Where's this team at with this roster?

jazzcat22 said:
Yes you are correct, you do know far less than others. And you are still wrong.
You triple down yet again on your ignorance.
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At this point, I would add you to my ignore list if it were possible. Stop trolling.
 
Creeper said:
I think this pretty much covers all the bases.

I think Dallas is hoping for major improvements from Guyton and Beebe in their second year. I think they are hoping the improvement they saw from Steele the latter part of the season continues in 2025. The question mark is who takes over for Zack Martin/ Hoffman, Bass, Richards, etc.? They key for me is Guyton. If he doesn't show major improvement over last year the Cowboys offense is going to struggle.

I am almost certain the Cowboys are going to draft a WR in the first round. I suspect it will be Golden. Not sure that moves the needle much but it's better than what they have.

I agree, we need more talent on the DL. But I think they expect improvement out of Kneeland and Mazi. I am skeptical of both, but if there is one who will improve it will be Kneeland. This draft is deep with DTs and if I was Dallas I would take 2 or 3 and hope one of them is a stud.

CB is an interesting situations. Basically, they have Bland. Diggs is coming off another injury and we have no idea what he will look like or when he will be ready. They traded for Elam, who was not great for his old team. Josh Butler looked pretty good when they played him last year, then he got hurt. Andrew Booth was not very good. Caelen Carson was a rookie and looked inconsistent then he got hurt. Amani Oruwariye looked okay at times, but he also got hurt. Because Diggs is a question mark I would not be shocked if Dallas drafted a CB in round 2.

I think we all agree the Cowboys need to find at least 3 starters in this draft.
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Agree with all. Very nice summary and post.
 
Whyjerry said:
So where is everyone on this roster? Dumpster diving in FA, couple trades, draft picks, still some FAs worth a look. From now to July what do you guys think we need to field a competitive team? Here is where I am…

OL - Not sold on the tackles. I think they need to still grab a starting caliber OT.

WR - Weak group. Imagine if Lamb was hurt. I think they need a strong #2 guy.

RB - Worst group on the team. I think they need to draft a starter capable of being a 20 touch bell cow.

DL - Fowler helps but they need a major talent upgrade inside and out. I think they still need 2 starting quality players to play DT and DE.

LB - If Overshown is back I am good but if not I still think they need a solid rotational guy.

CBs - With or without Diggs this needs to be a major focus. Do they lock up Bland? This will be a major need next season and you can never have enough good CBs so I think this is a major need.

S - Close one. Major need next season but set for now. I think they need to focus on the other areas of need but if they
picked up another quality S I wouldn’t mind.

Given the state of the roster I think they need to hit on 3/4 picks plus still grab a FA or 2.

What do you guys think?
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A lot to address and some what ifs among the young guys. With Fowler, Williams, and Kneeland in the mix I don't think DE is a flashing red light need, but wouldn't steer away from taking one. You can never have enough pass rushers and looking to next year it becomes a much bigger need as 2 of those guys are approaching free agency. They should definitely be adding guys in the draft.

DT remains a big need and at minimum need atleast rotational guys.

CB: May face the biggest unknowns vs any position. If healthy Bland and Diggs could be one of the better starting duos, but thats a big if. Then they have a bunch of guys behind them that are unproven. Carson could take a step forward but they need not only a stable veteran presence but more rookies in there to compete.

OT: It all hinges on Guyton's growth, you have to believe you can develop him otherwise you have to invest here early as well.

RB: I don't know that they're in a different spot vs last year but must invest here in the draft. If they don't come out with a back on day 2 or 1 this isn't setting up for success.

WR: Tolbert took a big step forward and think he's a fine number 3 option, but can he ascend to number 2? I wouldn't bank on it. They should absolutely bring a unsigned veteran in. The top 4-5 rookies is a much weaker class than in previous years and outside of 1 or 2 guys I don't know how much of an impact they could instantly make.

Right now I see 3 big priorities at RB, CB, WR. Then some secondary priorities at DT and OT, where they could be ok at starting positions if guys like Guyton and Mazi step up but there are valid concerns. Honestly they just need to go BPA across those 5 positions the first 3 rounds, then use day 3 to add guys in the trenches and maybe another corner.
 
blueblood70 said:
Did I miss something do we really need to discuss what the roster looks like right now 'cause do we have a game Sunday like am I missing something or are we gearing up for a game next week or two weeks or three weeks or five months oh that's right it's five months can we talk about the roster at least when it gets to training camp this is pre draft too soon talk about the roster... I don't think there's many teams out there that are ready for a game if the if it started Sunday not because of not in game shape I don't think their roster is fully made either..
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The idea that any given draft is going to move the needle much is the root of the entire problem.

The top FA are gone and June 1 cuts are a designation, not a second wave of good talent.

Best case scenario for this draft doesn’t change what this team is destined to be this season.

You said this last year, and probably the year before. Yeah there’s no game for five months but other than phoning up a DT that’s on the couch in August, this roster isn’t changing much over that period of time.
 
Kingofholland said:
A lot to address and some what ifs among the young guys. With Fowler, Williams, and Kneeland in the mix I don't think DE is a flashing red light need, but wouldn't steer away from taking one. You can never have enough pass rushers and looking to next year it becomes a much bigger need as 2 of those guys are approaching free agency. They should definitely be adding guys in the draft.

DT remains a big need and at minimum need atleast rotational guys.

CB: May face the biggest unknowns vs any position. If healthy Bland and Diggs could be one of the better starting duos, but thats a big if. Then they have a bunch of guys behind them that are unproven. Carson could take a step forward but they need not only a stable veteran presence but more rookies in there to compete.

OT: It all hinges on Guyton's growth, you have to believe you can develop him otherwise you have to invest here early as well.

RB: I don't know that they're in a different spot vs last year but must invest here in the draft. If they don't come out with a back on day 2 or 1 this isn't setting up for success.

WR: Tolbert took a big step forward and think he's a fine number 3 option, but can he ascend to number 2? I wouldn't bank on it. They should absolutely bring a unsigned veteran in. The top 4-5 rookies is a much weaker class than in previous years and outside of 1 or 2 guys I don't know how much of an impact they could instantly make.

Right now I see 3 big priorities at RB, CB, WR. Then some secondary priorities at DT and OT, where they could be ok at starting positions if guys like Guyton and Mazi step up but there are valid concerns. Honestly they just need to go BPA across those 5 positions the first 3 rounds, then use day 3 to add guys in the trenches and maybe another corner.
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Nice post.
I'd place my own personal biggest need on a better 1T early and even 2 maybe, because of absolutely zero faith in Mazi and lack of runstopping DT depth currently onboard.

Other than that, my draft and current roster opinions align very similarly with yours.
 
Whyjerry said:
So where is everyone on this roster? Dumpster diving in FA, couple trades, draft picks, still some FAs worth a look. From now to July what do you guys think we need to field a competitive team? Here is where I am…

OL - Not sold on the tackles. I think they need to still grab a starting caliber OT.

WR - Weak group. Imagine if Lamb was hurt. I think they need a strong #2 guy.

RB - Worst group on the team. I think they need to draft a starter capable of being a 20 touch bell cow.

DL - Fowler helps but they need a major talent upgrade inside and out. I think they still need 2 starting quality players to play DT and DE.

LB - If Overshown is back I am good but if not I still think they need a solid rotational guy.

CBs - With or without Diggs this needs to be a major focus. Do they lock up Bland? This will be a major need next season and you can never have enough good CBs so I think this is a major need.

S - Close one. Major need next season but set for now. I think they need to focus on the other areas of need but if they
picked up another quality S I wouldn’t mind.

Given the state of the roster I think they need to hit on 3/4 picks plus still grab a FA or 2.

What do you guys think?
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this roster is full of holes. we made bunch of trades and signed a bunch of nobodies...same as last year. this roster is not ready to compete for anything.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
this roster is full of holes. we made bunch of trades and signed a bunch of nobodies...same as last year. this roster is not ready to compete for anything.
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To be clear I don’t think they are winning a thing. I am talking about being competitive.
 
LACowboysFan1 said:
No need for all the detail. This team can be summed up in a couple of points.

1. Kicking game is top notch.
2. The rest of the team is average to slightly above average. While there are a couple of great to very good players scattered throughout the rest of the areas, in no other area - receivers, running backs, lines, etc. are they top notch.

Average, in a word.
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Spot on! Why do I even bother.
 
Whyjerry said:
So where is everyone on this roster? Dumpster diving in FA, couple trades, draft picks, still some FAs worth a look. From now to July what do you guys think we need to field a competitive team? Here is where I am…

OL - Not sold on the tackles. I think they need to still grab a starting caliber OT.

WR - Weak group. Imagine if Lamb was hurt. I think they need a strong #2 guy.

RB - Worst group on the team. I think they need to draft a starter capable of being a 20 touch bell cow.

DL - Fowler helps but they need a major talent upgrade inside and out. I think they still need 2 starting quality players to play DT and DE.

LB - If Overshown is back I am good but if not I still think they need a solid rotational guy.

CBs - With or without Diggs this needs to be a major focus. Do they lock up Bland? This will be a major need next season and you can never have enough good CBs so I think this is a major need.

S - Close one. Major need next season but set for now. I think they need to focus on the other areas of need but if they
picked up another quality S I wouldn’t mind.

Given the state of the roster I think they need to hit on 3/4 picks plus still grab a FA or 2.

What do you guys think?
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The roster is worse than last year. Hoping that you hit on multiple rookies to start and fill in holes in year one isn’t a strategy. We’re cooked.
 
blueblood70 said:
Did I miss something do we really need to discuss what the roster looks like right now 'cause do we have a game Sunday like am I missing something or are we gearing up for a game next week or two weeks or three weeks or five months oh that's right it's five months can we talk about the roster at least when it gets to training camp this is pre draft too soon talk about the roster... I don't think there's many teams out there that are ready for a game if the if it started Sunday not because of not in game shape I don't think their roster is fully made either..
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You could just let others discuss what they’d like and if you’re not interested simply not participate.
 
dacopacabana said:
I feel this team be picking in the top ten next year.

There is not much that can be done to help this team to become a serious contender.
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This. Jerry folded last season, and couldn't fold fast enough this season. I don't know why he just doesn't sell the team. Winning is no longer priority, hasn't been for years. Imagine just at least signing someone significant to line across Parsons. Just doing that would be huge. Nope. Can't do it.
 
Last season the Cowboys roster included ten 1st round, ten 2nd round and ten 3rd round picks

The Eagles roster had twelve 1st round, ten 2nd round and eight third round picks.

Washington had ten 1st round, nine 2nd round and eight 3rd round picks.

The difference hasn't been with the talent level of the teams. The difference is the quality of management and coaching.

The real difference is the Cowboys inability to construct a cohesive team with the proper priorities and focus.

For three decades the Cowboys management has demonstrated that they don't even know where to begin.
 
plasticman said:
Last season the Cowboys roster included ten 1st round, ten 2nd round and ten 3rd round picks

The Eagles roster had twelve 1st round, ten 2nd round and eight third round picks.

Washington had ten 1st round, nine 2nd round and eight 3rd round picks.

The difference hasn't been with the talent level of the teams. The difference is the quality of management and coaching.

The real difference is the Cowboys inability to construct a cohesive team with the proper priorities and focus.

For three decades the Cowboys management has demonstrated that they don't even know where to begin.
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Coaching makes a difference. No doubt about that. Since all three teams you indicated have similar number of draft picks on their roster the difference in talent may be players they did not draft. Or the better team(s) just draft better.
 
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