Whitney Mercilus, OLB/DE, Illinois 6-4 265

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With all the debate focused on Ingram/Upshaw I think some are heavily underrating Mercilus. His combination of strength and athleticism is pretty special and it was on display all season long as he led the nation in sacks with 16... and the more impressive stat IMO is that he forced 9 fumbles. He can gain the edge as well as overwhelm and bullrush. He got the better of Ohio St. OT Mike Adams in their matchup, who is a 1st Round prospect in his own right and gave Wisconsin's OL fits.

That fact that he's still raw and putting up the numbers he did this season has me heavily intrigued, in fact it's eerily similar to Aldon SMith and JPP when they were coming out.

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There was an article last year about Vic Koenning talking about he has that want to be great like Ware had and works extremely hard.

Mercilus has the potential to be a great pass rusher. I do like that he has that "relentless" title on most reports.
 
I don't know about Whitney.

Could be a one year wonder. He only had 2 sacks prior to this season.

Really interested if he does have the speed and athletic ability to explode off the snap, get low and turn the corner... Against NFL offensive tackles.
 
MichaelWinicki;4397596 said:
I don't know about Whitney.

Could be a one year wonder. He only had 2 sacks prior to this season.

Really interested if he does have the speed and athletic ability to explode off the snap, get low and turn the corner... Against NFL offensive tackles.

Same concerns were said about Pierre-Paul and Aldon Smith *shrugs*

He's still putting everything together, but the fact that he was as productive as he was this season while still learning is exciting.
 
TheFinisher;4397597 said:
Same concerns were said about Pierre-Paul and Aldon Smith *shrugs*

He's still putting everything together, but the fact that he was as productive as he was this season while still learning is exciting.

Lot's busts in the first round too like Vernon Gholston.
 
TheFinisher;4397597 said:
Same concerns were said about Pierre-Paul and Aldon Smith *shrugs*

He's still putting everything together, but the fact that he was as productive as he was this season while still learning is exciting.

He's not the same situation as Smith. Smith had 11.5 sacks and 19 TFL as a Freshman. In his Soph. season, he had 4.5 sacks, 10 TFL but he sustained a significant injury that year. Smith is kind of opposite from what we have seen out of Mercilus.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4397620 said:
He's not the same situation as Smith. Smith had 11.5 sacks and 19 TFL as a Freshman. In his Soph. season, he had 4.5 sacks, 10 TFL but he sustained a significant injury that year. Smith is kind of opposite from what we have seen out of Mercilus.

Even so, that's still one year of production and it was a concern for some with Smith.
 
MichaelWinicki;4397596 said:
I don't know about Whitney.

Could be a one year wonder. He only had 2 sacks prior to this season.

Really interested if he does have the speed and athletic ability to explode off the snap, get low and turn the corner... Against NFL offensive tackles.

Vela and Bunting had a session on Mercilus recently . Vela stated that Bunting had told him some things " off the record " that was not good concerning Mercilus . Maybe this is the reason that he is not in the discussion with Ingram and Upshaw .
 
Scouting Report from Walterfootball

Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
Raw speed to turn the edge
Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
Strength
Repertoire of moves
Active hands
Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
Always looking to force fumbles
Quick get off
Shedding blocks when pass rushing
Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
Extremely athletic




Weaknesses:
One-year wonder
Lacks complete body of work in college
Quality of tackles he faced

Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57 tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.

Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for part of the game.

Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.

Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the backfield to disrupt running plays.

The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010, Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles for a loss.




Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.

Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up to the 2012 NFL Draft. JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.

NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit

What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.

The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril, they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

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He looks like a very impressive kid.

Upshaw/Ingram/Hightower/Curry/Mercilus

Lot of good pass rushing options in the first couple round. We should probably get our hands on one of these 5 guys if Spencer isn't resigned.

Actually, even if he is resigned we should still take one of these 5 guys.
 
When I saw him play, I saw a lot of sloppy technique. Can that be corrected?

But I gotta say, even with the poor technique, there's a pretty good possibility that he could flourish opposite DeMarcus Ware.

I think his raw athleticism puts him out of our reach at 14, anyway.
 
Primetime42;4397722 said:
When I saw him play, I saw a lot of sloppy technique. Can that be corrected?

But I gotta say, even with the poor technique, there's a pretty good possibility that he could flourish opposite DeMarcus Ware.

I think his raw athleticism puts him out of our reach at 14, anyway.

No way he's gone by 14. I was thinking late first round to mid second.

Just a side note.. the scouting report said he has excellent technique.
 
RoyTheHammer;4397723 said:
No way he's gone by 14. I was thinking late first round to mid second.
You know how teams fall in love with numbers. Right or wrong, I think he'll wow some at the combine.
 
Love his ability to rush the passer but I'm not sure about the rest of his game. How will he hold up against the run? Could he cover in space if asked? He seems like the type of guy who would need to be paired/rotated with another OLB(Spencer). If he were to last all the way to 45 I would jump all over him. That isn't going to happen, and he's just too risky at 14 for me.
 
I'm starting to lean towards targeting pass rusher in 2-3.

Don't have a great feel on anyone that I would love to have at 14 right now(3-4OLB).
 
Dash28;4397739 said:
I'm starting to lean towards targeting pass rusher in 2-3.

Don't have a great feel on anyone that I would love to have at 14 right now(3-4OLB).

I was thinking trade down if DeCastro isn't there at 14. We could pickup Mercilus or Perry/Curry and still get a solid CB like Kirkpatrick possibly or Johnson or Jenkins.
 
Actually, with the amount of talent available in the first 2 rounds, i can't see how trading down wouldn't be a great option for us. 3 picks in the first 45 would look alot better than just two.

Think about coming out of the draft with maybe Mercilus or Ingram, Poe, and Johnson/Kirkpatrick/Gilmore

Throw in some other options like Cordy Glenn, Nick Perry, Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, etc.. plenty of talent available that could start right away and have an impact for us.
 
RoyTheHammer;4397751 said:
Actually, with the amount of talent available in the first 2 rounds, i can't see how trading down wouldn't be a great option for us. 3 picks in the first 45 would look alot better than just two.

Think about coming out of the draft with maybe Mercilus or Ingram, Poe, and Johnson/Kirkpatrick/Gilmore

Throw in some other options like Cordy Glenn, Nick Perry, Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, etc.. plenty of talent available that could start right away and have an impact for us.
I'm thinking along those lines.

The OLB and DB crops look better than what I initially thought they would be.
 
RoyTheHammer;4397751 said:
Actually, with the amount of talent available in the first 2 rounds, i can't see how trading down wouldn't be a great option for us. 3 picks in the first 45 would look alot better than just two.

Think about coming out of the draft with maybe Mercilus or Ingram, Poe, and Johnson/Kirkpatrick/Gilmore
How far would we have to trade down from 14 to add an extra 2nd?

Unless one of the top players slide to us, I would only love DeCastro at 14 right now. A trade may be good if DeCastro is gone.

Still team can fall in love with someone after the combine and FA can shift a lot too.
 
Dash28;4397757 said:
How far would we have to trade down from 14 to add an extra 2nd?

Unless one of the top players slide to us, I would only love DeCastro at 14 right now. A trade may be good if DeCastro is gone.

Still team can fall in love with someone after the combine and FA can shift a lot too.

Not far i wouldn't think. Maybe 20-22.
 

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