What's The Solution? (Long)

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I've been a pretty strong Garrett defender during his time with the Cowboys. I was friends with John Garrett when we both lived in Cincinnati. I'm sentimental over having a former Cowboy from a tremendous era being the coach of my team. I wanted to believe that all he needed was time, and his types of players.

But lately I find myself migrating over to the other side. After last night, I think I've crossed over. I know there are a ton of injuries. I know he's hamstrung (maybe not the best choice of words) by his owner/GM. I like how he seems to get guys to buy into his system and play hard.

However, I'm tired of seeing him be (at least in my very amateur opinion) grossly outcoached. Whatever we're doing, it's not working. Yes, we're in first place in our division. So what? It's a lousy division. I know all the games we've lost this year are to teams with winning records (except SD, and they're not a bad team). So what? We need to beat some of those teams, instead of either coming just short, getting solidly beat, or getting flat blown out.

I'm not one that supports change just for the sake of change. I'm also not one to keep doing what isn't working. The question is, what's the right change? What's the solution? You can say "fire Garrett, Kiffin, etc." Okay, fine. Then what? Get Gruden. Get Holmgren. Get David Shaw. Get Kevin Sumlin. Get Cowher. Get Tomlin. The list goes on and on. But will any of those guys really improve things? TB fans couldn't wait to get rid of Gruden, thinking that he only won with Dungy's players, couldn't figure out his QB situation, and eventually lost the team. Holmgren is old, and will want a level of control (and money) that I can't see Jerry giving him. Sure, he's said that he might be interested in coaching Dallas (at least, I think he said it), but throwing out the word "Dallas" seems to be the ultimate negotiating ploy right now. Same with Cowher. And I'm not sure just how much those guys really want to coach again. Shaw? Sumlin? Great college coaches. Will that translate to the pros? It has with Carroll, Harbaugh, and Jimmy, but the list of failures is much longer. Tomlin? What has he done/would he do without Lebeau and Arians? Even with Lebeau still around (and doing pretty well, despite being as old as Kiffin), they haven't been all that great the last two years.

Some say change assistants, or who gets to do what. Take the playcalling from Garrett and give it to Callahan. Has that improved anything? Doesn't seem like it. Get rid of Ryan. I was never a fan, but you have to like what he's doing in NO. Sure, he's getting more help from his offense, but there's got to be more to it than that. If he's doing so great now, where was that the last couple of years when he was here? Sure, we had injuries last year, but we weren't that great before that. And that doesn't excuse some of his sideline behavior, or that he was (supposedly) missing meetings toward the end of last year.

People say we need to scrap one scheme for another, whether it be offense or defense. Change to the 4-3. Stick with the 3-4. Do more man. Do more zone. Run the ball more. West Coast Offense. 2 TE offense. Blah blah blah. Scheme is important, but without the right players, no scheme will be successful.

So then, some say we need different players. More leaders. Fewer nice guys. Guys that don't get hurt all the time (as if that can be controlled). Guys that aren't idiots that get commit repeated penalties or get in trouble off the field.

Some question the training staff. Or the strength and conditioning coaches.

Seems like there are so many things that need to change, that it's tough to know where to start, and it's too simplistic to champion one aspect, like the head coach, or the defensive scheme. The one thing I seem to keep coming back to is the man in charge. Jerry has led an organization that is the epitome of mediocrity for almost two decades. There is still something wrong with the culture at Valley Ranch, and until it changes, I don't see things getting better. We can change coaches, players, schemes, etc. all we want, but what will that do? It's not like changing the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's like changing the crew as well, but the same guy is still driving the boat.

But of course, that part of the equation is not changing. So I ask, what other options will give us a legitimate chance of getting back to being great, in spite of the man in charge?
 

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Quickest fix: complete the OL, keep the pocket clean for Romo, be able to sustain drives and close out games, and keep this ramshackle defense off the field for as long as possible.
 

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But of course, that part of the equation is not changing. So I ask, what other options will give us a legitimate chance of getting back to being great, in spite of the man in charge?

Good Post.

17 years of replacing head coaches, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, QBs, players, schemes, stadiums, training facilities, training staff, uniforms, helmets, etc, etc, etc.

Always looking for that one thing that fixes everything.

The only thing that hasn't been replaced in the GM nor should Cowboys fans expect the GM to be replaced anytime in the near future.

Did you pay any attention to the misery of Raider's fans over the last 10 years before Davis passed away? That is the fate of the Cowboys fan.
 

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Good Post.

Did you pay any attention to the misery of Raider's fans over the last 10 years before Davis passed away? That is the fate of the Cowboys fan.

Raiders fans got Lane Kiffin; we got his geriatric dad.
 

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The playbook is the same.. We haven't changed that and it's the constant...

Under Garrett, perhaps. But what about before we got here? And is a change is in the playbook going to cure the ills? Might improve things, but there's no way it's that simple.
 

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Under Garrett, perhaps. But what about before we got here? And is a change is in the playbook going to cure the ills? Might improve things, but there's no way it's that simple.

What do you mean? 2007, with Sparano, we were pretty good and Sparano is average...

I don't get how people blame Jerry for Garrett's failures. The fact that people actually mention John Garrett is ample proof of Jason Garrett having plenty of leeway. John Garrett was made passing game coordinator. What basis did he deserve it, considering he was just a TE coach of Witten here one or 2 years. Judd Garrett is in the personnel department and their father is a good friend of Jerry. How in the world people try and absolve Garrett as having no control is just absurd.
 

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The only solution is for Jerry Jones to move the team, but the city of Dallas keep the rights to the name. I once thought the Cowboys would be ok with Jones because he hated to lose as much as I do, but I clearly see that is not the case. Jerry only cares about himself and having control, he does not care about the product on the field as long as it is his decisions that put that product on the field. Jerry would never sell the team and I have no hope things will be any different after Jerry is gone, so the only option I see is that Jerry moves the team. I never thought it would come to that for me, but it has, that's the only way I see out.
 

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Bring in a real GM and draft a clause in the family trust that requires the employment of outside management for football operations for the duration of Jones family ownership. Enact a similar prohibition on the presence of any Jones family member in the war room...ever, cancel father and son radio shows, weld the field entrance owner elevator doors shut and send Stephen out into the real world to get a job.
 

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Good Post.

17 years of replacing head coaches, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, QBs, players, schemes, stadiums, training facilities, training staff, uniforms, helmets, etc, etc, etc.

Always looking for that one thing that fixes everything.

The only thing that hasn't been replaced in the GM nor should Cowboys fans expect the GM to be replaced anytime in the near future.

Did you pay any attention to the misery of Raider's fans over the last 10 years before Davis passed away? That is the fate of the Cowboys fan.

I have been thinking that the Cowboys will replace the Raiders as the team that is run like a three ring circus for a while now. Jerry and Al runs the teams in a similar fashion. The team on the field and winning is never as important as the owner's ego and his desire to control everything.
 

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What do you mean? 2007, with Sparano, we were pretty good and Sparano is average...

I don't get how people blame Jerry for Garrett's failures. The fact that people actually mention John Garrett is ample proof of Jason Garrett having plenty of leeway. John Garrett was made passing game coordinator. What basis did he deserve it, considering he was just a TE coach of Witten here one or 2 years. Judd Garrett is in the personnel department and their father is a good friend of Jerry. How in the world people try and absolve Garrett as having no control is just absurd.

Okay, so if Sparano is average, then Garrett should get the credit for our offense being good that year. What did Sparano ever do without Garrett, or without a gimmick offense that one of his assistants came up with? I'm not trying to advocate for keeping Garrett. I think he either needs to improve, or be replaced. But even if you're right, it's still too simplistic. Just removing Garrett doesn't make us a better franchise. We might get a better offensive mind in there. Okay, what about the defense? You haven't done anything to fix that just by firing Garrett. Maybe the new HC brings in a better DC, but we don't know that. If he doesn't, we score more points, but we still don't win anything. And what about the culture of mediocrity and lack of accountability? Is a new HC going to have enough control and positive effect to make significant improvements in that area.

It goes way beyond getting rid of a coach you don't like and didn't think should have been here in the first place. The guy who allowed for that to happen is still in charge.
 

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I have been thinking that the Cowboys will replace the Raiders as the team that is run like a three ring circus for a while now. Jerry and Al runs the teams in a similar fashion. The team on the field and winning is never as important as the owner's ego and his desire to control everything.

Here is the funny thing -- For the longest time I've never bought into the belief that Jerry really, truly, put his ego ahead of his will to field a winning franchise. I just didn't believe it.

The total acceptance of mediocrity thrust upon this club hiring has-been uninspiring coordinators such as Bill Callahan and Monte Kiffin has been such a terrible terrible decision that was questioned by everyone inside and outside of Dallas from the get-go that I simply don't know anymore.... maybe Jerry does put his ego and the need to have yes-men around him AHEAD of winning.

It sucks that I even feel conflicted about it.
 

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Bring in a real GM and draft a clause in the family trust that requires the employment of outside management for football operations for the duration of Jones family ownership. Enact a similar prohibition on the presence of any Jones family member in the war room...ever, cancel father and son radio shows, weld the field entrance owner elevator doors shut and send Stephen out into the real world to get a job.

That would be great, but will never happen. If that's the only effective solution ,we're sunk.
 

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Your answer is really simple and really the only thing thats has worked with this franchise and this GM. An experienced Superbowl winning Head Coach like a Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells. Someone who knows how to build a team, knows how to draft, game plan an motivate players and most importantly keep the Jones out of football operations............only 2 coaches have suceeded in doing this. All others have failed miserably just the same way Garrett is now.
 

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Here is the funny thing -- For the longest time I've never bought into the belief that Jerry really, truly, put his ego ahead of his will to field a winning franchise. I just didn't believe it.

The total acceptance of mediocrity thrust upon this club hiring has-been uninspiring coordinators such as Bill Callahan and Monte Kiffin has been such a terrible terrible decision that was questioned by everyone inside and outside of Dallas from the get-go that I simply don't know anymore.... maybe Jerry does put his ego and the need to have yes-men around him AHEAD of winning.

It sucks that I even feel conflicted about it.

Yessir!

Makes me crazy when some fans call him "the greatest owner in sports."

My idea of the best owner in sports DOES NOT put his pride/ego/machismo in front of the team's success, all so he can "prove" to others that he's the reason for the success.

My idea of the best owner removes all obstacles to success including his inflated ego.

Jerry is far from the greatest owner.
 

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That would be great, but will never happen. If that's the only effective solution ,we're sunk.

I don't think there is one, and we probably are. Sports at its heart is nothing more than entertainment. We have a heck of an entertaining franchise here and while people want to call Jerry an idiot (football wise I can be convinced) he's a genius for what he's made this team as far as being in the spotlight.

Unfortunately, people like me and perhaps a lot of you can't just take it as that and it ruins some Sundays, and probably affects us way more than it should. I wish it didn't at times, but what can you do? I still love the team.

Other than a few handful of teams (mostly due to generational QBs like Brady and Manning) football seasons seem to be a random walk anyway. Our teams trends just seem to change more frequently than most. While some teams have good years, we only have good games. All the more entertaining....
 
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