Which would you prefer to spend the money on?

LarryCanadian

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I'm sorry to put another of these out there, but I just read another article about Dallas "winning" the TO "SWEEPSTAKES". Now I agree TO is probably the most talented all around WR in the league, but I honestly feel that having him on your team is much more akin to "Russian Roulette" than winning a sweepstakes.

That being said, to me the more interesting question is the opportunity cost of what "groceries" you could buy instead of paying the huge bonus and contract for an aging headcase superstar WR.

I'm guessing you'd need to pay a TO around 6-9 million in signing bonus and 3 Mill a year salary average. Say a cap cost of 5-6 million a year. Maybe less early on, but hurtful later again when he's cut and/or outstays his welcome and you have to eat an accelerated bonus.

Would you rather sign another solid Oline player and a solid Linebacker and possibly even an impact free safety for that money? That's 3 holes to fill versus adding a player to which we are pretty decent right now. For me an improved oline improves our QB, running game, and WR's as we have talent and ability at all those positions already. I'd personally rather add oline talent than TO, but that's me.

In my ideal future, I'd like the Cowboys to draft another young WR for the future. Someone that will be alongside Crayton for a long time. That would be a great mix of the vets Keyshawn and Glenn and 2 young guys in Crayton and a 1st to 3rd round draft pick.

Add a stud Guard or Tackle in free agency. Who cares if we have too much cap tied up in Oline already, we need some talented youth. Draft another young oline as well fairly early. Apparently the next draft has many promising offensive tackles. Worst case you could move Flo to right tackle in a year or two and have a new stud left tackle, and Petiti could continue to develop and back up both positions eventually. We've been asking a lot of Petiti who dropped about 40 pounds just to get into playing shape this year. He needs a year in weight room and conditioning etc. He sure is tough, physically and mentally he just needs to adjust a bit more.

Doesn't really seem like Peterman has stepped up at guard, so while he gets one more year to prove himself likely, we could use a stud guard to replace Allen and Rivera who are getting up there. I really wished we would have signed Wahle from the Packers but I understood Parcells wanting the veteran leadership and reliability from Rivera. Lets go after a free agent stud Oline though.

What does everyone else think. We can talk about signing TO or not all we want, but I haven't seen anyone discuss what it means in terms of not being able to sign other players. We still look great cap wise and I feel that another great offseason adding depth and filling in our now much fewer gaping holes would put us into contender mode for a few years!

Thoughts?

Larry
 

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2 Guards, a RT, a center, a FG kicker would be nice. The problem is with the CAP going up 15 million next year there will probably be less FA available. Oh yeah and while Im dreaming a FS
 

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Fix our Oline and we won't need all these gimme kicks for the win. We would have won the games we lost even with the misses.
 

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How we think: four-fifths of the line needs to go
How Jerry thinks: a healthy Flo will cure all
 

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LarryCanadian said:
I'm sorry to put another of these out there, but I just read another article about Dallas "winning" the TO "SWEEPSTAKES". Now I agree TO is probably the most talented all around WR in the league, but I honestly feel that having him on your team is much more akin to "Russian Roulette" than winning a sweepstakes.

That being said, to me the more interesting question is the opportunity cost of what "groceries" you could buy instead of paying the huge bonus and contract for an aging headcase superstar WR.

I'm guessing you'd need to pay a TO around 6-9 million in signing bonus and 3 Mill a year salary average. Say a cap cost of 5-6 million a year. Maybe less early on, but hurtful later again when he's cut and/or outstays his welcome and you have to eat an accelerated bonus.

Would you rather sign another solid Oline player and a solid Linebacker and possibly even an impact free safety for that money? That's 3 holes to fill versus adding a player to which we are pretty decent right now. For me an improved oline improves our QB, running game, and WR's as we have talent and ability at all those positions already. I'd personally rather add oline talent than TO, but that's me.

In my ideal future, I'd like the Cowboys to draft another young WR for the future. Someone that will be alongside Crayton for a long time. That would be a great mix of the vets Keyshawn and Glenn and 2 young guys in Crayton and a 1st to 3rd round draft pick.

Add a stud Guard or Tackle in free agency. Who cares if we have too much cap tied up in Oline already, we need some talented youth. Draft another young oline as well fairly early. Apparently the next draft has many promising offensive tackles. Worst case you could move Flo to right tackle in a year or two and have a new stud left tackle, and Petiti could continue to develop and back up both positions eventually. We've been asking a lot of Petiti who dropped about 40 pounds just to get into playing shape this year. He needs a year in weight room and conditioning etc. He sure is tough, physically and mentally he just needs to adjust a bit more.

Doesn't really seem like Peterman has stepped up at guard, so while he gets one more year to prove himself likely, we could use a stud guard to replace Allen and Rivera who are getting up there. I really wished we would have signed Wahle from the Packers but I understood Parcells wanting the veteran leadership and reliability from Rivera. Lets go after a free agent stud Oline though.

What does everyone else think. We can talk about signing TO or not all we want, but I haven't seen anyone discuss what it means in terms of not being able to sign other players. We still look great cap wise and I feel that another great offseason adding depth and filling in our now much fewer gaping holes would put us into contender mode for a few years!

Thoughts?

Larry


Here we go again........... :banghead: :banghead:
 

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What are you implying? Banging head against wall?!

It's a relevant question isn't it. What does everyone feel it would be better to spend money on. What would be better value and/or more important, and most importantly what would improve this team the most to make them a Super Bowl contender again.

I feel that far too many people on this board put a couple of cute emoticons in a post and think they have contributed in a significant way. I'm hoping your not one of those.

Perhaps your suggesting that this has been talked about a ton. Well I've seen lots of threads about TO but not about what would we could potentially spend the money on instead.

If I did miss such a post I apologize.

Larry
 

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hendog said:
Fix our Oline and we won't need all these gimme kicks for the win. We would have won the games we lost even with the misses.


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a better oline and this team has one, maybe two losses this year.
 

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I think Keith Davis has done well enough at FS this year. He's shown improvement throughout the year, and he does make alot of plays. In 1992, I get another safety, but with the salary cap being the way it is, I'm not sure we can go out and sign a big name player.

RT and Center are definite positions that have to be adressed. Depending on Stephen Petermans progress, we might have to draft 2 Guards. Allen can probably play another year or two from here on out, and the same can be said about Rivera. Even if Pettiti ends up being the long term starter, might as well get someone else out there in case that whole thing doesn't pan out.

This team isn't a TO away from a Super Bowl. This team is a consistant line away from a Super Bowl. This years team doesn't open up big enough running lanes for the backs, and it has done a decent job protecting Bledsoe. To those of you with Super Bowl asperations, I'm dreaming as well, but I just think this line is too problematic to grind it out in the playoffs. Hope I'm wrong though.
 

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I am hoping the line somehow gets inspired and starts pulling out top notch performances. Of course I have been waiting all season for that and it still hasn't materialized.
I thought by this time, 11 games into the season, the oline would have gelled and started playing well but it's not looking like it will happen.
 

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If we have cap space, I'd
(1) spend our money on FA quality starting center,
(2) Sign a quality FA FG kicker & if one not available find out why some teams so successful in finding them and we do the same),
(3) Sign good FA vet OLB who familiar with 3-4 defense (not talking about Abraham money here) who can beat out Singleton. I'd certainly keep Fujita who just needs become more familiar with 3-4. As for ILBs, satisfied with James w/Shanle as his backup but concerned about Dat but assume Burnett moves inside next year to replace Dat in another year or so (depending on Dat's health/desire to still play for Cowboys in 3-4 scheme. Don't know how good Thornton will be since he on IR.
 

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We need draft picks very badly on teh OL. we need to get rid of al johnson immediately. **** TO. id rather draft someone at least we dont have to worry about the rookie being a complete *******.
 
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