When they write that Romo hasn't proven he can win a big game...

FCBarca;3066400 said:
^ Yup...And as solid a job as Tony has done in a few of these key wins, he's got a longer history of disappearing in December than he does this recent run...So until it changes, it's a bit illogical to suggest he's 'turned the corner'...The corner gets turned when the corner comes and goes

A lot of that will depend on the team. Romo is not losing in December the Cowboys are and have not played well period. People need to wake up this is not about Romo it is about the Dallas Cowboys which is more than 1 man.
 
TwoDeep3;3066397 said:
Yes, you are Hos.

Because deep inside no matter what, Romo has to get over that hump. He is carrying that monkey on his back. And you can label fans as you see fit, but you can't convince me you don't believe he has emotions and his nerves are rusty razor blades when it means the most.

Just like all the players.

Think back to Aikman. The 1991 season where he got hurt and missed so much time that Beurlein filled in. They tossed Troy out against the Lions and he lost his first play-off game.

Not his fault, but surely you have to understand he took something away from that game and it wasn't budding confidence.

Not until next year when he saddled up the passing game and took them to the championship.

To brush away what the player must be thinking and feeling, perhaps questioning himself and if the press is right ignores we all have butterflies and feel responsible when things are out of our control.

He has moxie but he also has shown the face of being beaten down when games are at a premium and he didn't deliver.

I answered your little bit of Hostile and said some things I will not repeat here.

But I find your dismissal of Romo's emotions in this as kind of scuttling your point.

This isn't about fans that follow a herd. This isn't about fans who don't want him to be brilliant.

But this is about confidence. And when you see and hear fans here that express the team would gained much needed confidence by beating the Eagles, how can Romo be any different.

He can't. And while this is a stepping stone to his answering all the critics, it is not the final chapter in his growing up and being a championship caliber player.

He took a big step last night. But he could have lost that game due to many things and still walk away knowing he played a controlled, patient, and exceptional game taking what he could and protecting the rock.

You cannot explain this by making blanket statements about fans when the players confidence is where this really lies.

Tony put on the big boy pants last night. But there is more work to do.


That was a long post to say that Romo may have won last night but he still has to win a playoff game or a big game.

How much bigger do they get than last night?
 
Doomsday101;3066411 said:
A lot of that will depend on the team. Romo is not losing in December the Cowboys are and have not played well period. People need to wake up this is not about Romo it is about the Dallas Cowboys which is more than 1 man.

There's no point in rehashing what is already in the history books but there are several examples similar to the Pittsburgh debacle in December that fell on the shoulders of Romo.

Games are lost by the entire team but let's not rewrite history and somehow diminish Romo's role in the December slide...He's not alone but he sure played a large part in it

I'm not even sure why everyone feels the need to somehow crown the season a success and all the 'haters' are crazy etc...Enjoy the win, we all want to...Then let's see what unfolds...The win and wins of late do not erase December slides of past anymore than they guarantee success/failure going forward...When they build some momentum and actually take it up a notch to another level, i.e. December/January run, then let's talk about what is what
 
FCBarca;3066422 said:
There's no point in rehashing what is already in the history books but there are several examples similar to the Pittsburgh debacle in December that fell on the shoulders of Romo.

Games are lost by the entire team but let's not rewrite history and somehow diminish Romo's role in the December slide...He's not alone but he sure played a large part in it

And the play of a QB hinges on the play of those around him Pitt game Witten turns the wrong way on a pass it cost an int. The fact Dallas gave up more sacks in the month of Dec than they had all season long putting Romo under big time pressure. I'm not rewriting history I talking flat out fact and the only way Romo is going to have success in dec and jan is by the guys around him protecting him and this team remaining focused. I don't care what QB your talking about if you can't help him out he is not going to win.
 
Aikmaniac;3066417 said:
That was a long post to say that Romo may have won last night but he still has to win a playoff game or a big game.

How much bigger do they get than last night?

When it is January and you are playing a play-off game on the road against a team that is favored.

Or even in your home stadium when it is win or go home.

We could have lost last night and still win the division. Surely last year and the Eagles success the last week of the season proves anything can happen.

They not only had to beat us but have several other things break exactly right for that game to get them into the play-offs.

So last night was a terrific hard fought November game, but it wasn't sink or swim.

Romo stepped up last night. He gained confidence that he can compete when it is important and the sledding isn't easy.

It will serve him later in the year.

But this wasn't nearly as big a game as some make out.
 
I think any honest, level headed fan of the Dallas Cowboys knows that the "Big Game" saying is complete horse manure.

It's the ones who jump from bandwagon to bandwagon who say Romo's the best QB ever and then two weeks later want Kitna to be starting are the ones who say that.

I try to not discuss football with those types.
 
Sure, Romo already won a few big games. Look at the win against the Packers in 07, last years win @Washington or even in December against the Giants. Those games sure qualify as big games and he won them. Yesterdays game is among those although we could've taken a loss without major damage to our playoff hopes.
But it's also true, that he didn't win any games that actually were win-or-go-home games. That is a reality. Though I think he didn't lose these games either. Last year in Philly was a team collapse, the loss to the Giants wasn't his fault and that bobbled snap thing in Seattle was just unlucky.

Bottom line: At some point he has to prove, that he can win games when the season could be over in 60 minutes. I'm sure he will and I hope we see it soon.
 
TwoDeep3;3066397 said:
Think back to Aikman. The 1991 season where he got hurt and missed so much time that Beurlein filled in. They tossed Troy out against the Lions and he lost his first play-off game.

Not his fault, but surely you have to understand he took something away from that game and it wasn't budding confidence.

Not until next year when he saddled up the passing game and took them to the championship.

So you're saying that losing to the Lions killed Troy's confidence, and the proof is that he won his next 7 straight post-season games? Huh? From where I sit, it's pretty clear that losing a playoff game was just that - losing a game. And it had nothing to do with his confidence or performance going forward.
 
FCBarca;3066400 said:
^ Yup...And as solid a job as Tony has done in a few of these key wins, he's got a longer history of disappearing in December than he does this recent run...So until it changes, it's a bit illogical to suggest he's 'turned the corner'...The corner gets turned when the corner comes and goes

Agreed.

Peyton Manning didn't shed his "reputation" for not being able to win the "big game" until he won the AFC Championship against the Patriots.

Like it or not, the tag won't leave Romo until he wins a playoff game and until he gets the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

Even winning a playoff game, won't do it. After that first playoff win, he's going to be expected to get to a Super Bowl and win.

Otherwise, he'll have the same reputation as McNabb does - a choker in the really big game, i.e., Super Bowl.
 
TwoDeep3;3066397 said:
Think back to Aikman. The 1991 season where he got hurt and missed so much time that Beurlein filled in. They tossed Troy out against the Lions and he lost his first play-off game.

Beuerlein started that game. Aikman didn't play until the last few seconds of the first half, when we already were behind 17-6.
 
Whole heartedly agree.

Sadly, it will always be, "What have you done for me lately?"

Rather than supporting Romo, or the team as a whole for that matter, it will always boil down to last week's performance. If you make the playoffs and lose, he'll be bashed for that. If he finally gets the playoff win monkey off his back, and loses in the Playoff or Championship game, it will be that. If we make the Super Bowl and he loses, it will be that.

If he wins the Super Bowl, but fails to qualify for a PGA tournament, it will be that.

Ain't easy being the QB of America's team. But Romo handles it with dignity and maturity. How? By not listening to any of it, taking responsibility for the weaknesses in his game and working hard at practice to correct them, and by saying all the right things to the media.

I still say this has more to do with the Cowboys failures as a team than anything. 13 years is a long time. The load just happens to fall on Tony as it would any quarterback. But if you look at the numbers, he's a tremendous QB.

One thing that bothers me... I don't ever see the Romo bashers yapping in here when he performs well. I mean, if you're supposedly a fan, shouldn't you be celebrating the victory with us, or do they just circle around like vultures waiting for a loss. Eh... Such is life....
 
TwoDeep3;3066292 said:
This game was important, but not a big game. One in which he has to win or it's see you next year.

A loss would have put us 0-2 in the division, and a game behind the Eagles, and a loser in head 2 head versus the Eagles and Giants.

That was a big game. Losing to the Eagles would have made the Packers game (NFC game versus a potential wild card contender) a must win in my book.
 
TwoDeep3;3066397 said:
Yes, you are Hos.
Actually, I wasn't wrong at all TD. I predicted the troglodyte responses and they have happened.
 
Hostile;3066731 said:
Actually, I wasn't wrong at all TD. I predicted the troglodyte responses and they have happened.

Dippin in the webster.
 
TwoDeep3;3066292 said:
This game was important, but not a big game. One in which he has to win or it's see you next year.


did you make any posts saying this wasnt a big game last week?
 
Hostile;3066345 said:
See some of the responses.

Was I wrong?

The good thing for me is that most of the people who spout the same mindless drivel about "he hasn't proven anything until he wins a playoff game" are on my ignore list so I don't even see their responses unless someone quotes them which just reminds me of why they are on my ignore list in the first place.

I really don't care what they have to say so it doesn't bother me as much.

Tony Romo has PROVEN that he is a top level QB in the NFL and a winner and I for one am VERY glad to have him as our QB! :starspin
 
The Eagles did everything that used to force bad games out of Romo. Tony not only kept his cool, but he prevailed against a very good defense who threw the whole kitchen sink at him.

Romo has won several big games for instance his first few starts were huge games and that big game against Green Bay in 2007.

This was advertised as a huge game and I hope we all remember that when the media writes it off as just another win and start throwing that useless stat of how many wins the teams we have beat have.
 
Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.
 
bbgun;3066779 said:
Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.

100% agree, I think we all tend to give the QB more credit and far more blame than they deserve. I am guilty of that often.
 
bbgun;3066779 said:
Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.

I agree. This was a team win, Dallas fought tooth and nail with Philly. Romo played his part and did very well but it took a lot of guys stepping up and making plays both offense and defensively to win this game. I hope it continues. To me it is not about 1 guy it is about the Dallas Cowboys and when they put it all together I think the sky will be the limit for this team
 

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