When Players Have No Fear

[Hostile]

What I really liked last night was that Romo took some hard shots early and seemed unfazed. He came right back and hung in the pocket when he had to. The guy is simply amazing to me!

Exactly.

On 3rd and long the last 4 years if we had a bad play on 2nd down, Parcells would call a Draw. Like clockwork.

Romo goes for it, even in the face of a blitz. Even when it doesn't quite get there, he doesn't back off.

Him talking the caoching staff into a timeout to go for it on 4th down was outstanding IMO. The fact that they had the confidence to reverse themselves and believe in him was great.

He didn't go back in trying to draw the Bears offsides to get the 1st. He threw it right down the pipe.

 

[percyhoward]

He didn't go back in trying to draw the Bears offsides to get the 1st. He threw it right down the pipe.

I just shook my head and laughed when Michaels said we were gonna try and draw them offsides.

 

[Hostile]

I just shook my head and laughed when Michaels said we were gonna try and draw them offsides.

I actually thought that was exactly what we'd do. Man was I ever glad to be wrong.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Playing-to-win as opposed to playing-not-to-lose, that's the difference. Parcells plays from fear, fear of making mistakes, fear of letting the other team do something. Wade plays from confidence, we will do whatever it takes to win the game.

Huge difference IMO.

Sorry to repost it again, but Ben Hogan said that when you first play a golf course, you see the fairways and greens. As you play it more and hit a few bad shots into places you don't want to go, you start seeing the bunkers and trees and water hazards instead.

It seems like that's what happened to Parcells. As he got older, he started seeing all the bad things that could happen when you attack rather than all the good things. Somehow Wade has kept that attacking mentality and open-mindedness, probably partly because that's naturally more his mentality and partly because he's able to trust the young talent (Garrett) on his staff and not stifle them.

I know that will drive some of the hardcore Parcells defenders nuts, but it shouldn't. Sure, we might lose a game here or there from not being conservative enough, but I think most people can accept that... Including the players.

 

[JerryFan]

Exactly.

On 3rd and long the last 4 years if we had a bad play on 2nd down, Parcells would call a Draw. Like clockwork.

Romo goes for it, even in the face of a blitz. Even when it doesn't quite get there, he doesn't back off.

Him talking the caoching staff into a timeout to go for it on 4th down was outstanding IMO. The fact that they had the confidence to reverse themselves and believe in him was great.

He didn't go back in trying to draw the Bears offsides to get the 1st. He threw it right down the pipe.

I was shocked when we hiked the ball honestly. The great thing was you could read Tony's lips coming back to the sideline "lets go for it". LOVE IT. I think this team has BP's toughness with coaches who allow them to be more aggressive in the schemes. BP has to have a huge smile on his face where ever he is, because you know regardless of what happened he loves this team and knows he built it.

 

[theogt]

The O Line is definitely better this year.

And the young guys are stepping up. Hurd, Reeves. with Glenn and Newman missing time.

Plus Romo and barber kind of had their learning curve over the course of last year so I was expecting that those two would play this year.

Having said that, i still give props to this years coaching staff for knowing how to use the players we have, that seems like a big improvement over last year.

The O-line is definitely better. But Crayton and Hurd are nothing compared to Glenn. And while Hamlin is an improvement in the secondary, not having Newman is like night and day. Ratliff is playing admirably, but who wouldn't be more comfortable with Ferguson back in the lineup?

I'll stick with my assessment that there's less talent on this team than last year, but we're getting more out of it.

 

[percyhoward]

Somehow Wade has kept that attacking mentality and open-mindedness, probably partly because that's naturally more his mentality and partly because he's able to trust the young talent (Garrett) on his staff and not stifle them.

I think a big part of it is that Wade's got nothing to lose (but another job), whereas Parcells could have stayed retired and slid on into the HOF.

 

[RomoIsBack]

hamlin will get better he will i know it

 

[Hoov]

The O-line is definitely better. But Crayton and Hurd are nothing compared to Glenn. And while Hamlin is an improvement in the secondary, not having Newman is like night and day. Ratliff is playing admirably, but who wouldn't be more comfortable with Ferguson back in the lineup?

I'll stick with my assessment that there's less talent on this team than last year, but we're getting more out of it.

Yes, we are getting more out of the players we have.

Romo is playing incredibly well, some of that is attributable to the coaches, but something also has to be said for him having a year under his belt and working with first team all through the offseason plus having better protection and a good run game.

I am definitely pleased with the change in coaching and the way players are being utilized, when i say the young guys are stepping up - that too could be attributed to this coaching staff. Of course the guys filling in are not as good as fergy, glenn, newman - but as far as juding overall talent of the entire team, i think we are in better position to win this year than last year and some of that has to do with the maturation of some players on offense and defense (and i am assuming newmann will cont to play and play more than just nickel)

But dont get me wrong, i agree with your point about the way this coaching staff is utilizing the players.

 

[superpunk]

Arguably there's less "talent" on this team this year than last. There's something different and it obviously comes from the coaching staff.

Please, get off your anti-Parcells rump a minute and realize I wasn't saying that the change is because we are more talented.

I am saying the change only works when you have the talent to execute your aggressiveness. If the talent stops getting it done, suddenly Wade is hapless Son-of-Bum who doesn't know what he's doing in the NFL, and is too much of an idiot to stop listening to players and make his own calls.

 

[theogt]

Please, get off your anti-Parcells rump a minute and realize I wasn't saying that the change is because we are more talented.

It's not an anti-Parcells rump. It's an anti-anti-anti-Parcells rump, thank you very much.

I am saying the change only works when you have the talent to execute your aggressiveness. If the talent stops getting it done, suddenly Wade is hapless Son-of-Bum who doesn't know what he's doing in the NFL, and is too much of an idiot to stop listening to players and make his own calls.

And I'm saying that if Parcells would have played like this schematically last year, the results would have been similar to this year.

 

[Boom]

But, when a pressure decision came, and his players assured him they would execute - he trusted them. Since that worked, it really helps everyone feel great. If it starts not working, you have the "inmates running the asylum" scenario.

The perspective varies based on execution.

Quoted for truth. As soon as one of these trusting situations fails and costs a game, it becomes reckless playcalling.

 

[superpunk]

And I'm saying that if Parcells would have played like this schematically last year, the results would have been similar to this year.

Or maybe if we'd have had Leonard Davis, instead of bum-*** Marco Rivera, and a Marion Barber who looks more and more like he is a feature back every game, and established a consistent run game, it would have been similar....blah blah blah.

The players are executing now, that's lovely.

But if Romo and Owens had failed on 4th down, and Grossman tosses a strike to berrian to close the gap over Roy Williams, suddenly this place is in full melt down, and JFE is asking Wade if he's lost control of his team and has let "The Player" mold his playcalling.

And to Wade's credit, he doesn't seem to care.

 

[theogt]

Or maybe if we'd have had Leonard Davis, instead of bum-*** Marco Rivera, and a Marion Barber who looks more and more like he is a feature back every game, and established a consistent run game, it would have been similar....blah blah blah.

The players are executing now, that's lovely.

But if Romo and Owens had failed on 4th down, and Grossman tosses a strike to berrian to close the gap over Roy Williams, suddenly this place is in full melt down, and JFE is asking Wade if he's lost control of his team and has let "The Player" mold his playcalling.

And to Wade's credit, he doesn't seem to care.

Strangely, you act as if players executing has nothing to do with the playcalling.

 

[superpunk]

Strangely, you act as if players executing has nothing to do with the playcalling.

Not even sure how to respond to this nonsense. So...:zipit:

 

[theogt]

Not even sure how to respond to this nonsense. So...:zipit:

It's that you think it's non-sense that is why there's a disconnect here. Players can "execute" bad play calls and still not have great results.

It takes both players and coaches. Otherwise teams wouldn't spend money on them.

 

[superpunk]

It's that you think it's non-sense that is why there's a disconnect here. Players can "execute" bad play calls and still not have great results.

It takes both players and coaches. Otherwise teams wouldn't spend money on them.

No ****, sherlock.

 

[theogt]

No ****, sherlock.

Your posts give off this vibe of, "It doesn't matter who calls the plays or what play is called, as long as the players have talent and execute."

Whether you intended it or not, that's the vibe I'm getting (from this thread and others all off-season). I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, of course.

 

[dogunwo]

I actually thought that was exactly what we'd do. Man was I ever glad to be wrong.

I think the Bears actually called that time out, and Romo used that opportunity to lobby to go for it. It was a great call, and the only thing wrong was the drive ended up for no points.

 

[ethiostar]

One thing that i love about this coaching staff is that they have confidence in the players. On forth down, Romo wanted to go for it and they let him. After the first kick-off went out of bounds, Keith Davis went up to the ST coach and suggested we kick to him and he promised they will cover him.

Just having coaches who trust you to get it done, gives you confidence and makes you accountable. Now they need to keep excuting to maintain the coaches trust.

The big players (TO, JW, Romo, Ware, MBIII, etc...) are stepping up, obviously but other players are also starting to contribute on key plays. Mcquistan's great effort, Hurd's block, Keith Davis' stripping the ball from Hester, etc...........

I don't want to get carried away but the way the OL is playing (except stupid Flo-start penalties), Romo on fire with his recievers, and MBIII running like a wild man out there, imagine what this team will be like when we get T. Glenn, Ellis, and TNew back.

I'm starting to feel a little better about the NE game in three weeks.