What's the earliest out of Dak's deal?

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i get that it is so much easier to blame one person, than type 6 sentences blaming a multitude of factors. But if you are really on here blaming Prescott even 50% then you are borderline idiotic. do any of you realize that our defense is giving up 28.13 points a game this year? Mahomes hasnt had to score 25 to win any game he's played in 2 years!!!!! We can't run the ball, we cant stop the run, our passing defense is not much better. We have one weapon on offense, no running backs worth bragging about, we dont have an all pro tight end, Dak is running for his life if we played the best high school team in the country. And all the incredibly either dumb or lazy finger pointing to one guy????

i don't care if you cloned Brady, Manning, Elway, and Marino with a great scrambler. This team is not built to win. That is 100% on Jerry, we've had the exact same issues on defense for a decade.
 
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i get that it is so much easier to blame one person, than type 6 sentences blaming a multitude of factors. But if you are really on here blaming Prescott even 50% then you are borderline idiotic. do any of you realize that our defense is giving up 28.13 points a game this year? Mahomes hasnt had to score 25 to win any game he's played in 2 years!!!!! We can't run the ball, we cant stop the run, our passing defense is not much better. We have one weapon on offense, no running backs worth bragging about, we dont have an all pro tight end, Dak is running for his life if we played the best high school team in the country. And all the incredibly either dumb or lazy finger pointing to one guy????

i don't care if you cloned Brady, Manning, Elway, and Marino with a great scrambler. This team is not built to win. That is 100% on Jerry, we've had the exact same issues on defense for a decade.

We are next to last in rushing defense, next to last in scoring defense, dead last in red zone defense, and dead last in rushing yards a game. How in the world do you blame a qb off a 2nd place mvp season for any of that??
 

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The one in 2020? Statistically he had had his two best seasons since then. The problem is right now he is showing how bad he needs a top supporting cast
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We've had the extreme luck of playing some of the wimpiest schedules in the history of the NFL. That is over this year, and Dak will lose every meaningful game, like the past 3,4, or 5 years.
 

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When, and what is the earliest way out of the Dak deal? Not asking for your opinion. Facts only. Has anyone studied the contract.
I thought it was after 26....with the money in last year not gauranteed which lowers the average. would still be a huge cap hit. but it is what it is.
 

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TOP? :facepalm: :muttley: :rolleyes:

Choose your words better man come on be truthful we're looking for average to above average would be nice I mean if you call what's happening on the offensive line to play calling the scheming the separation rates I mean would it be nice if we had guys running wide open for three easy touchdowns? That when they need to play they know exactly who to pick on and where to go because right now that's what our defense is no matter what an offense is gonna find a way to beat us no matter how well our offense plays you're asking for perfection is what you're asking for you're saying he needs top talent and no he needs talent to perform at least do their jobs to the best of their abilities and right now that's not even happening from guys like Martin... 2/3 of our offensive line is just no.... play somebody's making a big mistake..

I think it's funny everyone thinks we need to load up our team with elite talent to make our quarterback function better but when other teams do it you just call it business as usual I mean literally they're going out and improving their team and in the offseason they get better free agents than us isn't that the old narrative around here that Jerry Jones doesn't do enough to improve he does just enough then he expects all the players and the coaches to elevate their games it's trying to win with your superstars only but all the other role players and the players that we need in supporting roles are bargain basement or rookies but now we're back to blaming Prescott saying he needs more than the average quarterback and that's absolute***** that opinion is garbage and I'm sick of hearing it the man just needs what he has on his team to perform better period that's it that's the end of the story there is no other conspiracies or fake narratives these guys are not even doing their jobs well Martin Steele guyton the other wide receivers sure occasionally they're open sure Prescott might miss a guy open because his head's down looking for his first option we don't know where that is supposed to happen but then by the time he looks back up he's being crossed from both sides...
Hi Tad !! :laugh:
 

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Right, because that works out you should wait two to three years before you find out your quarterback's a bus that you just drafted?!! That's not how it works you cannot do that you need to draft the quarterback the year you need him and you need to go ahead and put him on the field they don't always workout like Green Bay don't start throwing nonsense out how guys sit for three years and it always works out it almost never works out look at all these giant busts especially at quarterback but pretty much all over can't just get a guy and hope two or three years from now he's good and then find out he's not that's the worst wasted pick than the trailer you can't do it when you're ready you go get the quarterback... Now maybe you go do one in the fourth round just like we got lucky with Prescott I mean you guys are throwing out stuff that we know doesn't work how many decades has Cleveland been looking for a quarterback has Denver been looking for a quarterback lots of other places I could sight but these places like the Browns and the Broncos and The Jets have gone out and overpaid for cornerbacks like that because they couldn't find one in the draft and you want the cowboys to find one....ho he is for a couple of years i mean?

Are you all smoking some of that hardcore stuff because y'all can't be serious I mean I don't get it I literally you think that it works out no it hardly ever works out teams have been trying some of them for five to 15 years when's the last time the bears had a good quarterback? I mean literally it almost never works out especially at quarterback you cannot draft on and wait a couple years to find out not when you just paid your quarterback guaranteed money for the next three years we have Prescott for the next three years the best thing we can do is build the best team around him and stop worrying about when he's gone what about right now we need to build a better team and yes there's money don't say that Jerry brainwashed you into thinking that these contracts he signed is keeping him from getting other guys we already know that's not true look around the league...

And this is to everyone you're not eating just the money Russell Wilson ate this would be an epic quick fail at signing a guy and then cutting him after one year that you already paid him $130 million up front I mean you already paid to me at 130 million he is not our problem he literally is not our problem the problems are resting the team this is a Jerry Jones in a front office problem that they decided to not help the the quarterback this year and they rolled with what they had last year and hope that the rookies were gonna workout wasn't that the historically bad off narrative now we're sweeping that under the rug and blaming the quarterback I'm so sick of it I mean literally be real this is not Prescott's issue that we're failing this year he is being failed by his front office and by the execution of the players around him that's a fact that is not a guess this man is being asked to do more than any other quarterback in the league that was handed money and it's on a team that was a playoff team but giving nothing to support it...
So you're saying you can't draft a rookie, sit him for a couple years and then start him? You say it doesn't always work out like Green Bay, but they have been one of the only teams that have sat a QB for awhile and had great results. Mahomes really only played in the final game his rookie season. Most teams that draft a QB high end up starting him because they don't really have a choice. They are drafting high usually because they have a poor QB. With Dak, we are likely going to be picking in the middle-end of the 1st round. By that point all the good QB's are gone. We are in a spot where we have our QB on a shorter term contract and will have a high pick. It's the perfect time to take a QB. Dak is not the guy who is going to win a Super Bowl. Ever. He doesn't have it. You can put talent all around him but he can't read a defense, he can't beat elite teams. He has failed every time he has been given the opportunity. We all know that Deer in Headlights look he gets. I'm tired of seeing it and you should be too.
 

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So you're saying you can't draft a rookie, sit him for a couple years and then start him? You say it doesn't always work out like Green Bay, but they have been one of the only teams that have sat a QB for awhile and had great results. Mahomes really only played in the final game his rookie season. Most teams that draft a QB high end up starting him because they don't really have a choice. They are drafting high usually because they have a poor QB. With Dak, we are likely going to be picking in the middle-end of the 1st round. By that point all the good QB's are gone. We are in a spot where we have our QB on a shorter term contract and will have a high pick. It's the perfect time to take a QB. Dak is not the guy who is going to win a Super Bowl. Ever. He doesn't have it. You can put talent all around him but he can't read a defense, he can't beat elite teams. He has failed every time he has been given the opportunity. We all know that Deer in Headlights look he gets. I'm tired of seeing it and you should be too.
You can do whatever you want a team can choose to do whatever they want what I'm telling you it would be a waste drafting a high traffic sitting him on the bench and finding out he was a waste of a draft pick you literally don't know know what you got even if you draft a guy high and start him tomorrow but the worst thing would happen is you waste a draft pick that can help your team this year for something three years down the road to find out he's a total bust because most of the quarterbacks taken are not who they were supposed to be on draft day most like 75% of them you're taking a risk wasting a high draft pick I didn't say you couldn't get one in the fourth or fifth round..

Nope as of last year that meme that was running around from 2016 to 2023 95 quarterbacks were drafted and only one of them has won a Super Bowl and that would be Patrick mahomes but he did play his rookie year and he has a ridiculous coaching staff and the man is elite but most of the quarterbacks are failures most of them I don't know what you're trying to sell me but I know what I've been watching and I said everything I said above and I'm not saying it again..

Picking a quarterback in the first round would be a giant monumental mistake if he's not playing the year he's drafted or is sometime coming in the year he's drafted the great ones teams are not afraid to start them their rookie years that's what I'm talking about when you're ready for one you want and you put him on the field.. Because there's too many examples like Anthony Richardson types more so 75% of them are failures in the NFL you cannot waste a high draft pick on a quarterback when you know you have a starter for the next three years....

You already have your quarterback you pick what you need in the first round to make your team better that year... Yes that's what I'm saying I'm sorry but I am telling you what I have seen over the last decade or more that teams looking for starters can't find them literally ready for a starter in the draft and spent decades looking for one it's rarely a hit the guys like CJ Stroud or Daniels they don't come around most guys who are picked in the first round that have these credentials they end up being bussed and if you don't get it I'm sorry I'm telling you it would be a mistake for this team in this position when we know we need to fix a lot of holes to pick any prime skill position or trenches in the first round would be a better bet sorry I'm not ready to be tanking and waiting for Prescott to walk out and when you're gonna cut him so yes it'll be a monumental mistake to even suggest it but you're allowed to suggest it so I'm moving on they're not gonna do it for that exact reason..

When the Cowboys are ready to move on from Prescott they will draft a quarterback or they gonna be like all the other teams getting mid level guys and hope to reconstruct somebody's career like Geno Smith Sam darnold or Baker Mayfield you know why because they can't get one in the DANG draft. Do you get that I mean teams are going after guys like deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers end Wilson and paying them extreme money these are Prescott guys these are like that we already have one we're gonna keep him and try to make it work with him...

I mean these are examples of teams that have spent decades looking for one in the draft and can't find one and you wanna get one that might workout three years from now and then find out when he does it you just wasted a chance at a premier pass rusher I premiere defensive tackle a premier wide receiver that's what you take in the 1st right now because right now we have a quarterback making $60 million a year and we need the best draft picks we can get because we know what our front office is and if you don't get it I'm not buying it so I'm trying to sell me I'm saying you're 100% wrong in this situation we need to fill holes with premier players in the first 3 rounds,,
 

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But they also have a competent FO and a good creative coach.
And you're saying that now but just because they started out five and four doesn't mean the Broncos are gonna do anything that's a mistake and a risk they were willing to take but the Cowboys are not in that position and anybody thinking we should do that with Prescott or just lost and clueless yes we need our superstars here because our front office relies on superstar talent and are not gonna be able to build and restart from burning it down and starting over so everybody stop talking about getting rid of Prescott and let's use our premier picks for premier players we got a hit in the first 3 rounds on three positions on this team that are big holes I don't care where it's at we need it wide receiver something in the trenches running back and pass rusher we need all that we can't waste a draft pick picking a quarterback it's starting over and hope he works out and by the way BO hasn't done squat this year yet..

You want to know what quarterbacks look good they're rookie years you know what it looks like when they win rookie of the year that would be 1 Prescott thirteen wins as a rookie that's impressive the stuff they're doing in Denver regardless of how they were willing to take the risk hasn't paid off yet because they're one game over 500 has paid off how about going on a 11 game win streak as a rookie and playing very well your first playoff game and being picked in the fourth round that's impressive CJ stroud last year was impressive , what Bo has done so far Denver right now is not impressive. Good for them..clap clap

It is so rare to hit on a quarterback in the draft had only 95 quarterbacks taken since 2016 has one of them winning a Super Bowl and most of the rest are mid or below average or bus there are very few that were even serviceable..

So we simply need to take our draft picks knowing what we know about our front office and get the best ones available right now we need to do this because it may not look like the windows open but why you still have your superstars that our front office is unwilling to tyrade them, right now build around them and not worry about whose our quarterback 3 years from now .
 

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You can do whatever you want a team can choose to do whatever they want what I'm telling you it would be a waste drafting a high traffic sitting him on the bench and finding out he was a waste of a draft pick you literally don't know know what you got even if you draft a guy high and start him tomorrow but the worst thing would happen is you waste a draft pick that can help your team this year for something three years down the road to find out he's a total bust because most of the quarterbacks taken are not who they were supposed to be on draft day most like 75% of them you're taking a risk wasting a high draft pick I didn't say you couldn't get one in the fourth or fifth round..

Nope as of last year that meme that was running around from 2016 to 2023 95 quarterbacks were drafted and only one of them has won a Super Bowl and that would be Patrick mahomes but he did play his rookie year and he has a ridiculous coaching staff and the man is elite but most of the quarterbacks are failures most of them I don't know what you're trying to sell me but I know what I've been watching and I said everything I said above and I'm not saying it again..

Picking a quarterback in the first round would be a giant monumental mistake if he's not playing the year he's drafted or is sometime coming in the year he's drafted the great ones teams are not afraid to start them their rookie years that's what I'm talking about when you're ready for one you want and you put him on the field.. Because there's too many examples like Anthony Richardson types more so 75% of them are failures in the NFL you cannot waste a high draft pick on a quarterback when you know you have a starter for the next three years....

You already have your quarterback you pick what you need in the first round to make your team better that year... Yes that's what I'm saying I'm sorry but I am telling you what I have seen over the last decade or more that teams looking for starters can't find them literally ready for a starter in the draft and spent decades looking for one it's rarely a hit the guys like CJ Stroud or Daniels they don't come around most guys who are picked in the first round that have these credentials they end up being bussed and if you don't get it I'm sorry I'm telling you it would be a mistake for this team in this position when we know we need to fix a lot of holes to pick any prime skill position or trenches in the first round would be a better bet sorry I'm not ready to be tanking and waiting for Prescott to walk out and when you're gonna cut him so yes it'll be a monumental mistake to even suggest it but you're allowed to suggest it so I'm moving on they're not gonna do it for that exact reason..

When the Cowboys are ready to move on from Prescott they will draft a quarterback or they gonna be like all the other teams getting mid level guys and hope to reconstruct somebody's career like Geno Smith Sam darnold or Baker Mayfield you know why because they can't get one in the DANG draft. Do you get that I mean teams are going after guys like deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers end Wilson and paying them extreme money these are Prescott guys these are like that we already have one we're gonna keep him and try to make it work with him...


I mean these are examples of teams that have spent decades looking for one in the draft and can't find one and you wanna get one that might workout three years from now and then find out when he does it you just wasted a chance at a premier pass rusher I premiere defensive tackle a premier wide receiver that's what you take in the 1st right now because right now we have a quarterback making $60 million a year and we need the best draft picks we can get because we know what our front office is and if you don't get it I'm not buying it so I'm trying to sell me I'm saying you're 100% wrong in this situation we need to fill holes with premier players in the first 3 rounds,,
What I'm saying is you can put whoever you want on this team with that pick and as long as Prescott is helming this team we are going to be exiting early in the playoffs if he can even get us back there. And you make it sound like only QB's are risky to take in the 1st. The entire draft is a crap shoot. How is Mazi doing? How is Guyton doing? Why wait until Prescott is gone to try and get a QB? So you can likely suck for a year and THEN end up drafting one high? Do you want to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to guys like Watson or Rodgers? What are those teams records? Outside of McCarthy (and only because he's injured) I would rather have any of the 6 QB's taken in the first this year starting for this team.
 

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Folks, let see how bad this season turns out and then figure out the best path forward. Hell, if we have a top 5 pick and there is a great QB available take him and let him sit and watch and learn. If Dak craps the bed because he can't handle the pressure of having a number 1 QB pick on the bench then cut him loose and let him count his money. If Dak plays lights out then you let him play out his contract and then start the QB who has been soaking up experience for a few years. PS. A lot depends on who the coach is, because it won't be Mike. He will be lucky if he makes it through the season unless a miracle happens.
 

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2026 as a post June 1st cut. There would still be 60 million in guarantees left, but spread over 3 years they save over 40 million a season. So it's not impossible, but the Cowboys should use 2025 to draft and develop a qb if they're serious about it.
2026 looks to me best option. You will still owe him for 2027 season since it guarantees a year ahead
 

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I like your idea of forming an exclusive chat where there's no QB bashing. It becomes so old and tired. It's pointless. It goes on and on..........
Jerry just signed the QB to a brand new contract two months ago, and some folks REALLY think that Jerry would actually cut him.........
Ain't happening.
Agreed with your post.
As long as it has a post word limit.
 

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Sad but funny that just a few weeks after the contract is signed, we're already trying to figure out how to get out of it!
 
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