Who Can Admit They Are Wrong?

[rcaldw]

who can admit they are wrong? me, that's who!

who put this thing together? me, that's who!

who do i trust? me!

Is this Bill Parcells posting secretly?

 

[DipChit]

I was wrong in assuming we'd still be overly competitive between 96-99 even with new coaches. Not like the Triplets and Deion were all gray beards by that time. And they had proven in 94 and 95 they could win almost in lieu of the coach.

But then again I didnt realize that other teams would think the Harpers, and Jimme Jones, and Darren Smiths, and Russell Marylands and Larry Browns and Mark Stepnoskis and Robert Jones, and Norton Jr's etc were the missing pieces of those teams rosters. Obviously Novacel and Haley packing it in hurt big time too.

Still to go basically .500 over that time with 4 HoF's like that was disappointing. It's understandable as to why we're .500 with Parcells then considering the retreads we're using at many positions.

Although speaking of Parcells I was kinda wrong about him too assuming we'd be farther along than this by now. I'll still never understand using that 1st year to "evauate" the QB position. I thought we all pretty much knew by that point that those 2 would be career clipboard holders at best. If not insurance salesmen. Oh well.

 

[jcblanco22]

I think you have some very good points, I really do. But I do think that Gailey tried to out do himself sometimes with the gadget stuff, and he killed many a drive doing that. But all in all, I won't strong disagree with you. I guess I was wrong about being totally wrong about #2. , now if someone can convince me that Hogeboom was REALLY GOOD I will have never been wrong

Actually, I did forget to mention in my initial post that the "disagree with you somewhat" qualifier I put in there actually referred to the over reliance on gadget plays. I do agree that he tended to outsmart himself from time to time in the playcalling department. I think he actually might have realized this in his go around w/ the Dolphins as OC in '00 and '01, because he seemed to rely a lot less on the trickery during that time period. His strategy at that point seemed to be center around pounding Lamar Smith into the line 30 times a game.

 

[lane]

Is this Bill Parcells posting secretly?

hilarious!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I was wrong to think Paul Hackett was going to revitalize our offense in the late 80's... All I could think was how I marveled at how easily the Niners could score points with their short passing game. But I didn't take into consideration that our offense was getting old and we were becoming more unsettled at QB (you've already read about Hogeboom...). And to top it off it seems Hackett wasn't the personable person either which resulted in a rather short stay. The Cowboys of the late 80's were a very frustrating team, much like now.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Is this Bill Parcells posting secretly?

Nah, that wasn't Parcells... he never used the words "OK" or "laymen".

 

[Chuck 54]

Ok, who is man or woman enough to admit you were wrong? We have all read the chest beating on this board for a long time. If anyone is RIGHT about anything they are more than quick to point it out. Can you be just as forthright about being wrong?

Ok, I'll start.

1. I was wrong to hope in Gary Hogeboom in 1984. Thought it was the right move.

2. I was wrong to think that Chan Gailey was going to bring innovation to the offense. I know some still think of him as an innovater, but from my point of view that turned into a predictable offense, and he had this uncanny ability to kill a drive with some finesse play when we were moving the ball conventionally.

How about you?

Okay, I was wrong to think Quincy Carter could at least be developed into an adequate QB under Parcells due to his mobility and ability to make plays in the face of an OL that (if one remembers Hutch doing an impersonation of Bledsoe) was even worse than the one we have today.

Hey wait a minute...that Carter led team finished 10-6 and in the playoffs...neither Vinnie nor Drew have managed to do better with better RBs and better receivers and TEs....bring back Quincy !!!!!!!

 

[Qwickdraw]

I was wrong that one time when I said, "Someday, even I'll be wrong about something."

 

[Bach]

Gailey, in his defense, was a better NFL HC than Switzer or Campo. The real problem back then was Jerry. The guy totally devasted this franchise by thinking he was an NFL personnel man.
And he also totally undermined Gailey, as well as Switzer and Campo, by catering to the big-name veterans and allowing them to bypass the HC and come directly to him when they wanted special treatment.

The one thing that Jerry ever did, was hire Jimmy and give him control over football matters.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Oh where to start....

1. I thought Dallas was wrong in drafting Irvin, Emmitt and Aikman.
2. I though Jerry Jones would ruin the franchise.
3. I thought Jerry was crazy for hiring a college coach.
4. I too thought Gailey was a good choice. He might have been under different circumstances.

and finally

I thought Cbz just acted like an old grumpy fart but then I realized it's not an act

 

[Bach]

1. I thought Dallas was wrong in drafting Irvin, Emmitt and Aikman.
2. I though Jerry Jones would ruin the franchise.

Well...you got one right.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Well...you got one right.

Yeah those three just never worked out did they?

 

[Bach]

Yeah those three just never worked out did they?

Did you really think we shouldn't have drafted them?

I remember going into the '88 draft, Irvin was the one player I was hoping would fall to us.
In '89 I definitely wanted Aikman over an OL.
1990 was the only surprise. I thought Emmitt would go in the top 10, so I was thinking we might end up with Rodney Hampton. I was pleased, to say the least, when Emmitt started falling and we traded up 4 spots to nab him at #17.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Did you really think we shouldn't have drafted them?

I remember going into the '88 draft, Irvin was the one player I was hoping would fall to us.
In '89 I definitely wanted Aikman over an OL.
1990 was the only surprise. I thought Emmitt would go in the top 10, so I was thinking we might end up with Rodney Hampton. I was pleased, to say the least, when Emmitt started falling and we traded up 4 spots to nab him at #17.

I was overseas from 88 to 91 so I didn't get to see many college games so I really didn't know any college players. All I knew about Irvin was that he blew out his knee his rookie year. Emmitt was a small rb that was comming off a broken foot and Aikman I knew nothing about.

 

[wxcpo]

I was wrong to think it would be Steve Walsh and not Aikman that would be the future of this team. Man am I glad JJ wasn't listening to me.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I was wrong to think it would be Steve Walsh and not Aikman that would be the future of this team. Man am I glad JJ wasn't listening to me.

Luckily the Saints bailed us out on that one

 

[Kangaroo]

Done this before I even posted a crow eating thread

I was wrong we would beat the Texans in the 1st game

I thought Loyd Hill a Texas Tech WR would be a solid nfl player (not great just solid) after watching him in the old SWC days make all these spetucliar catches :bang2:

After watching Shante Carver on the TV and him putting up all those sacks I figured he be a solid de in the league :bang2:


I liked the late round slection of Derrik Lasic as a rb he was a good runner in college thought he be a solid back up :bang2:


There are more but thats enough bad memories

 

[rcaldw]

So far the champion has to be the fellow zoner who was wrong on Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt. Although I would always rather miss in that direction (where they are better than I thought), than the other direction. (where your hopes are dashed)

 

[Asklesko]

I was wrong in Parcells. I thought he'd get 'er done, but he proved me wrong.

 

[scottsp]

Good thread, rc...

1. I was also wrong as hell about Gary Hogeboom in '84. Were he and Donley not absolutely sensational that night in LA? I was pumped. And again, I was flat out wrong. But at least I knew the identity of our starting QB was NOT Phil Pozderac.

2. I totally whiffed on our 1997 season and the fate of one David LaFleur. Who the heck wasn't absolutely sold on the fact we were SB bound after we went into Three Rivers and bounced the Steelers by 30 points? Me, for one. I still recall our next great tight end pancaking Greg Lloyd time after time. Next week, a Sunday nighter in the Desert brought us back to Earth.

3. After watching Chuck McSwain score two late TDs in a preseason opener against the Dolphins, I was certain he was our next great running back. Of course, I was all of 12 years old. Does this one count?

4. "Oh, trust me. Mike Sherrard is so much better than Jerry Rice. Just wait until he's healthy. Freak injuries like that while running on the beach? C'mon." - Scott S. circa 1986 (to my father, who still gets a chuckle about it)

5. I absolutely knew we were playoff bound after watching this team go 3-1 in the 1989 preseason. We looked great and Jimmy Johnson was a genius. Then came the opener in New Orleans. Pretty ugly stuff, to the tune of 28-0.

6. Weeks after proclaiming Jimmy "The Almighty," he went and done something just absolutely stupid. The Cowboys dealt their one and only star, Herschel Walker, to the Minnesota Vikings. Believe me, I was sure this deal was outright highway robbery on the part of Mike Lynn and the Vikings.

7. "Emmitt Smith is a nice runner, though nothing special. Alexander Wright is gonna do big things." I'm counting this as one, since it was after the 1990 Draft. Please?

8. I had no doubt that after watching the Philadelphia Eagles totally ragdoll Troy Aikman and the Cowboys at TS in 1991, that we would not come close to challenging them or the Commanders for at least another three years.

9. The season was over, as far as Super Bowl aspirations go. You don't lose the first two and hope to recover. The 1993 season is kaput! Where the hell is Emmitt? I hate life.

10. No offensive lineman from a place like Sonoma State will stick. What a waste of a second round selection.


...And plenty more where those came from. There are gems aplenty. Those are simply the ones I choose to share. I am wrong, a lot. Not all of us are Nors. What can I say?