Which Defense would you rather have??

[SMCowboy]

With everyone complaining about how Mike Zimmer finally came up with a good game plan on D today. I figured I would check see what D you would rather have.

Team A:
YPG: 6
YPP: T9
FD/G: 8
TO's: 3
PPG: T8
QBRat: 5
Sacks: T19

Team B:
YPG: 10
YPP: T12
FD/G: 15
TO's: 18
PPG: 14
QBRat: 17
Sacks: 1

Team C:
YPG: 19
YPP: T17
FD/G: 18
TO's: 28
PPG: 21
QBRat: 24
Sacks: 2

Team D:
YPG: 24
YPP: T17
FD/G: 24
TO's: 26
PPG: 30
QBRat: 26
Sacks: 3

 

[fortdick]

With everyone complaining about how Mike Zimmer finally came up with a good game plan on D today. I figured I would check see what D you would rather have.

Team A:
YPG: 6
YPP: T9
FD/G: 8
TO's: 3
PPG: T8
QBRat: 5
Sacks: T19

Team B:
YPG: 10
YPP: T12
FD/G: 15
TO's: 18
PPG: 14
QBRat: 17
Sacks: 1

Team C:
YPG: 19
YPP: T17
FD/G: 18
TO's: 28
PPG: 21
QBRat: 24
Sacks: 2

Team D:
YPG: 24
YPP: T17
FD/G: 24
TO's: 26
PPG: 30
QBRat: 26
Sacks: 3

okay, I'll play. Team A.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

I'd take C. Thats if im reading this right...

 

[ljs44]

Team A

 

[ZenItRam]

team A

 

[Bryan8284]

Team A

PPG is the #1 defensive stat in my book.

 

[AdamJT13]

I'd take C. Thats if im reading this right...

... you're reading it right if you'd prefer a team that's below-average in everything but sacking the quarterback.

 

[hmcorp]

obviously A. ppg fd per game. everything looks good on their d.

 

[conner01]

thats too much to figure out after a long night. i just want the defense that wins. don't care about stats that much.stats are great but a sack on 3rd down is a much bigger play than a sack on first down.an int in a close game is much bigger than an int in a blow out game.over a full season the stats do tend to show who you are but when you get those big plays is very important

 

[pancakeman]

My brain hurts. Just tell me the right answer!

 

[the kid 05]

Team D:
YPG: 24
YPP: T17
FD/G: 24
TO's: 26
PPG: 30
QBRat: 26
Sacks: 3

they wouldn't get to the QB but they would create turnovers and allow our now stellar OFfense to score like crazy

 

[gbrittain]

Is this a trick question? I will take A.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Yeah I read that wrong lol. I thought team C had 28 forced turnovers. Gimme A for sure, Turnovers is the key stat in my opinion but i will not discredit the other stat categorys.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Let me look at the other teams where they are on pace for 40+ sacks this year, a positive turnover margin, and in the top 8 in points per game.

The only thing that's hurting Dallas from fitting a profile of a team that has gone to the Super Bowl the last 10 seasons is sacks. We're on pace for 34 sacks, but the sacks total needs to improve the last 6 weeks of the season. If we can average 2.8 sacks per game in the last 6 games (which would only put us at 38 sacks this year), then you can call me a believer in this defense and in Zimmer.



YAKUZA

 

[kmd24]

The job of the defense is to prevent points, so you'd probably want the defense that has given up the fewest points. It's a little more complicated than just the raw statistic, though, so you have to do a little investigation to figure out who's actually giving up the points and why.

For example, while Dallas is tied for 8th with Miami in points allowed (188), 25 of those points come from returns (1 kickoff by Rock Cartwright, 1 INT return by Lito Sheppard, and 1 INT return by the Giants) and two safeties. If you take the return TD's and safeties away from the stats, Dallas is actually sixth in defensive points allowed.

Of course, there's really more to it than that. A more ideal statistic would be points allowed per opponent series, but even that statistic would not be perfect. I guess that discussion is beyond the scope of this thread.

Yeah, I'd take team A.

 

[AdamJT13]

Of course, there's really more to it than that. A more ideal statistic would be points allowed per opponent series, but even that statistic would not be perfect. I guess that discussion is beyond the scope of this thread.

There's a stat that rates a defense's points allowed based on its opponent's starting field position for each drive. For example, allowing a field goal when your opponent starts at your 5 is a lot different from allowing a field goal when the opponent starts at its own 5.

Yesterday, for example, an average defense against an average offense would have allowed 14.252 points based on the Colts' starting field position for each drive. (That's low for two reasons -- they had only 10 possessions, and they started nine of those possessions inside their own 33.) Of course, as good as the Colts' offense is at scoring when it must, making them look below-average says how well our defense actually did by holding them to 14 points.

 

[lurkercowboy]

There's a stat that rates a defense's points allowed based on its opponent's starting field position for each drive. For example, allowing a field goal when your opponent starts at your 5 is a lot different from allowing a field goal when the opponent starts at its own 5.

Yesterday, for example, an average defense against an average offense would have allowed 14.252 points based on the Colts' starting field position for each drive. (That's low for two reasons -- they had only 10 possessions, and they started nine of those possessions inside their own 33.) Of course, as good as the Colts' offense is at scoring when it must, making them look below-average says how well our defense actually did by holding them to 14 points.

That is sort of a similar to a stat I read about years ago in the "Hidden Game of Pro Football." Field position was very important. A big point in the book was that football stats are strongly situational.

 

[AdamJT13]

That is sort of a similar to a stat I read about years ago in the "Hidden Game of Pro Football." Field position was very important. A big point in the book was that football stats are strongly situational.

I'm pretty sure they did it as field position being worth X team points. For example, starting at your own 1 was worth more points for the team on defense than the team on offense becuse the team that's on defense is more likely to score because of it (either with a safety, a defensive return for a touchdown or creating good field position for its offense on the next possession).

This one is just the number of points an average offense would score against an average defense from each spot on the field.