Which rookies will likely have impact this year?

Kwyn said:
Bob - the Revel “setback” was debunked yesterday. The “source” commented at the time of the draft and several “content creators” just stirred it up as they chased each other.

There haven’t been any reported issues since he was drafted.

You can check both of the Zone threads posted yesterday for the resolutions
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Good info, didn't know that!!
 
Bobhaze said:
I can’t emphasize enough how big of a long shot most Day 3 picks are. Some perspective…

In the last 5 years not including 2025, meaning 2020-2024, the Cowboys have made 25 Day 3 draft picks, rounds 4-7. Of those 25 players, 12 are still with the team, of which 8 are from 2023 and 2024.

Look at every RB we’ve drafted on Day 3 in the last 10 years:
  • 2016 - 6th round Darius Jackson (never played for us in reg season)
  • 2018 - 7th round Bo Scarborough (never played)
  • 2019 - 7th round Mike Weber (never played a down of NFL football)
  • 2019 - 4th round Tony Pollard (a very good player)
  • 2023 - 6th round Deuce Vaughn (has only played in 14 games in two seasons)
So now we are counting on Jaydon Blue and Phil Mafah this year as Day 3 picks. Maybe they can be something. I think Blue will contribute. Mafah is a long shot.
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This might be true and I'm not doubting your data but there's enough proof that players like Deron Bland and Tony Pollard and some others that were picked later like if we're talking about 4th rounders the guy named Dak Prescott but overall in the league aren't we talking about guys like Brock Purdy Terrell Davis Tom Brady undrafted guys like Tony Romo and who I believe is a Hall of Famer or at least is going to be, Kurt warner..

The reason I'm bringing up undrafted free agents those are lower than seven rounds that's like the old 12th rounders, so if they can make it and some of the low picks can make it that, means any of these guys can make it they might shock you this could be the best draft class we've ever had. Stay tuned!!


There are far too many for me to do the research on, but it does give you enough of a shot whether it's a long shot or not that it could happen and I believe those two running backs are going to be better than advertised that's all I'm saying but the proof will be watching the games and we'll figure it out later...
 
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The Dallas Cowboys best low round draft picks in history


The Dallas Cowboys have a long history of finding impactful players in the later rounds of the NFL Draft
. Here are some of their best low-round draft picks in history, generally considered to be rounds 4-7:
  • Dak Prescott: A 4th-round pick in 2016, Prescott quickly became the team's starting quarterback after Tony Romo's injury. He led the Cowboys to a 13-3 record and earned Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. He is considered the Cowboys' best Day 3 draft pick of the last decade.
  • DaRon Bland: Drafted in the 5th round in 2022, Bland had a breakout season in 2023, breaking the NFL record for pick-sixes and finishing fifth in Defensive Player of the Year voting. He is considered a steal for the Cowboys at his draft position.
  • Jay Ratliff: A 7th-round pick in 2005, Ratliff developed into a disruptive nose tackle and made four straight Pro Bowls. He was a key player for the Cowboys during their defensive success in the late 2000s.
  • Roger Staubach: While selected in the 10th round in 1964, which was considered a low round at the time, Staubach is considered one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. He led the Cowboys to two Super Bowl championships and earned multiple accolades, including being named to the NFL's All-Time Team.
  • Bob Hayes: Drafted in the 7th round in 1964, Hayes was an Olympic gold medalist who revolutionized the game with his speed, forcing defenses to adapt. He still holds the Cowboys' team record for career average yards per catch.
  • Rayfield Wright: A 7th-round pick in 1967, Wright became a Hall of Fame offensive tackle and a key part of the Cowboys' success in the 1970s. He made six straight Pro Bowls and was named to the All-Decade Team for the 1970s.
  • Larry Brown: Drafted in the 12th round in 1991, Brown won three Super Bowls with the Cowboys and earned MVP honors in Super Bowl XXX. He is considered a perfect example of finding a hidden gem in the later rounds.

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Every one of them is going to not bust and make an impact immediately. That’s what makes the Stephen Jones plan so great.

He has figured out that draft picks are cheaper than free agents. Genius. Lucky to have him.

It’s gone well. Stay with it.
 
blueblood70 said:
This might be true and I'm not doubting your data but there's enough proof that players like Deron Bland and Tony Pollard and some others that were picked later like if we're talking about 4th rounders the guy named Dak Prescott but overall in the league aren't we talking about guys like Brock Purdy Terrell Davis Tom Brady undrafted guys like Tony Romo and who I believe is a Hall of Famer or at least is going to be, Kurt warner..

The reason I'm bringing up undrafted free agents those are lower than seven rounds that's like the old 12th rounders, so if they can make it and some of the low picks can make it that, means any of these guys can make it they might shock you this could be the best draft class we've ever had. Stay tuned!!


There are far too many for me to do the research on, but it does give you enough of a shot whether it's a long shot or not that it could happen and I believe those two running backs are going to be better than advertised that's all I'm saying but the proof will be watching the games and we'll figure it out later...
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I posted this earlier and I found this interesting regarding the Cowboys’ Day 3 RBs drafted from 2015-2024…ten years of drafts.
  • 2016 - 6th round Darius Jackson (never played for us in reg season)
  • 2018 - 7th round Bo Scarborough (never played)
  • 2019 - 7th round Mike Weber (never played)
  • 2019 - 4th round Tony Pollard (a very good player)
  • 2023 - 6th round Deuce Vaughn (has only played in 14 games in two seasons)
My point was of the five Day 3 RB draft picks we’ve had, only one has been a major impact player and that was Tony Pollard. That’s a 20% hit rate which is way higher than the rest of the league.

And Blue I understand your point about Purdy, Brady, Terrell Davis, etc. But man those guys are 1%ers. I’m not arguing it cannot happen -maybe we strike gold on a guy like the above stars. I hope we do. But I am saying it’s very unlikely.

We will hit on some player sometime. But if we are seriously trying to build a championship roster, counting on Day 3 guys as anything more than a long shot is bad planning.
 
Bobhaze said:
I posted this earlier and I found this interesting regarding the Cowboys’ Day 3 RBs drafted from 2015-2024…ten years of drafts.
  • 2016 - 6th round Darius Jackson (never played for us in reg season)
  • 2018 - 7th round Bo Scarborough (never played)
  • 2019 - 7th round Mike Weber (never played)
  • 2019 - 4th round Tony Pollard (a very good player)
  • 2023 - 6th round Deuce Vaughn (has only played in 14 games in two seasons)
My point was of the five Day 3 RB draft picks we’ve had, only one has been a major impact player and that was Tony Pollard. That’s a 20% hit rate which is way higher than the rest of the league.

And Blue I understand your point about Purdy, Brady, Terrell Davis, etc. But man those guys are 1%ers. I’m not arguing it cannot happen -maybe we strike gold on a guy like the above stars. I hope we do. But I am saying it’s very unlikely.

We will hit on some player sometime. But if we are seriously trying to build a championship roster, counting on Day 3 guys as anything more than a long shot is bad planning.
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Can’t say I spent much time on this draft (the Jerry effect), but anyone who seemed to be in the know said it was deep at RB, so the later guys may have gone earlier in other drafts.

So yeah history isn’t on their side, but Im actually just happy to have some fresh legs. I also don’t mind the committee approach thing. I’m not at all into using a top pick on an RB, and most definitely not a vet with a ton of miles on them.

They just need to keep churning with mid rounders every couple of years, and keep the OL sound.

Two positions of great worry around here…CB and RB….I’m actually fine with. By the same means I have no idea how they think they are going to have any type of prayer given the gut of that defense, but different topic.
 
Bobhaze said:
I posted this earlier and I found this interesting regarding the Cowboys’ Day 3 RBs drafted from 2015-2024…ten years of drafts.
  • 2016 - 6th round Darius Jackson (never played for us in reg season)
  • 2018 - 7th round Bo Scarborough (never played)
  • 2019 - 7th round Mike Weber (never played)
  • 2019 - 4th round Tony Pollard (a very good player)
  • 2023 - 6th round Deuce Vaughn (has only played in 14 games in two seasons)
My point was of the five Day 3 RB draft picks we’ve had, only one has been a major impact player and that was Tony Pollard. That’s a 20% hit rate which is way higher than the rest of the league.

And Blue I understand your point about Purdy, Brady, Terrell Davis, etc. But man those guys are 1%ers. I’m not arguing it cannot happen -maybe we strike gold on a guy like the above stars. I hope we do. But I am saying it’s very unlikely.

We will hit on some player sometime. But if we are seriously trying to build a championship roster, counting on Day 3 guys as anything more than a long shot is bad planning.
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I read all that already,

but that doesn't mean this crop will not work out ,and I believe if Turpin was not on this team, Vaugn would have found a bigger role, they do the same things, Turpin does it better... therefore the coaches in the GM wasted what he could have done for this team, tony Pollard we already know he was great pick....

You act like we're counting on these guys or just being positive, That's all we got this time of year is hope...BUT if UDFA RICO can do what he did, so can some or both of these RBS and SOONER..

BTW just because it didn't work a few times doesn't mean it won't work this time,

how do we know we don't have Tony Pollard ie blue and let's just use something from way back and maybe Troy Hambrick is kind of like mafah, so now we have mafah in blue kind of like Hambrick/ UDFA (We all know why he didn't get to play he wasn't taking Emmett Smith's job but put up solid numbers when he had the chance..

i'm just using him as an example he had pretty good numbers for a guy that hardly ever saw the field) and Pollard they may not be studs but they could offer some production..​

But I've been saying this since the draft we don't want to use big names to use as comps for these guys I can see a lot of this guy who was a 4th round pick and possibly what Mafah can become..​
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Marion Barber III was selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the fourth round of the 2005 NFL draft. He was the 109th overall pick​
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so, a a CLOSE Comp in pollard and barber Doing the whole thunder and lightning thing... I don't know, I prefer to use what if, on the positive side...​
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So here are my examples a couple undrafted free agents that were really solid a 4th rounder in Barber really solid but none of them were impact players like game changers just because we loved Marion Barber when you look at his production he never did anything spectacular but he was very strong physical guy that made you earn every tackle..​
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I can see that a little a mafah no guarantees but I can see that..​
 
Bobhaze said:
One of the unusual parts of the off-season doldrums - the time between draft and FA, OTAs, mini-camps and training camp is the glut of stories and speculation about the impact of rookies on the upcoming season. Fans typically assume most rookies will be better than they ever will be. That’s just what us fans do.

According to NFL stats in the last 25 years, only about 30% of all drafted players will make an NFL roster more than a year. Obviously rounds 1-3 selections which are Day 1 and Day 2 picks are locks. But Day 3 picks - rounds 4-7 are usually long shots statistically.

With that in mind, looking realistically at the Cowboys 2025 draft, which players will have a major impact this season? Here are our picks:
  • 1st round Tyler Booker, G. He’s a lock as a starter and most likely to be an impact this season. IMPACT THIS YEAR
  • 2nd rd Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE. I see Ezeiruaku as a rotational player who will makes some plays and perhaps show major development as the season goes on. SOME IMPACT THIS YEAR
  • 3rd rd Shavon Revell- CB - coming off a major knee injury and having had some kind of off-season “setback” (whatever that means) makes me think Revell may not play much this year. NO IMPACT THIS YEAR
  • 5th rd Jaydon Blue- RB- Blue is a speedy Swiss Army knife guy who will probably only get 8-12 touches a game but has big play capacity. Not a starter but will have immediate impact. IMPACT LIKELY
  • 6th rd Shemar James, LB- probably will be a ST contributor without much impact. NO IMPACT.
  • 6th rd Ajahni Cornelius T - deep backup swing T, definitely a project. NO IMPACT
  • 7th rd Jay Toia, DT- a big body run stuffer, Toia is a long shot but with the Cowboys needing run defense help could be a rotational player with minimal impact. LONG SHOT IMPACT
  • 7th rd Phil Mafah, RB - Mafah is a long shot because he probably won’t play STs. Probably a practice squad developmental player. NO IMPACT
  • 7th rd Tommy Akingbesote, DT - a very long shot most likely to make the practice squad. NO IMPACT
So of the 9 players drafted, I see Booker, Ezeiruaku and Blue as being the most likely rookies to have a meaningful impact on this team in 2025. The 6th and 7th rounders despite our hopes are all by NFL standards developmental long shots. Revell has big upside but that depends on his knee recovery.

Who are your realistic impact rookies?
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Revel setback is supposedly bunk
 
Hopefully out #1 pick, we really need him to adjust to NFL quickly to help our OL.
 
darthseinfeld said:
Revel setback is supposedly bunk
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I saw that too. Revell suffered his ACL injury on Oct 24, 2024 so even full healthy in his recovery will probably need some time to get ready for this season.

Maybe by Oct or Nov this year he will be impactful.
 
Bobhaze said:
I saw that too. Revell suffered his ACL injury on Oct 24, 2024 so even full healthy in his recovery will probably need some time to get ready for this season.

Maybe by Oct or Nov this year he will be impactful.
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His surgery was on October 15th according to Dr Cooper's letter I posted already. So your date of his injury is off.
 
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