has been driving for a long time but doesn't have much experience in adverse conditions. One day they're driving down the snow covered road. All is good until they round that corner a bit to hot, the back end gets a bit squirrely and they panic, severely overcorrect and drive that car right into the ditch.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry Jones bragged for years that one of the advantages of him being both owner AND General Manager was he could save time not having a middle man. He could act quickly and decisively without getting bogged down by having someone else making decisions. He was aggressive.

In the early days of JJs ownership he took chances. Some worked some didn’t. But he was almost always aggressive to obtain players that could give us a chance to win. Certainly Jimmy Johnson in the early days deserves the lions share of credit for most of those early moves. But Jerry was agreeable when some owners wouldn’t have.

Not all of his aggressive moves worked. But many did- like the Herschel Walker trade, the Charles Haley acquisition, signing Deion Sanders as a free agent, the trade for Amari Cooper to name a few. But there were also the bad WR trades for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. There were several bad FA signings. The trade up to get Mo Claiborne.

But here’s my question- What happened to the wildcatter? When was the last time JJ and his FO took a big chance in a bold roster move? Apparently, Stephen Jones sees the salary cap as a wall while GMs like Les Snead of the rams, Jason Licht of the Bucs or Brett Veach of the chiefs- they all see the cap as a speed bump. They make aggressive moves. Stephen tells why we can’t.

SJ has turned Jerry from being a wildcatter oil man taking football chances to a billionaire tycoon who’s more interested in playing with his toy and counting his money than doing whatever it takes to win. We keep watching other teams make aggressive roster moves while Stephen reminds us of the cap.

What ever happened to the old wildcatter?

He failed miserably w/ pretty much every FA after Deion, and is now confused and has no idea what he did wrong. Go ask him why Brandon Carr was not a complete stud, I bet he still doesn't have a clue that Carr was a #2 type CB and simply didn't have the physical skills to dominate. Ask him why Cedric Thornton didn't work out at NT, and you'll prolly get some blather about heart and hustle or something and not one word about leverage and positional value.

 

[kskboys]

The problem is that Jerry and Stephen don't know football and took risks over the past 10-15 years on crappy players i.e. Roy Williams etc. and they got burnt so now they have abandoned that method of improvement altogether.

There's another. RW was a slant fiend. Impossible to cover on the slants due to his speed. Aaaaaaaannnnddd, Romo was terrible on the slants. Betcha Jerry still doesn't have the faintest idea why RW didn't work out here.

 

[baltcowboy]

Who is this mythical great player the Cowboys should go all in for? If we fail in the playoffs I would go get a quarterback but I am not sure if it would be through the draft or a trade.

 

[kskboys]

I think the contract by Brandon Carr was the last attempt at big impact free agency.
Their free agency approach has never been the same since then.
Jerry allows Stephen's cap management to determine all contracts that are not drafted by the Cowboys.

This philosophy is not a winning one.

They completely lack the ability to evaluate players.

 

[kskboys]

The salary cap entered in 1993. The only one prior to it was Charles Haley. The new stadium was over a decade later.

Deion Sanders, Joey Galloway, and Roy Williams were all well after it. More likely that the last two were colossal failures and old Jerry began to question himself.

Jerry has no idea why he failed at FA.

 

[Bobhaze]

He failed miserably w/ pretty much every FA after Deion, and is now confused and has no idea what he did wrong. Go ask him why Brandon Carr was not a complete stud, I bet he still doesn't have a clue that Carr was a #2 type CB and simply didn't have the physical skills to dominate. Ask him why Cedric Thornton didn't work out at NT, and you'll prolly get some blather about heart and hustle or something and not one word about leverage and positional value.

Imagine having an 80 yr old GM who keeps guys because he loves their “heart and loyalty” but cuts guys (or gets a poor trade for them) because they don’t kiss the Jones ring properly.

 

[kskboys]

Who is this mythical great player the Cowboys should go all in for? If we fail in the playoffs I would go get a quarterback but I am not sure if it would be through the draft or a trade.

Too late now.

We'd be a different team if we'd have signed DJ Reader, Trey Hendrickson, even Larry Ogunjobi would've made a huge difference.

 

[baltcowboy]

Too late now.

We'd be a different team if we'd have signed DJ Reader, Trey Hendrickson, even Larry Ogunjobi would've made a huge difference.

Those guys you can get in every free agency period. We don’t need Hendrickson we already have the best pass rush in the league. We need a difference maker.

 

[kskboys]

Those guys you can get in every free agency period. We don’t need Hendrickson we already have the best pass rush in the league. We need a difference maker.

Manalive, you don't know about Hendrickson? You think there's a Reader in every FA period? Dude..................you might need to read more or something.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Bob what happened to the division-winning and super bowl winning thread? lol.......

 

[baltcowboy]

Manalive, you don't know about Hendrickson? You think there's a Reader in every FA period? Dude..................you might need to read more or something.

Ok Bruh…. You offended because I question your philosophy? Reader is good I don’t see him stopping the off tackle run. Sam, Armstrong, and Fowler together are out performing Hendrickson. You need to understand money and resources better. Take an Economic class or something.