What's the deal with Fabini?

baj1dallas said:
I'd say the deal is that you're either overreacting or totally clueless.
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Absolutely. More knee-jerking about the offense. Great. He couldnt have done this in his other rediculous post.
 
cowboys41fe said:
Wasn't he one of the first signings this offseason? Going into the offseason the OL was the biggest concern... Maybe I'm wrong that the OL was our biggest problem...
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You aren't quite as wrong as some on here would have you believe.

Fabini wasn't supposed to be a savior, and was not the Jets best O-lineman, but he was supposed to at least be a solid and stabalizing addition to the O-line, which we sorely needed.

It seems that I recall he still had some problem with his injury from last year, but the bottom line is that Colombo outplayed him in preseason and training camp.

The fact that we now have 2 players that Parcells sees as better than Petiti is encouraging enough for me.

As for the play of the O-line so far this year, Colombo wasn't outstanding butheld his own against a very good Jacksonville defense in the first game - particularly pass blocking - and the entire O-line played well in both the running and passing games against Washington.
 
cowboys41fe said:
Denver is averaging a 153 yards a game with the likes of a no name in Bell...
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That's more biscuit for pre-med mosquitos.
 
"Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games "

Anyone who can start 114 straight games must be one of the better players... That's 7 years straight man...

"The Jets endured another embarrassing loss
Sunday to the Carolina Panthers and lost right tackle Jason Fabini
for the year, making a tough season even more difficult. "

Why would it be a embarrassing loss if he wasn't a good player?

"On another day, this signing might have been more heralded. On this day, Fabini had to wait to be introduced to Jerry Jones until the owner had finished speaking with reporters about Owens."

I guess they just say things to be saying them... lol
 
He's old and washed up. I've been saying this ever since we were thinking about picking him up.
 
cowboys41fe said:
"Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games "

Anyone who can start 114 straight games must be one of the better players... That's 7 years straight man...
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Ever hear of players declining in their abilities?? Larry Allen started a lot of games for the Cowboys, more than any of our OL from last season. Does that mean he was our best?? It's fairly clear Flo was our best OL last season before his injury. Last year there were some who said LA was our worst OL. There are fans in NYJ who would argue that Fabini was awful... I believe he led the team in false starts last year.

"The Jets endured another embarrassing loss
Sunday to the Carolina Panthers and lost right tackle Jason Fabini
for the year, making a tough season even more difficult. "

Why would it be a embarrassing loss if he wasn't a good player?
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That's not exactly what they said, they said the loss to Carolina was embarrassing. The loss of Fabini made the season more difficult, but any loss of OL makes the season tougher. Still doesn't mean he was their best OL.

"On another day, this signing might have been more heralded. On this day, Fabini had to wait to be introduced to Jerry Jones until the owner had finished speaking with reporters about Owens."

I guess they just say things to be saying them... lol
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So the fact that Fabini's introduction to the media after his signing was DELAYED because of TO questions means that Fabini was one of our biggest acquisition?? I don't get it...

Take a breath, slow down, and actually read what you're quoting before you post things trying to prove your points.
 
cowboys41fe said:
"Fabini spent his entire eight-year career with the Jets, starting 114 straight games "

Anyone who can start 114 straight games must be one of the better players... That's 7 years straight man...

"The Jets endured another embarrassing loss
Sunday to the Carolina Panthers and lost right tackle Jason Fabini
for the year, making a tough season even more difficult. "

Why would it be a embarrassing loss if he wasn't a good player?

"On another day, this signing might have been more heralded. On this day, Fabini had to wait to be introduced to Jerry Jones until the owner had finished speaking with reporters about Owens."

I guess they just say things to be saying them... lol
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Dude, please buy a clue.

Fabini was [past tense] a good OL for the Jets. Then he had a couple of injuries and was released. The Jets did not want him back, for anything less than backup $$$.

The sentence reads:

"The Jets endured another embarrassing loss
Sunday to the Carolina Panthers and lost right tackle Jason Fabini
for the year, making a tough season even more difficult. "

The "and" indicates a seperate independent clause. Embarrasing is referring to the loss to Carolina, not to Fabini.

The "more heralded" statement is refering to the utter lack of notice or caring by the press of Fabini's signing, due to the previous signing of TO. It is not refering to Fabini as heralded, just that it lacks the importance of TO's signing.

Is English your second language, or are you badly reaching in trying to make a point? :confused:
 
Fabini is doing exactly what her was signed to do. He is the swing tackle on game days who has started at both tackle positions in this league. The Cowboys had no legitment back up at tackle last season when Flo went down. Fabini provides that in the short term.
 
Isn't it great to have guys like Fabini and McQ on the team in case someone (god forbid) goes down?
 
T-Bone 625 said:
Fabini is doing exactly what her was signed to do. He is the swing tackle on game days who has started at both tackle positions in this league. The Cowboys had no legitment back up at tackle last season when Flo went down. Fabini provides that in the short term.
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No no no, don't you see, 1) he's a free agent 2) he's a "Parcells guy" so that means he's either a superstar probowler, or absolute garbage. Gosh what's wrong with you guys, what do you want a bunch of average players on your team?
 
We signed Fabini to a 3 year deal.

He is a good linemen. Not a pro bowler. The best linemen on the jets was probably pro bowl center Kevin Mawae. Who we could have signed, but instead resigned Andre Gurode. Obviously Parcells likes him, and has seen something in him.

Fabini doesn't have much upside for the future, and Colombo is probably not only better, but a player we can use for the future. So obviously he is going to get the start. Both players were better than Pettiti.

I would say Gurode and Colombo are going to be fixtures on the line for a pretty long time. Probably Kosier too.

And at the same time obviously Dallas likes SOMETHING they have in Rivera. Parcells said that he was a lock to start, where as Kosier was the one who might have had something to worry about from Proctor.

I think we'll draft a guard in the 2nd or 3rd next year to replace Rivera, but we'll also see what we have in Proctor. And depending on how well Colombo and Adams do this year we may or may not have to draft a tackle in the first or second.

If Adams does what we want him to, and Colombo continues to improve, we probably won't draft a tackle. We'll develop McQuistan, and keep Fabini for the time we have him. Perhaps Flo will even get another extension.

Replacing Rivera though seems to be where the priority is.

Then in terms of improving the team its really about getting a stud tackle to form that devastating front 3. J'vonne Parker probably isn't it.

Then from there I would say getting our Antonio Bryant back would be the next step in the draft. If we still had him we'd be set at receiver, but we don't so we're going to have to draft some players there.
 
come here more mr. 50 posts then try and make a point like this you are super out of the loop........so heres a recap of what you missed


Columbo is a first round talent
Fabini is OLD, and often hurt
Kosier has been playing well
Our running game is pretty good acctually
 
J.Jones21 said:
come here more mr. 50 posts then try and make a point like this you are super out of the loop........so heres a recap of what you missed


Columbo is a first round talent
Fabini is OLD, and often hurt
Kosier has been playing well
Our running game is pretty good acctually
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I'm assuming since I had 50 posts that you were refering to me. I've read this board every day for years. It's the first place I go to when I get home from work (off season/ regular season it doesn't matter). I am a die hard Cowboy fan and have been since the 70's. I don't post very often because the point I wanted to make is usually already posted by someone else on this board.

That being said, I don't understand your point. I said I thought Fabini would make a good gameday swing tackle (not a starting tackle) because of his experience. I agree that Columbo should be starting since he won the job and was drafted in the 1st round a few years back. The reason Dallas was able to get this 1st round talent last year was because he had a history of severe knee injuries. Maybe if you read the board more often you would know that.

You said Fabini was old (correct) and often hurt (incorrect). A quick check at NFL.com shows he started 16 games in 1998, 9 games in 1999, and 16 games each season from 2000 through 2004. He started 9 games in 2005 because of injury. He has been recently injured, but I would not call that often injured. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be in the loop because I remember this being discussed when he was signed.

You also stated that Kosier has been playing well. I agree. He is a guard however and I don't know how that relates to a discussion about a back up tackle. Guards and tackles are different positions. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be more in the loop.

How many post do you have to make before you can make a post and not be attacked for not making enough post? Weren't you at 50 posts at some point?
 
I remember when he was signed the idea was for him to be our swing tackle.
So in my opinion he is there as good insurance.
 
T-Bone 625 said:
I'm assuming since I had 50 posts that you were refering to me. I've read this board every day for years. It's the first place I go to when I get home from work (off season/ regular season it doesn't matter). I am a die hard Cowboy fan and have been since the 70's. I don't post very often because the point I wanted to make is usually already posted by someone else on this board.

That being said, I don't understand your point. I said I thought Fabini would make a good gameday swing tackle (not a starting tackle) because of his experience. I agree that Columbo should be starting since he won the job and was drafted in the 1st round a few years back. The reason Dallas was able to get this 1st round talent last year was because he had a history of severe knee injuries. Maybe if you read the board more often you would know that.

You said Fabini was old (correct) and often hurt (incorrect). A quick check at NFL.com shows he started 16 games in 1998, 9 games in 1999, and 16 games each season from 2000 through 2004. He started 9 games in 2005 because of injury. He has been recently injured, but I would not call that often injured. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be in the loop because I remember this being discussed when he was signed.

You also stated that Kosier has been playing well. I agree. He is a guard however and I don't know how that relates to a discussion about a back up tackle. Guards and tackles are different positions. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be more in the loop.

How many post do you have to make before you can make a post and not be attacked for not making enough post? Weren't you at 50 posts at some point?
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OH THATS ALL GOOD BUT I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU

sorry

It was toward the guy who started the thread
 
T-Bone 625 said:
I'm assuming since I had 50 posts that you were refering to me. I've read this board every day for years. It's the first place I go to when I get home from work (off season/ regular season it doesn't matter). I am a die hard Cowboy fan and have been since the 70's. I don't post very often because the point I wanted to make is usually already posted by someone else on this board.

That being said, I don't understand your point. I said I thought Fabini would make a good gameday swing tackle (not a starting tackle) because of his experience. I agree that Columbo should be starting since he won the job and was drafted in the 1st round a few years back. The reason Dallas was able to get this 1st round talent last year was because he had a history of severe knee injuries. Maybe if you read the board more often you would know that.

You said Fabini was old (correct) and often hurt (incorrect). A quick check at NFL.com shows he started 16 games in 1998, 9 games in 1999, and 16 games each season from 2000 through 2004. He started 9 games in 2005 because of injury. He has been recently injured, but I would not call that often injured. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be in the loop because I remember this being discussed when he was signed.

You also stated that Kosier has been playing well. I agree. He is a guard however and I don't know how that relates to a discussion about a back up tackle. Guards and tackles are different positions. Maybe if you read the board more often you would be more in the loop.

How many post do you have to make before you can make a post and not be attacked for not making enough post? Weren't you at 50 posts at some point?
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You have 51 posts anyways! :D
 
cowboys41fe said:
Wasn't this guy suppose to be one of our biggest off season aquisitions this offseason. How is it that he get's beat out by Colombo... I thought this guy was the Jet's best OL...

After 2 games, the running game doesn't look that great... And I'm wondering why not give the guy more time not to mention start... Is the problem not with Colombo and more to do with Kosier? Flo getting older? Rivera being a bust of a free agent the year prior? Whatever the reason the Cowboys need to get some youth working on the OL because these guys don't have much time left in the tank...
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:lmao: First it was Spears now it's Fabini. Who's next?
 
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