Whats considered a strong arm in the NFL??

[Jack-Reacher]

A lot of experts considered Joe Montana to have a weak arm. I would take his weak arm any day of the week. Romo reminds me of Montana quite a bit with the exception that Romo will throw the deep outs and the deep routes more than Montana was ever asked to. He seems to make good decisions and appears to have good instincts. If we can get a Montana like career out of T-Ro, then that will be something special indeed.

Jon

 

[Future]

Im 18 and have an above average arm for someone in High school by throwing the ball 55 yards accurately.

60 HAH i win

 

[the kid 05]

60 HAH i win

last time i did it it was 3239 yards...i win jk

 

[Munchis]

see Drew Bledsoe

Munchis.....Out!!

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I always heard the down and outs are the hardest NFL throws to make that require the strong arm....and I have seen ROMO make them....so I would say his arm is NFL strong ENOUGH

 

[rynochop]

I've always wondered why they don't use a radar gun just like on pitchers??

Seems like that would take a lot of the mystery out of who has a better arm. Put a Jugs out there and throw a 20 yard out.

 

[joseephuss]

A strong arm I would say is probably 80. This is why a "strong" arm is overrated. I am yet to see a play where a QB can wind up and throw the ball 80 yards. A good measure of arm strength IMO is how well they can throw on the run. I'd say a real strong arm QB can throw accurately about 30 yards on the run, where it is all arm.

Romo's arm will suffice IMO

They used to do those QB challenges. No one I watched got close to 80 yards. Randall Cunningham and Vinny Testaverde were both hitting 70 yards. Aikman got between 60 and 65.

I agree that the deep outs are the best measure of arm strength. Watching how a QB throws that pattern will give a great indication as to how strong their arm and how well their timing and accuracy is as well.

Kordell Stewart threw a 70 yard pass in college to win a game against Michigan. I watched him throw deep outs and the ball would just seem to float out to the sidelines. It rarely had zip on the ball.

A strong arm is nice, but it is one of the least needed tools of a QB. Smarts is the most needed. Accuracy, good technique, good footwork and a compact release can all be better than a strong arm.

 

[Doomsday101]

i keep hearing that oh romo has an average arm...but how long would he have to throw it to be considered a strong arm...

i kno i can throw a ball 30-35 yards deep(i kno im weak) im guessing romo has twice my arm strength and that would be about...hmmm im guessing he can throw 50-55 yards??

so im guessing a strong arm is considered 65 yards n beyond?..

i dont kno...the passes he threw vs washington(the deep 1's) seemed pretty deep.....or maybe there talking about ZIP wise?

wat u guys think?

I never look at how far they throw the long bomb I look at how quick the ball gets there on the deep out rout. On a bomb you put a lot of air under the ball on the deep out it is more on a line throw and guys who do not have strong arms tend to have a hard time on that throw.

 

[joseephuss]

I never look at how far they throw the long bomb I look at how quick the ball gets there on the deep out rout. On a bomb you put a lot of air under the ball on the deep out it is more on a line throw and guys who do not have strong arms tend to have a hard time on that throw.

A lot of guys that don't set their feet and use good technique struggle on the out. Quincy Carter was very inconsistent when he threw out patterns. He had an above average arm, but often had very poor technique.

 

[Doomsday101]

A lot of guys that don't set their feet and use good technique struggle on the out. Quincy Carter was very inconsistent when he threw out patterns. He had an above average arm, but often had very poor technique.

True. It is a hard throw where you need to set your feet. On a 20 yard out that is really about a 40 yard throw on a line and guys have to put some zip on that throw and that is hard to do when your not using good technique. Outs are a bit dangerouse because if the rout is jumped there is not much in between the defender and the goal line. One guy I can remember who had a good arm on deep balls but really struggled on the deep outs was Jim Harbaugh of the Bears.

 

[joseephuss]

True. It is a hard throw where you need to set your feet. On a 20 yard out that is really about a 40 yard throw on a line and guys have to put some zip on that throw and that is hard to do when your not using good technique. Outs are a bit dangerouse because if the rout is jumped there is not much in between the defender and the goal line. One guy I can remember who had a good arm on deep balls but really struggled on the deep outs was Jim Harbaugh of the Bears.

And Aikman was the oppostie. He was really good at the deep outs and not as good on the deep ball. Really two very different kinds of throws.

 

[Doomsday101]

And Aikman was the oppostie. He was really good at the deep outs and not as good on the deep ball. Really two very different kinds of throws.

That is very true.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Kyle Boller has one of the strongest arms in the NFL.

That fact alone should tell you a little something about "Arm Strength".

- Mike G.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Kyle Boller has one of the strongest arms in the NFL.

That fact alone should tell you a little something about "Arm Strength".

- Mike G.

Arm strength has its place in the NFL and any coach who denies this is probably drunk...or just real stupid.

Great arms can allow for QB's to make up for mistakes in decision making and also allows the offensive to be more creative if they choose to. That and a plethora of other reasons is why the NFL loves QB's with big arms.

Unfortunately, awful decision making and being awful at other factors will make for an awful QB no matter how strong their arm is.



YAKUZA

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Arm strength has its place in the NFL and any coach who denies this is probably drunk...or just real stupid.

Great arms can allow for QB's to make up for mistakes in decision making and also allows the offensive to be more creative if they choose to. That and a plethora of other reasons is why the NFL loves QB's with big arms.

Unfortunately, awful decision making and being awful at other factors will make for an awful QB no matter how strong their arm is.



YAKUZA

I understand that but too many times people talk about it like it is the "be all end all".

Sure, a strong arm forces the defenses to protect every part of the field, which was "one" of the many reasons Marvin Lewis was itching to get Palmer on the field after Kitna had had a solid year.

But there are a whole host of other factors that need to be taken into consideration.

I just get tired of threads popping up about Romo's arm strength, when clearly he has the "Physical Tools" to play at the NFL level.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Sure, a strong arm forces the defenses to protect every part of the field, which was "one" of the many reasons Marvin Lewis was itching to get Palmer on the field after Kitna had had a solid year.

The main reason was Kitna's decision making was/is pretty bad. Lewis probably figured that Kitna's luck in 2003 would run out and he was better off going with a guy that may not make any better decisions, but has a much better arm.


YAKUZA

 

[Stautner]

Arm strength is merely one of many factors that make a quality QB, and like most factors, it isn't a killer if a QB doesn't rank at the top of the field in that area.

Of course, there is a minimum level of arm strength that any NFL QB has to have, and Romo has no problem meeting that level. Above that, things like leadership, field awareness, reading defenses, making quick decisions, throwing accuracy etc ..... are the real keys, and so far those seem to be strengths of Romos.

It would be nice to have an Elway arm, but guys like Montana, Tarekenton, Phil Simms, Stabler and others did quite well without having cannon arms. Besides, often the QB's with the very strong arms tend to rely on that too much and sacrifice some accuracy. Elway, Moon and some others with that kind of arm strength have lower completion percentages than some of their peers.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

The main reason was Kitna's decision making was/is pretty bad. Lewis probably figured that Kitna's luck in 2003 would run out and he was better off going with a guy that may not make any better decisions, but has a much better arm.


YAKUZA

Marvin Lewis was taking some criticism when making the move and on one of his interviews on ESPN along with Jaws, he talked about how now the defense was going to have to protect the "entire field" since Palmer has a stronger arm and overall better physical tools.

Im sure a million other factors were involved but that's straight from the coaches mouth.

As far as Kitna, sure was a journey man and "poor man's" Brett Favre (which Holmgren thought he could be similar to Brett), he had an extremely good year and I believe got Comeback or Most Improved Player of the year honors.

As far as "that" year was concerned he played fine and they ultimately decided not too, the Bengals really wanted to keep the guy around as a backup in case of an injury to Palmer.

Again, this isnt a debate over Kitna/Palmer.

- Mike G.