What's the Vision for the Cowboys in 2025?

[shabazz]

I think they envision having a line that can dominate so much in the run game, it almost doesn't matter who the back is.

The problem with that type of thinking is that last season the Eagles, Packers and other teams already had better offensive lines than we had and still aquired Saquon and Josh Jacobs.

That's what going all in really means to GMs.

The Pickens move is the type of move I've been wanting but if you only aquire a player of that magnitude by FA or trade every 7 years it's not doing enough.....Amari Cooper was the last move like that and that was 2018.

 

[conner01]

On paper, I totally agree. I believe (again, on paper) they did improve the offense. Obviously we won't know what we have until after preseason and into game 2 or 3 of the regular season.

So true. Until they play it’s just hopes lol by ganes 3-4 you kinda see what you got. Then sits about staying healthy. We are gonna start the season Shott handed on D but hopefully we have solid replacements till they are all healthy. And the rookies need to start strong

 

[Chasing6]

Whatever they say the vision is— it’s been playing out like this for 30 years:

The vision of what they want the team to be, and what the team is capable of, are two completely different things.

We talked about getting more physical and running the ball. Our biggest moves outside of the draft was for trading for WR and signing a DE.

Neither of which specifically helped our run game or run defense.

 

[Chasing6]

I think theyre gonna be a run first team and let Dak use a lot of play action. The defense is a huge question mark.

Well pretty sure they did not trade for Pickens to be a run first team. They just want to be a more balanced team and don't have to throw the ball 50 times a game.

 

[Praxit]

Won't take that long.

..amen bro. We need them sooner. But I understand the importance of injury.

 

[Pass2Run]

The vision of what they want the team to be, and what the team is capable of, are two completely different things.

We talked about getting more physical and running the ball. Our biggest moves outside of the draft was for trading for WR and signing a DE.

Neither of which specifically helped our run game or run defense.

That's the reason I'm asking though. What is their vision for 2025? And can they achieve it? If so, how?

 

[Chasing6]

That's the reason I'm asking though. What is their vision for 2025? And can they achieve it? If so, how?

Well you have to ask. Does the entire organization have the same vision?

 

[soopastar4]

They have said it all off season physicality!

 

[Chasing6]

They have said it all off season physicality!

That is not what they did in FA.

 

[plasticman]

The "committee" hasn't convened yet to decide which successful team's vision they want to copy.

If they think they can turn the worse running offense in 2024 into the best for 2025 with mid-level free agents and 3rd day draft picks at RB and put them behind a rookie and two 2nd year O-linemen then they have demonstrated, once again, there is no unified vision.

I hear them talking but they have made it very clear that their words do not match their actions and are, therefore meaningless. They are just telling us what they think we want to hear.

Schotty could be absolutely sincere in describing what he wants because he still hasn't fully come to terms with the reality that his opinion is one of about five with comparable status as far as Jerry is concerned.

It is difficult to be a team-builder when you work for towners whose efforts have only resulted in destruction.

 

[Dalmations202]

Jones vision..... $$$$$$$ and sugar plums dance in their heads

 

[diamonddelts]

I mean, not what you want. Use your theory of mind. What is their vision?

Every year teams start with a vision of how they want to be and every year they make adjustments attempting to account for their vision of their team.

I think they envision having a line that can dominate so much in the run game, it almost doesn't matter who the back is. That said, that's just a way to cover their arses if injuries at RB happen. I also think they see Jaydon Blue as an NFL ready back, who can contribute this year. If he does anything, work on those fumbles.

Pickens will stretch the field and make teams pay for doubling Lamb. Our TEs will be more involved in the running game this year as I expect quite a few 12 sets from Shottenheimer. That, along with the additional threat or Pickens also opens more opportunities for TE passing production. This will be a better year for our TEs.

Overall, I think the Cowboys think they'll have an electric offense for the 2025 season, and I like their optimism even if they are gambling in some areas. Those are good bets, and may lay off.

I think they expect this to be a good year for special teams and consistent with the previous few years.

As far as defense, I think they believe Eberflus can take an underachieving defense from last year and make them competitive this year. To be honest, I think they may be right.

Eberflus emphasizes takeaways and pressure, and he's done it with lessor players, I'd say, in Indianapolis.

If guys like Revel and Overshown can play by week 8 or 9, I think they think this team has a fighting chance down the stretch using Eberflus' rather vanilla scheme. They may be right. But I think the Cowboys also envision Odhigizuwa having a larger role in this new scheme, which is based on pressures probably moreso than sacks. Given the strategy, mostly zone coverages with a 4-5 man rush, they probably think they'll have a shot at being a team ranked in the top 5 in takeaways if this group can generate pressure.

Im not sure what what they're envisioning at safety, but hopefully they work that out.

Their vision is a good ol' boy hiring system that rewards mediocrity.

 

[Pass2Run]

Well pretty sure they did not trade for Pickens to be a run first team. They just want to be a more balanced team and don't have to throw the ball 50 times a game.

Exactly. You need to be able to pass in order to run in this league.

 

[Chasing6]

The "committee" hasn't convened yet to decide which successful team's vision they want to copy.

If they think they can turn the worse running offense in 2024 into the best for 2025 with mid-level free agents and 3rd day draft picks at RB and put them behind a rookie and two 2nd year O-linemen then they have demonstrated, once again, there is no unified vision.

I hear them talking but they have made it very clear that their words do not match their actions and are, therefore meaningless. They are just telling us what they think we want to hear.

Schotty could be absolutely sincere in describing what he wants because he still hasn't fully come to terms with the reality that his opinion is one of about five with comparable status as far as Jerry is concerned.

It is difficult to be a team-builder when you work for towners whose efforts have only resulted in destruction.

It is common sense when you have the highest paid QB, 1 of the highest paid WR and trade a soon to be another highest paid WR. They are planning on throwing the football.

If we can get to just a more balanced attack, I think they would be happy.

25 rushing attempts with 35 passes seems about right.

If we have to go 15 and 45 it is going to be a Loss.

 

[dupree89]

If we can get to just a more balanced attack, I think they would be happy.

25 rushing attempts with 35 passes seems about right.

id like to see those numbers reversed

 

[quickccc]

Will the vision (pipe dream ?) ... be the dream of Dan Campbell and the Lions of the last 3 years ..?

 

[plasticman]

It is common sense when you have the highest paid QB, 1 of the highest paid WR and trade a soon to be another highest paid WR. They are planning on throwing the football.

If we can get to just a more balanced attack, I think they would be happy.

25 rushing attempts with 35 passes seems about right.

If we have to go 15 and 45 it is going to be a Loss.

Cowboys 29-34 when Dak throws 33 or more passes.

............47-11 when Dak throw 32 or less passes.

The key is a dominant running attack.

Dak is a very good quarterback in a balanced offense. He is not the strong arm, pinpoint accuracy elite passer that strikes fear into a defenses late in the 4th quarter. He is an efficient field general getting the ball into the hands of the playmakers,

 

[75boyz]

Cowboys 29-34 when Dak throws 33 or more passes.

............47-11 when Dak throw 32 or less passes.

The key is a dominant running attack.

Dak is a very good quarterback in a balanced offense. He is not the strong arm, pinpoint accuracy elite passer that strikes fear into a defenses late in the 4th quarter. He is an efficient field general getting the ball into the hands of the playmakers,

I think Pass2Run needs to read this.
After reading these facts it sounds like Run2Pass should be this team's goal.

 

[75boyz]

Exactly. You need to be able to pass in order to run in this league.

Read plasticman's post #37.

 

[plasticman]

I think Pass2Run needs to read this.
After reading these facts it sounds like Run2Pass should be this team's goal.

Both Dak and Romo's best statistical seasons, 2014 and 2016 respectively, coincided with the Cowboys RB leading the league in rushing yardage.

They have a history of drafting the type of O-linemen compatible with a successful running game, big, strong body movers.

Often, their weakest area was the resolve of the OC to commit to the running game despite the initial productivity. Abandoning the run was practically an invitation for opponents front seven to ignore the possibility of a run play. They simply pinned their ears back and raced to Dak and Romo.

As an OC, Jason Garrett would freak out if a running play yielded nothing or worse. You wouldn't see another running play for a very long time. Kellen Moore had the same issue sometimes. i'm talking 1st quarter, behind by a single score, every situation.

During the first six games of the 2010 season, Jason had the RB carry the ball on both 1st and 2nd down only twice. Ironically, they both made 1st downs.